KTaNE [game over!]

[Titus]

I don't remember you ever not trying D1 titus

You don't know me very well then.

[Cephrir]

Oh yeah by the way; I'm asking you to use your imagination to assume your current read flips scum and work with the gamestate from there to deduce another one, not just work with the surface level information we already have.

We have different definitions of information.

I don't really have scumreads so this is a bit impossible to answer.

You just said you scumread the person you're voting.

One isn't enough to answer your question tho

[Frogsterking]

I know it sounds crazy! But I feel like avis can have an unconscious bias influence on how snippy people think you're being. People legit call me scummy all the time in games as town, and I think part of it is my avatar.

This is enormous cog dis by the way.

"People legit call me scummy all the time in games as town..."

I've seen VP make comments like this in a completed game as town I think, he said it very differently like "i think people scum read me more often because of my avatar." That's it.

Uhh I'm still looking but I may have hallucinated this. I'm still looking for the post I remembered but until I can link it consider this a false alarm.

[Frogsterking]

Oh yeah by the way; I'm asking you to use your imagination to assume your current read flips scum and work with the gamestate from there to deduce another one, not just work with the surface level information we already have.

We have different definitions of information.

I don't really have scumreads so this is a bit impossible to answer.

You just said you scumread the person you're voting.

One isn't enough to answer your question tho

Add your pick of mala or vp then.

[Andante]

If I hardclaim mafia, will people stop voting me to be bomb expert with people I don't wanna be bomb expert with? If I'm not with pooky/catboi I'm not talking in that hood

[Malakittens]

If I hardclaim mafia, will people stop voting me to be bomb expert with people I don't wanna be bomb expert with? If I'm not with pooky/catboi I'm not talking in that hood

LOL

why wont you talk to me </3

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I feel bad that I scum read baltar for their effort post.
The reason I am compelled to scum read it, is because their reads, read like characterizations first and sorting people second.

I'm always judging

Why is this your response to someone scumreading you for your readslist?

[Andante]

If I hardclaim mafia, will people stop voting me to be bomb expert with people I don't wanna be bomb expert with? If I'm not with pooky/catboi I'm not talking in that hood

LOL

why wont you talk to me </3

I'm sorry!! I'm just not really sold you're town, and before this morning I was convinced Greeting maf, so I'm over here like "IM WITH 3 PEOPLE I DON'T TR" like.. that never ends well... something will happen then it'll like all be my fault, and I really don't wanna deal with that... so like, I don't wanna be bomb expert...

[Andante]

IM MAFIA!!! GONNA NEED PEOPLE TO UNVOTE ME FOR BOMB EXPERT. k thanks

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Cat Scratch Fever -

I REALLY don't like her trying to draft off GL onto me for some wild ass reasons like "I don't remember you".

Open my ISO if you don't remember me. Her saying she is fine with fire or VP also seems opportunistic. Need to read if she is having serious conversations with fire trying to find his alignment, because I didn't don't think she was doing that with me at all.

Me not remembering you is a sign that you haven't made any notable pushes, and you're here in the thread but not making waves. It's not that I haven't read your posts or parts of your ISO.

If you need me to describe it in terms of buzzwords, I guess "active lurking" is the best fit.

Why is this point unbelievable when Cephrir basically said the same thing about you?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Andante we can figure out and organize hood groups closer to the end of the day. I wouldn't read too much into the groups right now.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Mala, how much of the game have you read?

[Andante]

Andante we can figure out and organize hood groups closer to the end of the day. I wouldn't read too much into the groups right now.

are we planning on the full 14 days for day 1??

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Closer to when we decide a lim

Current gamestate has all wagons petering out

[Andante]

also, earlier I was laughing at the "consensus townreads" like... there's nothing consensus about them... lol like they were all my SRs, so mehhh if we wanna TR my SRs, have fun, just don't make me be a bomb expert with 3 SRs thanks

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I don't think anyone has opposed you/pooky/catboi/??? hood, so idk why this is happening rn

[VP Baltar]

I feel bad that I scum read baltar for their effort post.
The reason I am compelled to scum read it, is because their reads, read like characterizations first and sorting people second.

I'm always judging

Why is this your response to someone scumreading you for your readslist?

Because I think it is funny

[Andante]

I don't think anyone has opposed you/pooky/catboi/??? hood, so idk why this is happening rn

well last time I saw a VC, me catboi and pooky were no where near each other

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I feel bad that I scum read baltar for their effort post.
The reason I am compelled to scum read it, is because their reads, read like characterizations first and sorting people second.

I'm always judging

Why is this your response to someone scumreading you for your readslist?

Because I think it is funny

do you think it's a fair assessment of your post? like does it affect your read of Bell?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

"you can't townread cephrir for being the only one to think about this because i did too. but i didn't really since it was a half baked idea"

plz tell me what is wrong with my characterization or what the town motivation is

Lol, Greeting can certainly townread you for it. Just wasn't your idea. Credit where it's due.

Maybe you came to the conclusion independently, idk. Just saying you definitely weren't the first person to bring it up. I think greeting is more town than you, so I'd prefer they have all the information when making their decision on reads. That's my motivation.

This is a perspective slip because of what's unsaid here.

from VPB!town's POV - he should be townreading cephrir for having the same thought process as he does - unless he wants to claim that Cephrir is just plagiarizing him 800 posts later or w/e but that's clearly not his intent as he didn't even state things in the way Cephrir did.

Instead he seems peeved that Cephrir is getting town-read for a post that he already made - the goal isn't actually because he thinks Cephrir is scum - he just wants his own town cred for "saying something similar" which is kind of ????

Like this game isn't about seeing who can score the most town!points for statements about game state - this game is about sorting between bad guys and good guys. VP's entire conversation with Cephrir isn't about sorting Cephrir - it's about saying oh it's unfair Ceph is getting credit for something that I already said sort of kind of - which is not a town mindset.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm gonna check something cuz I pretty much never remember VPB!town making a readlist on day one.

do you have an example of a completed town game I can check this against dude?

[Cephrir]

Oh yeah by the way; I'm asking you to use your imagination to assume your current read flips scum and work with the gamestate from there to deduce another one, not just work with the surface level information we already have.

We have different definitions of information.

I don't really have scumreads so this is a bit impossible to answer.

You just said you scumread the person you're voting.

One isn't enough to answer your question tho

Add your pick of mala or vp then.

Mala & I guess theyd be chilling and trying to blend in, if not successfully atm

[Cephrir]

If I hardclaim mafia, will people stop voting me to be bomb expert with people I don't wanna be bomb expert with? If I'm not with pooky/catboi I'm not talking in that hood

Patience, my child. All in due time.

[Cephrir]

"you can't townread cephrir for being the only one to think about this because i did too. but i didn't really since it was a half baked idea"

plz tell me what is wrong with my characterization or what the town motivation is

Lol, Greeting can certainly townread you for it. Just wasn't your idea. Credit where it's due.

Maybe you came to the conclusion independently, idk. Just saying you definitely weren't the first person to bring it up. I think greeting is more town than you, so I'd prefer they have all the information when making their decision on reads. That's my motivation.

This is a perspective slip because of what's unsaid here.

from VPB!town's POV - he should be townreading cephrir for having the same thought process as he does - unless he wants to claim that Cephrir is just plagiarizing him 800 posts later or w/e but that's clearly not his intent as he didn't even state things in the way Cephrir did.

Instead he seems peeved that Cephrir is getting town-read for a post that he already made - the goal isn't actually because he thinks Cephrir is scum - he just wants his own town cred for "saying something similar" which is kind of ????

Like this game isn't about seeing who can score the most town!points for statements about game state - this game is about sorting between bad guys and good guys. VP's entire conversation with Cephrir isn't about sorting Cephrir - it's about saying oh it's unfair Ceph is getting credit for something that I already said sort of kind of - which is not a town mindset.

Wow this is a much better way to express my torpedoing thing.

But I posted it first so you get no townpoints!! /s

[Cephrir]

Andante do you wanna pick a 4th? I kinda want to do this purely to see what happens