Open 848: Chromavalon: A Bouquet of Colors [Game Over]

[Umlaut]

PAGETOP

[furtiveglance]

I will unvote Noraa for now, my scumread could have been to do with playstyle. I am strongly opposed to the Progo vote, and would prefer Titus/Umlaut to Dunnstral if possible. Thoughts?

[furtiveglance]

UNVOTE: Noraa

[Gamma Emerald]

I am strongly opposed to the Progo vote

Why?

would prefer Titus/Umlaut to Dunnstral if possible

Why?

[furtiveglance]

Progo has seemed pretty straightforward and open, I had them as null but I think I'll change it to a townread. Titus has been coasting a bit and and I still don't like 89. As for Umlaut, they omgussed butterflies but have now backed down, and seem fairly passive.

[furtiveglance]

Gamma you say Progo's defence of me felt like it was informed/ulterior motive. I know I'm town, so I know we aren't paired scum

[Gamma Emerald]

The issue I have wrt Progo is the defense seems too avid for a regular townie.

[furtiveglance]

They clearly just pointed out the pun in my entrance. People really read into the weirdest things.

[Gamma Emerald]

Hi everyone, I'll read through, give my thoughts on players, and vote tonight when I get home. As for the strategy talk, I read a previous game of this setup and town actually lost the main game, and the mafia wouldn't have guessed the Merlins correctly. Therefore we might have slightly more wiggle room in terms of Muses influencing the game or even claiming outright than you might expect. The main thing is to ensure we at least win the main game.

This post also flagged to me so I'm supporting the vote.

We have 2 miselimimations, there's no wiggle room there.

Each game is different with different factors - the players being a big variable shift. Me, I can't guess guess crap. I'd have no chance so I would be pushing the primary goal, not the secondary.

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- £!3 ButterFlea

I think you might have misunderstood furtive here. The "wiggle room" they've mentioned is about the Muses potentially giving clues about their identities in order to increase the Town's chance to catch scum. So defending against the primary goal in expense of the secondary, not the other way around.

What about this post?

[Noraa]

Ok I give up. Lol dunn is almost definitely scum based on this game state. Whenever i get nightkilled and flip town, make sure to elim dunn next cuz i haven't been wrong on him in the past four games and I'm not wrong here. If you all want to elim some other random person, chances are it flips town. If it doesn't, congrats. If it does, told ya. Call me whenever you want to eliminate scum. I'll be here until im not but dunn's alignment isn't gonna change lol.

[furtiveglance]

Again, I refer to this setup being 3v8 mountainous unless Muses influence the game. People then ran with the word 'influence' and said I wanted all Muses to claim with their colours. Progo is just speaking sense here

[Noraa]

*they
apologies i hhope i didnt get it wrong earlier too

[Noraa]

FTR Im 100% certain dunn is scum. Like I'm paranoid but im damn certain. I'm willing to be flashwagoned the next day if dunn doesnt flip scum because i am certain it flips scum.
I haven't read dunn wrong in the past 4 games i've had with them even when no one agreed with me. I was right then. I am right now.

[Umlaut]

I will unvote Noraa for now, my scumread could have been to do with playstyle. I am strongly opposed to the Progo vote, and would prefer Titus/Umlaut to Dunnstral if possible. Thoughts?

What is convincing you you're wrong about Noraa here? As of 176 you still disagreed with the townreads there, what's happened in the past page to change your mind?

[Dunnstral]

Lol dunn is almost definitely scum based on this game state.

Go on

[Noraa]

Lol dunn is almost definitely scum based on this game state.

Go on

explain why im scum. you are clearly reading

[furtiveglance]

I will unvote Noraa for now, my scumread could have been to do with playstyle. I am strongly opposed to the Progo vote, and would prefer Titus/Umlaut to Dunnstral if possible. Thoughts?

What is convincing you you're wrong about Noraa here? As of 176 you still disagreed with the townreads there, what's happened in the past page to change your mind?

I have been guilty of misreading people with this more casual playstyle before.

[Umlaut]

Gamma you say Progo's defence of me felt like it was informed/ulterior motive. I know I'm town, so I know we aren't paired scum

Gamma specifically said "Regardless of furtive's alignment" in 112, the post you are referencing. Whatever ulterior motive he's talking about he is not specifically saying the two of you have to be scum together

[furtiveglance]

Gamma you say Progo's defence of me felt like it was informed/ulterior motive. I know I'm town, so I know we aren't paired scum

Gamma specifically said "Regardless of furtive's alignment" in 112, the post you are referencing. Whatever ulterior motive he's talking about he is not specifically saying the two of you have to be scum together

Regardless, I don't get the feeling Progo is defending me for 'towncred', especially when they are literally just pointing out the obvious

[Gamma Emerald]

They problem isn’t what they’re pointing out, it’s how

[Titus]

They problem isn’t what they’re pointing out, it’s how

Go on.

[Dunnstral]

Lol dunn is almost definitely scum based on this game state.

Go on

explain why im scum. you are clearly reading

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[Gamma Emerald]

Hi, sorry for the delay.

I don't know what Noraa is talking about, implosion's logic is sound. Implosion's conclusion isn't "All three muses should claim right now", but "muses should claim if it benefits Town". In most situations, only one muse would have to claim, which isn't too awful.

Hi everyone, I'll read through, give my thoughts on players, and vote tonight when I get home. As for the strategy talk, I read a previous game of this setup and town actually lost the main game, and the mafia wouldn't have guessed the Merlins correctly. Therefore we might have slightly more wiggle room in terms of Muses influencing the game or even claiming outright than you might expect. The main thing is to ensure we at least win the main game.

This post also flagged to me so I'm supporting the vote.

We have 2 miselimimations, there's no wiggle room there.

Each game is different with different factors - the players being a big variable shift. Me, I can't guess guess crap. I'd have no chance so I would be pushing the primary goal, not the secondary.

[...]

- £!3 ButterFlea

I think you might have misunderstood furtive here. The "wiggle room" they've mentioned is about the Muses potentially giving clues about their identities in order to increase the Town's chance to catch scum. So defending against the primary goal in expense of the secondary, not the other way around.

Progo’s posted explanations don’t leave any room for doubt, they are matter of fact “this is what they were saying”
Tho I feel a little off-kilter rn so bear with me

[Dunnstral]

What do you think, Enchant?

[Noraa]

Dunn is scummmmmm~