KTaNE [game over!]

[Datisi]

vote count 1.14

• with
  19
  votes in play, it takes
  10
  to make a decision.
  
• day 1 ends in
  (expired on 2022-04-06 19:15:00)
  .
  
• 8
  players who have the most nominations at eod1 will be bomb experts on n1.

execution:

fireisredsir [5]:

Bell, Menalque, Malakittens, catboi, Dwlee99

Andresvmb [5]:

Frogsterking, VP Baltar, Cat Scratch Fever, Mistyx, fireisredsir

Mistyx [4]:

Cephrir, GuiltyLion, Titus, Andante

VP Baltar [1]:

PookyTheMagicalBear

Frogsterking [1]:

StrangeMatter

catboi [1]:

Enchant

not voting [2]:

Andresvmb, Greeting

bomb expert nominations:

Andante [13]:

Menalque, Malakittens, fireisredsir, Cephrir, Mistyx, GuiltyLion, VP Baltar, Cat Scratch Fever, StrangeMatter, Bell, Enchant, Titus, Andresvmb

Greeting [12]:

catboi, Cephrir, Mistyx, PookyTheMagicalBear, fireisredsir, GuiltyLion, Bell, VP Baltar, StrangeMatter, Enchant, Dwlee99, Andresvmb

Frogsterking [9]:

Titus, VP Baltar, Malakittens, PookyTheMagicalBear, Mistyx, Greeting, GuiltyLion, Enchant, Andresvmb, Bell

catboi [9]:

VP Baltar, PookyTheMagicalBear, Bell, fireisredsir, Cat Scratch Fever, Andante, Cephrir, Enchant, Andresvmb

PookyTheMagicalBear [7]:

Andante, Cephrir, Cat Scratch Fever, Frogsterking, fireisredsir, Enchant, Greeting

Cat Scratch Fever [6]:

PookyTheMagicalBear, GuiltyLion, Frogsterking, Cephrir, Enchant, Bell

Dwlee99 [5]:

VP Baltar, Titus, Cephrir, Enchant, Andresvmb

Cephrir [4]:

Titus, Enchant, Dwlee99, Andante

Malakittens [4]:

Enchant, Menalque, Frogsterking, PookyTheMagicalBear

StrangeMatter [4]:

Frogsterking, Greeting, Enchant, Andresvmb

Titus [4]:

Malakittens, PookyTheMagicalBear, Enchant, Andresvmb

Mistyx [3]:

Malakittens, Greeting, Enchant

GuiltyLion [3]:

Malakittens, Enchant, Bell

Menalque [3]:

GuiltyLion, Enchant, Bell

fireisredsir [2]:

Enchant, Andresvmb

Bell [2]:

Enchant, Cephrir

VP Baltar [2]:

Enchant, Dwlee99

Enchant [2]:

Dwlee99, Frogsterking

Andresvmb [1]:

Enchant

not nominating [0]:

mod notes:

• Menalque v/la weekends.
  
• the vote counter is acting weird and i'm counting votes by hand, let me know if i make any mistakes.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Nice one Dats

[Frogsterking]

CSF I'm pretty sure fire was lying about writing that beforehand.

He posted it 12 mins after the mod announced he was replacing in tho

Hmm

[Frogsterking]

Catboi is lazy camping on their. Dwlee's vote is pretty meh. Kittens is on there despite not posting. Frogster hasn't even really explained why fire is scum.

It's a dumpster fire of a wagon.

Luke was weird and bailed and fire has been snarky and wifomy it's not a tough call to make.

[Frogsterking]

VP I respect the work you put into 1855 and I'm not going to disagree with your points. I think your argument ultimately provides evidence fire is a smart dude in his first replacement slot trying to make the most of a horrible situation and doing a consistently decent job at it. It doesn't change the fact fire replaced into a scum slot and therefore is a DATS infiltrator we've been assigned to kill.

[VP Baltar]

If you think andres is scum too, you can't lose by joining this wagon frog

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Ugh

I don't know how to feel about fire voting Andres right after his top scumread (Mistyx) votes for Andres

Making a note that pages 70-75 are worth rereading after a flip or two

[fireisredsir]

im willing to consider the possibility that im wrong, and am interested to see who joins this wagon

[fireisredsir]

my MT read is mostly gut anyway, i think there's like actually decent points against andres even tho i don't have much of a gutread on him. i like my gut a lot, so don't tell it i said this, but regretfully it is rarely correct on d1

and actually, misty's vote there right after i called out how I was worried about vp/misty pairing made me feel better about switching, not worse. bc i would think scum would be too self-conscious to do that like immediately after being called out. super bold play if scum there

[Bell]

Lmk when everyone is interested in moving the game forward by killing fire.
Have you read his name.
It tells you his alignment
Sir.

[fireisredsir]

ok but even if you think im maf isn't it more fun to see what counterwagons pop up and who joins them? that's a lot of info!!

[Bell]

By this very argument, taken to its extreme I could never push a wagon through unless the game had precisely 0.0000000001 nanoseconds left on the timer for that day phase.
You know, in case something interesting happens.

[fireisredsir]

i think all arguments are at their best when taken to the extreme

[Bell]

I agree, which is why you should vote yourself to further my win condition.

[Frogsterking]

If you think andres is scum too, you can't lose by joining this wagon frog

What wagon

[Frogsterking]

Don't end the day until you see my scum case on Bell. I don't want him to bury my nightkill under wifom logic either.

[Andresvmb]

I’ll try and continue reading and provide some further thoughts.

Btw, I really do think that my healing shouldn’t be questioned as much as it has been. I thought it made perfect sense. It was also pretty simple to explain.

[Frogsterking]

Now I'm going to make the mistake of correlation = causation and claim that andres showed up two nights in a row BECAUSE of the formation of his wagon.

[Bell]

Don't end the day until you see my scum case on Bell. I don't want him to bury my nightkill under wifom logic either.

*cough*

[Andresvmb]

Now I'm going to make the mistake of correlation = causation and claim that andres showed up two nights in a row BECAUSE of the formation of his wagon.

You’re really bad at the game, and should pay more attention to what I wrote.

[Frogsterking]

Andres I did summarize my issues with your slot, it's the big post with your avatar on the top. I'm going to stay out of your way unless there's anything you'd like to ask ME because I'm not certain on your alignment and I'd like to give you a chance to get into the town end of things.

[Frogsterking]

Now I'm going to make the mistake of correlation = causation and claim that andres showed up two nights in a row BECAUSE of the formation of his wagon.

You’re really bad at the game, and should pay more attention to what I wrote.

I am familiar with what you wrote that's what caused me to second guess myself.

[Andresvmb]

You really should be second guessing yourself since you’re way wrong and it’s becoming annoying. You’re giving cover to other players and are going to drive this game into the dirt.

Anybody who has an issue with me sharing incomplete thoughts based on what I had managed to read in the first 20 pages isn’t being logical. Oh, you’re out of date with more recent arguments and so your perspective is fake is an idiotic argument. I haven’t read the more recent arguments or posts - of course I haven’t considered them when forming the worldview that I shared. How obvious. I’m not here every day, I can’t play nearly as often as most of you, and I have clearly fallen behind in multiple games as both alignments. VPB knows this and is pretending that I should magically know everything that’s happened and have updated my worldview already. This is nonsense.

[Andresvmb]

148 - Interestingly enough, I really don’t like this response from VPB. What does it matter when was the last time you rolled Scum? Like why do you feel self-conscious enough that you decide to actively state when you last rolled Scum? It’s irrelevant to your chances of being Scum in this game. The reflex to answer in this way feels like a bad sign.

Are you actually reading the game though? Frog stated I haven't been scum in awhile, and I pointed out that's not accurate. How the fuck do you walk away from that and say I'm being self-conscious?

How do I not walk away from you responding to the attack that relies on a logical fallacy by providing an appeasing response instead of bashing the logic while saying you’re being self-conscious? And I haven’t read whatever else you’re referencing here so yeah, not sure how I’m supposed to factor that in. I also didn’t think the initial reaction was silly. Since, you know, I had the same reaction.

[Andresvmb]

169 - I like this read from Frogsterking. At this point, I think I judged the slot too early, because I very much vibe with their take on VPB.

This does not look great for andres because he has actually played with me many times and always as town. Citing tone and hiding behind Frogster's read is no good.

Are you saying I have always been Town? Or that you’ve always been Town? The first one is true, the second one isn’t.