Mini 2266: GnG's Upick Mafia [GAME OVER]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Why do you care if it's a "bastardization" or not? What do you mean by this?

I mean I want to know if you got a message from the moderator saying with 0 doubt that LLD is definitely town as in a full mason.

I don't want to lose to some bullshit loyal neighborizer on a godfather crap. I don't want to lose because she pocketed someone in a hood and then janitored them.

I want a clear unequivocal statement that there is mod confirmation that she is a mason and I will adjust my solve to work around that.

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[PookyTheMagicalBear]

LoL

[mastina]

Have I mentioned that I am town today? 'Cause I am.

Could you elaborate on that one for me, Mastina?

Not particularly? The Frozen Angel in the neighborhood is the same as the Frozen Angel you see here. As in, pretty much exactly the same. Not literally-identical-posts, but the posts in the neighborhood are not some form of super secret suddenly makes the slot super town posts. Frozen Angel is town in the neighborhood for the same reasons she is town out here.

Which is just that she's strongly town in like...everything.

Fwiw while Pooky has accurately described what's going on in the hood, the activity we've had is indicative of town!Yume and I think it might be indicative of town!Pooky as well. In Pooky's case I note he has kinda started slow and span up towards where he is currently at. Might be worth me reading some decent Pooky scumgames over the weekend.

Might I introduce you to Don Corelone Finalist and Goodfellas partial winner PookyTheMagicalBear?

@mASTINA
wHEN HAVE i EXACTLY FAKE CLAIMED MASONS BEFORE AS TOWN? yOU APPEAR TO BE INSINUATING i HAVE.

I seem to recall you mentioning very-bad-for-the-town cost-the-town-the-game mason fakeclaims from town in past games? Something about janitoring the fake mason player?

The point I was making though is that you, knowing how bad a mason fakeclaim could fuck over the town, would probably not be making a fake mason claim here, and thus, are probably telling the truth.

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[Lady Lambdadelta]

i AM NOT SURE HOW MUCH i AM ALLOWED TO IMPART WITHOUT BREAKING SITE RULES BUT i CAN CONFIRM THAT THE PERSON WHO MASONIZED ME AND MYSELF WERE BOTH CONFIRMED BY MOD TO EACH OTHER.

aDDITIONALLY, i WAS MASONIZED, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. tHIS WAS NOT MY ACTION.

[Roden]

Oh no...Titus are you scum? You're doing that thing where you defend a suspicious player and try to give them room to breathe for town cred.

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[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't even know if this masonizer person even exists

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[Lady Lambdadelta]

Have I mentioned that I am town today? 'Cause I am.

Could you elaborate on that one for me, Mastina?

Not particularly? The Frozen Angel in the neighborhood is the same as the Frozen Angel you see here. As in, pretty much exactly the same. Not literally-identical-posts, but the posts in the neighborhood are not some form of super secret suddenly makes the slot super town posts. Frozen Angel is town in the neighborhood for the same reasons she is town out here.

Which is just that she's strongly town in like...everything.

Fwiw while Pooky has accurately described what's going on in the hood, the activity we've had is indicative of town!Yume and I think it might be indicative of town!Pooky as well. In Pooky's case I note he has kinda started slow and span up towards where he is currently at. Might be worth me reading some decent Pooky scumgames over the weekend.

Might I introduce you to Don Corelone Finalist and Goodfellas partial winner PookyTheMagicalBear?

@mASTINA
wHEN HAVE i EXACTLY FAKE CLAIMED MASONS BEFORE AS TOWN? yOU APPEAR TO BE INSINUATING i HAVE.

I seem to recall you mentioning very-bad-for-the-town cost-the-town-the-game mason fakeclaims from town in past games? Something about janitoring the fake mason player?

The point I was making though is that you, knowing how bad a mason fakeclaim could fuck over the town, would probably not be making a fake mason claim here, and thus, are probably telling the truth.

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tHAT IS THE GAME pOOKY IS REFERENCING WITH HIS JANITOR COMMENT. i CONVINCED kATSUKI WHO NEIGHBOURIZED ME TO FAKECLAIM MASONS WITH ME THEN SHOT THEM WITH A JANITOR ABILITY AND COASTED TO ENDGAME. i WAS SCUM IN THAT GAME, BUT i NOW UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT.

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[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh no...Titus are you scum? You're doing that thing where you defend a suspicious player and try to give them room to breathe for town cred.

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WhO iS tHe SuPiCiOuS pLaYeR?

[Titus]

i AM NOT SURE HOW MUCH i AM ALLOWED TO IMPART WITHOUT BREAKING SITE RULES BUT i CAN CONFIRM THAT THE PERSON WHO MASONIZED ME AND MYSELF WERE BOTH CONFIRMED BY MOD TO EACH OTHER.

aDDITIONALLY, i WAS MASONIZED, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. tHIS WAS NOT MY ACTION.

Good enough Pooky?

Also, you didn't answer my question.

[Titus]

I still want you to defend your statement. Where and how did I allegedly telegraph masons with LLD? I am not sure if I mentioned LLD prior to her mason claim at all.

you immediately responded to my solve with LLD in it by saying it was "incorrect"

when LLD mason claimed and voted me you expressed 0 suspicion of her and followed along by voting me in a manner that was clearly telegraphed - essentially it looked like she convinced you to go along with it in a hood.

regardless of whether you believe her mason claim, to an uninformed alignment the response is not to sheep without argument or suspicion.

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Of course I did. Unless LLD lives longer, it's objectively the correct play. You've seen Koba do this before and I cannot remember the game. I believe you had no problem there.

[Titus]

Also, you didn't answer my question.

Scratch this but I find your answer bullshit.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i AM NOT SURE HOW MUCH i AM ALLOWED TO IMPART WITHOUT BREAKING SITE RULES BUT i CAN CONFIRM THAT THE PERSON WHO MASONIZED ME AND MYSELF WERE BOTH CONFIRMED BY MOD TO EACH OTHER.

aDDITIONALLY, i WAS MASONIZED, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. tHIS WAS NOT MY ACTION.

Good enough Pooky?

Also, you didn't answer my question.

no cuz it literally doesnt address whether she's actually a mason or just bullshitting to get her/gypyx out of a tight spot

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[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Also, you didn't answer my question.

Scratch this but I find your answer bullshit.

ok do you want to talk about what you think this wrong about it?

i actually dont know which answer of mine you're even addressing at this point

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[Lady Lambdadelta]

i AM NOT SURE HOW MUCH i AM ALLOWED TO IMPART WITHOUT BREAKING SITE RULES BUT i CAN CONFIRM THAT THE PERSON WHO MASONIZED ME AND MYSELF WERE BOTH CONFIRMED BY MOD TO EACH OTHER.

aDDITIONALLY, i WAS MASONIZED, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. tHIS WAS NOT MY ACTION.

Good enough Pooky?

Also, you didn't answer my question.

no cuz it literally doesnt address whether she's actually a mason or just bullshitting to get her/gypyx out of a tight spot

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tHERE IS A 0 PERCENT CHANCE i DO THIS KIND OF GAMBIT TO SAVE gYPYX AS SCUM AND YOU KNOW THAT.

yOU KNOW i AM THE KIND OF PLAYER CONFIDENT ENOUGH TO CARRY A GAME ALONE 1V11 AND THAT i WOULD NEVER RISK MY PLACE JUST TO TRY AND PROTECT gYPYX HERE IF i WERE SCUM. tHAT YOU CONTINUE TO PRESS THIS LINE OF ARGUMENT IS DISINGENUOUS FROM YOUR pOv.

[Titus]

i AM NOT SURE HOW MUCH i AM ALLOWED TO IMPART WITHOUT BREAKING SITE RULES BUT i CAN CONFIRM THAT THE PERSON WHO MASONIZED ME AND MYSELF WERE BOTH CONFIRMED BY MOD TO EACH OTHER.

aDDITIONALLY, i WAS MASONIZED, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. tHIS WAS NOT MY ACTION.

Good enough Pooky?

Also, you didn't answer my question.

no cuz it literally doesnt address whether she's actually a mason or just bullshitting to get her/gypyx out of a tight spot

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Where was "LLD" in a tight spot?

I already said, it's an improper tactic to doubt a mason claim D1. If she doesn't die, sure you can doubt it after a couple days but day 1, no. Second, the gypyx wagon was stalled with an agreement in our hood not to lim there which made his elimination near impossible.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

aLSO FUCK THIS POST RESTRICTION IT MAKES ME NOT WANNA PLAY THIS FUCKING GAME

[Roden]

Oh no...Titus are you scum? You're doing that thing where you defend a suspicious player and try to give them room to breathe for town cred.

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WhO iS tHe SuPiCiOuS pLaYeR?

You.

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[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Where was "LLD" in a tight spot?

I already said, it's an improper tactic to doubt a mason claim D1. If she doesn't die, sure you can doubt it after a couple days but day 1, no. Second, the gypyx wagon was stalled with an agreement in our hood not to lim there which made his elimination near impossible.

ok wtf is your hood even doing then other than wasting our time

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[PookyTheMagicalBear]

LoL

[Titus]

Where was "LLD" in a tight spot?

I already said, it's an improper tactic to doubt a mason claim D1. If she doesn't die, sure you can doubt it after a couple days but day 1, no. Second, the gypyx wagon was stalled with an agreement in our hood not to lim there which made his elimination near impossible.

ok wtf is your hood even doing then other than wasting our time

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We discussed the claim and there's strategic value in keeping Gypyx alive. You can see evidence we discussed that around Enchant's vote. If our hood is all town, it sounds like scum would be ticked at a miselimination.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

tHERE IS A 0 PERCENT CHANCE i DO THIS KIND OF GAMBIT TO SAVE gYPYX AS SCUM AND YOU KNOW THAT.

yOU KNOW i AM THE KIND OF PLAYER CONFIDENT ENOUGH TO CARRY A GAME ALONE 1V11 AND THAT i WOULD NEVER RISK MY PLACE JUST TO TRY AND PROTECT gYPYX HERE IF i WERE SCUM. tHAT YOU CONTINUE TO PRESS THIS LINE OF ARGUMENT IS DISINGENUOUS FROM YOUR pOv.

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if gypyx/you are both mafia and I get gypyx today, I will just come for you tomm and try to elim you tomorrow.

it's obviously much easier for you to fight me pre-gypyx scum flip than after gypyx scum flip which explains why you were ok sitting there doing nothing before I said I susp'd you for not wanting to flip gypyx even tho he looks exactly the same as frozen scum!gypyx did in TeNeT.

btw what even is your read on Gypyx?

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[Titus]

Supposing LLD town, who is scum Pooky? Same to you Roden?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

We discussed the claim and there's strategic value in keeping Gypyx alive. You can see evidence we discussed that around Enchant's vote. If our hood is all town, it sounds like scum would be ticked at a miselimination.

yea im sure scum gypyx cant come up with a fake claim that people will want to keep alive great reasoning titus

gold star

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[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh no...Titus are you scum? You're doing that thing where you defend a suspicious player and try to give them room to breathe for town cred.

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WhO iS tHe SuPiCiOuS pLaYeR?

You.

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wHAT IS SUSPICIOUS ABOUT ME, PRECISELY?

i WANT your WORDS HERE. yOU APPEAR TO SUSPECT ME, SINCE YOU MADE THIS ARGUMENT WRT tITUS.

wHAT ABOUT MY POSTS AND BEHAVIOUR MAKES ME SUSPICIOUS... AND WHAT ABOUT MY LITERAL CONFIRMED TOWN STATUS ARE YOU MISSING?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Supposing LLD town, who is scum Pooky? Same to you Roden?

Gypyx - Reinhardt - Mastina


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