Mini 2266: GnG's Upick Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Dunnstral]

If my neighborhood will agree to give me 1 XP, I can be the one to upgrade Gypyx role tonight. As long as I'm on the elimination and pass the challenge, which would give me 2 xp to start with. I think that we are going the wrong way with pushing Enchant today.

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[mastina]

2/5

I'm not going to read that and just trust you believe in the meta.

More shit needs to happen so I can plan more evil things.

Just a warning, I may mislead but I will not deliberately say untruths usually.

Muhhahaha.

Back here, have read the thread but am not really able to catch up in responding to the thread tonight so I need to do a prodge yet I promise you I am town.

[Roden]

Honestly I anticipate I will commit two crimes of a similar level to enchant's over the course of this game

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We win if we work together. Too many cooks spoil the broth and give scum a place to hide.

you have not explained any of your plan to us

I'm not going to just nod my head and say yes i trust you when i literally have no clue what you are planning to do

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Pooky that's literally the exact thing you're doing with your own plan. Your only argument was "just fucking trust me" lmao

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[Roden]

Honestly I anticipate I will commit two crimes of a similar level to enchant's over the course of this game

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We win if we work together. Too many cooks spoil the broth and give scum a place to hide.

you have not explained any of your plan to us

I'm not going to just nod my head and say yes i trust you when i literally have no clue what you are planning to do

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Unless the people in Gypy's hood start telling us what exactly Gypy did that earned them a town read and a free max level skill tree, I see no reason not to elim them.

[Roden]

I have no idea why that got quoted again

[Enchant]

LoL

[Enchant]

@Mod

You need to retry challenge instantly you noticed it failed, or you could wait for a bit?

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[Dunnstral]

--Must retry before what would have been their next challenge post

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[Titus]

@Mod

You need to retry challenge instantly you noticed it failed, or you could wait for a bit?

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Honestly I anticipate I will commit two crimes of a similar level to enchant's over the course of this game

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We win if we work together. Too many cooks spoil the broth and give scum a place to hide.

you have not explained any of your plan to us

I'm not going to just nod my head and say yes i trust you when i literally have no clue what you are planning to do

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Unless the people in Gypy's hood start telling us what exactly Gypy did that earned them a town read and a free max level skill tree, I see no reason not to elim them.

Gave us a gameplan to get anywhere from three to five conftown.

[Enchant]

Disgusting.

So anyway, who want 0.50?

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[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Yume

Decided I'd rather push this than Shiro today

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[Frozen Angel]

Was ISOing enchant and a bunch of others

We discussing how mages are better than snakes thiefs and brute warriors.

And also mechtalking, we have good ideas to implement.


ACCEPT MAGE SUPREMACY.

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I thinked about bulletproofs and what i say.

Firstly: It's obvious ACTIVE ability. It means, you need to activate it at one night to become bulletproof for exact night. I don't think mod will even allows everyone to get "One-Shot Imunnity".
Second: If Mod really allows everyone to get "One-Shot Immunity", then consider that we are in fantasy setting. How the fuck bulletproof protect from knife, sword, crossbow bolt and... Well you get idea.
Third: Everyone can buy from any three. But supreme tree is Mage one.

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You realize when there is a miller, there is a cop, so you being actively pushing toward mage tree is actually anti town? Sneak tree also adds ninja to people, its not like you can choose when you become miller or ninja so Its almost obvious to me that bullet proof is like that as well.

1 shot passive miller means you're a miller till you're checked or that is how I perceived it just like how I assumed a 1 shot bullet proof means immunity against 1 kill unless strongmaned.

so why no one asks for clarifications?

@MOD How does these 1 shot skills work?

Regardless of this answer unless if you need to go on other trees, going for anything that can mess up an investigation is directly anti town. advertising it in thread like this is even worse

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[Enchant]

I buy another chance to perform challenge for 0.25XP

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Also mod I didn't know that I had to mention retry in bold again, but I failed the challenge once as I completely forgot it existed before so I was by default retrying. Nothing was written anywhere we have to announce again so I hope it still counts.

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-You may give up 0.25 XP to retry the challenge if either you fail to bold tag the first post or fail the challenge outright.

A player can use bold tags to retry a challenge.

If I find a failed challenge, I will ask the player if they want to spend the XP or not(if not already requested by the player). Reason being I cannot automate a voluntary process.

To answer a potential future question: How many posts may I make before being ineligible to retry the challenge? You must inform me that you'd like to retry the challenge using bold tags before what would have been your next challenge post.

Using today's challenge for clarity. A challenge post failed. posts 1-4 may be anything. Post 5 must state intent to retry the challenge or you will no longer be eligible. The post asking for a retry will count towards your post total just as the first one did so there's no confusion.

The above retries follow these conditions and are allowed.

Spoiler: Addendum to Challenge Rules Section

--A retry must be stated using bold tags in the thread.
--Must retry before what would have been their next challenge post
--A retry bold tag counts the same as "I will participate"

Spoiler: Updated Challenge Rules Section

Challenges

-Challenges will take place during the entire Day phase.
-Challenges are completely voluntary.
-Challenges grant

1 XP

.
-Your first post of each day must state if you'd like to participate using the bold tag.
-Each challenge will be posted in the Day opening post and will be linked on the front page.
-You may give up

0.25 XP

to retry the challenge if either you fail to bold tag the first post or fail the challenge outright.
-A retry will only count if the user makes 5 posts within 48 hours.

--A retry must be stated using bold tags in the thread.
--Must retry before what would have been their next challenge post
--A retry bold tag counts the same as "I will participate"

-Challenges are not in effect while chatting in a neighborhood!
-Post Restrictions are not enforced during challenge posts.

Mod will not answer. I already asked. It's not public information and revealed to people who buy.

Going for Mage tree is not antitown.
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[Enchant]

Yeah, i fucked up

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[Enchant]

LoL

[Dunnstral]

I aM pReTtY sUrE tHaT tHe NiNjA wOuLd Be An AcTiVaTeD aBiLiTy ThOuGh

OtHeRwIsE hOw WoUlD iT wOrK?

[Enchant]

My quess:

Bulletproof active
Ninja Active
Miller Passive (before any check)
Bodyguard Active
Rolestop Active, not on self
Doctor Active, not on self
Engineer Active, not on self

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[Frozen Angel]

My mind

LLD fakeclaiming just to kill Pooky. Real masons mostly care to not reveal self, because main advantage of having Masonry is ability to quickhammer everyone outside.
If you are fakeclaiming as town, then first it's not helping, second, if you need fakeclaiming to convince, then you are poor player overall and why even i need to listen to you?

If you are scum, well. Nice try.

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Why would two scum claim maosnized in day 1? That puts hard POE on them. the moment one dies another gets obvious too. Why would you do that if you're scum?

Worst case they are just neighbors claiming mason cause of a strong bound. No town mindset can actually reach this conclusion that a mason claim is probably coming from scum this early in day 1. Thats not solving. that's throwing shade.

Then there is this:

Enchant, can we take a step back here and discuss what is actually griping you at the moment rather than calling people useless?

What is your precise issue

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Alright so.
I have day ability to grant 0.50XP.

Titus asked to give XP to her, because she lazy to perform challenge. I agreed.
After she asked me to stop "blackmailing" Gypix in giving XP, which i planned to waste on engineer with Shiro help. On my question "Why" i received "Not ProTown Bah, how Gypix will be upgraded if he gives XP?"

I am not understanding if this is briliant stupidity, but Gypix NEED to give XP to get upgraded at first place. And if he doesh't give XP, then he sits uselessly with XP. That's all. I even suggested plan which consist on both Gypix and Titus retrying challenge, so we could afford two engineer shots.

"Blah blah it doesh't change anything and stupid".

So now i refusing to give her XP and she mad, trying to pressure me with votes.
It will not work.

Either you both retrying challenge and actually effort, or i giving XP on Shiro. If she perform same stupidity, i give it to Mastina for my amusement.

This whole lot is a bunch of mechanical fluff for me. it seems to me you're trying to blackmail a town read for giving out some exp away with prolonging it.

"yeah I can give it to you dont need to do challenge"
"Yeah lets coordinate it so it goes in a way two people get benefits"

when in reality the whole thing is just so tiny. if it was from a town mind set I would just expect you to give away this to your strongest townread. Its not something for bargain. Its a utility. This act of bargain makes me suspicious of enchant intentions.

This plus their mentioning yume and me the way they did last night, the build up they did is just opportunistic.

VOTE: Enchant

pedit: first action you do is Ninja. why would you want to hide from possible trackers? that's pretty anti town. tracker has no use for a scum in a role madness game. its just a town utility. Ninja here is just blatant anti town utility.

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[Frozen Angel]

How would a ninja active work here?

There is literally no way.

Same with miller

so I'm almost sure bulletproof is passive too.

it just suggests town has Vig, mafia has strong man and all first three utility in these trees are anti town utilities. in some sense.

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[Frozen Angel]

No U

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[Enchant]

I don't understand what exactly you accuse me for.

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[Enchant]

so I'm almost sure bulletproof is passive too.

Dream more.

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[Frozen Angel]

shade-throwing, being opportunistic, typical scummy stuff.

I feel like you have not been solving the game. You used your dsy utility for bargain. and your reads on masons just make no sense from a town mind set. Your mentioning me and yume last night after getting pushed by titus and them mentioning us as the least active slots is the opportunistic part.

Have you actually tried to solve any slots so far in game - maybe in your neighborhood?
cause I cant see much in here between all your posts

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[Frozen Angel]

so I'm almost sure bulletproof is passive too.

Dream more.

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I'm more of a game mod than a player. Symmetry in design is just the key to somewhat balance a role madness. You don't make 2 anti town utility as first skill of 2 trees and then add a protown utility on third.

Thats why I think its symmetric. all three first skills passive, activate automatically on first occasion they are needed making all three anti town as we probably have fire power, tracker cop and mafia has strongman

wild setup guesses.

Not sure why would you want to push for miller in this kind of setup and advertise it however, as by your logic if its active , 1 shot active bullet proof is stronger than 1 shot doctor for town as its guaranteed to hit town.

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[Enchant]

This is my ability, and i choose how i use it. I don't townread Titus nor Gypix (atleast now), there's simple practical reason to let them live.

You acting surprised when more than one player want you dead is strange.

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