Please remember this if i die thoIn post 2322, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I think if you're town, frogs, it's more likely that your hood was all town
I'm not going to elaborate on this further at this time
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In post 2325, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
Please remember this if i die thoIn post 2322, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I think if you're town, frogs, it's more likely that your hood was all town
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Like, in the event frogs flips town... EVERYTHING about his play in the hood was anti town, like Greeting had the exact same doubts I did... "why would scum just not solve?" but by frogster doing what he did.. catboi and I were basing all of our reads around frogster!scum world cause, it just doesn't make sense for town to be like frogster was... like, why not go "oh yeah I'm town, now I'll help solve" no.. frogster did 0 solving and was constantly like "lol no rush! still have 2 days to solve the bomb" "lol no rush still have hours!!"In post 2322, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I think if you're town, frogs, it's more likely that your hood was all town
I'm not going to elaborate on this further at this time
it's just like, we HAVE to lim frogster... there is no way anyone lives after that performance- StrangeMatter
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In post 2310, Andante wrote:
umm well first off his very first post in the PT was like, really towny lol (idk what's even allowed to be quoted or what.. cause frogster quoted word for word something I said...)In post 2301, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
What did Andres say? I want to know what original thoughts he had, and why you tr'd himIn post 2291, Andante wrote:see, we were thinking andres got thrown to group 1 like that to be SRed, andres in the hood was pretty good, catboi and I were thinking andres town for sure... like, frogster was just annoying the whole time... Greeting had the time zone difference so wasn't there too much, but was there enough and actively tried to solve with catboi
Also I don't understand. If scum wanted Andres to be SR'ed, why wouldn't they make Andres a defuser?
but hood from andres basically started like "yeah catboi is town, lets solve the bomb" and LOTS of words lol uhhhh was against just massclaiming cause he didn't trust all, which I totally understood. Frogs, while calling catboi maf claimed macho cop.. sooo that's whatever. Has he given his macho cop result here? nope. uhhh andres thought I was claiming scum when I claimed, umm overall andres seemed genuine and towny!!
andres was NOT townie andres was extremely suspicious and everyone instantly townread him. NO ONE thought it was a good idea to NOT defuse catboi, that there was any chance catboit was not town, and BARELY brought up the fact that andres was even in the hood was extremely strange.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Paraphrasing.In post 2271, VP Baltar wrote:
thx. Why was he townreading andres?In post 2267, Greeting wrote:
Yes, he was literally grilling me for disbelieving at first.In post 2260, VP Baltar wrote:
did catboi call frog scum too?In post 2252, Greeting wrote:I strongly encourage you to ignore whateverFrogis saying and follow me,Andante,Andresvmbandcatboionto this.
Andantecan confirm this.
Beginning of thread: townlean because of interactions with playerMenalque.
Later: expressed his belief thatAndresvmbwas inserted into our group as a result of mafia machinations, plus it was his belief thatAndresvmbgets angry because cares much to not get wrongly eliminated by town, which in his eyes makes him town.
Late thread:Andresvmbis his second biggest townlean,Andantebeing on top.
This is what I found while looking through the thread.
When the mixup happened it became extremely obvious to the four of us (excludingFrogsterkingwho probably co-arranged this) thatAndresvmbprobably did not have anything to do with the mixup and that it was done by someone else on purpose to confuse us.Andresvmbwas fully cooperative in the thread and willing to work and discuss with us, plus we had little doubt that the things he said came from a town mindset.- Frogsterking
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That's fine, I feel like I said enoughIn post 2330, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:dwlee are you really trying to get townread for a wagon that went nowhere
pedit @Andante: yeah I'm not going to fight his lim because I think people are never going to be able to move on from his play, but I still think he flips town :<Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Yes, and you helped frogs push me in a slimy way so you're also scumIn post 2330, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:dwlee are you really trying to get townread for a wagon that went nowhere
pedit @Andante: yeah I'm not going to fight his lim because I think people are never going to be able to move on from his play, but I still think he flips town :<I prefer they, thanks :)- Frogsterking
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catboi NEVER claimed this in the thread.~ once in the game, at twilight, if you have not been voted in as a bomb expert, you may make yourself be the bomb defuser for the night.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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he had no need? Frogster, what's your macho cop result?In post 2336, Frogsterking wrote:
catboi NEVER claimed this in the thread.~ once in the game, at twilight, if you have not been voted in as a bomb expert, you may make yourself be the bomb defuser for the night.- Greeting
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100% agreed.In post 2327, Andante wrote:
Like, in the event frogs flips town... EVERYTHING about his play in the hood was anti town, like Greeting had the exact same doubts I did... "why would scum just not solve?" but by frogster doing what he did.. catboi and I were basing all of our reads around frogster!scum world cause, it just doesn't make sense for town to be like frogster was... like, why not go "oh yeah I'm town, now I'll help solve" no.. frogster did 0 solving and was constantly like "lol no rush! still have 2 days to solve the bomb" "lol no rush still have hours!!"In post 2322, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I think if you're town, frogs, it's more likely that your hood was all town
I'm not going to elaborate on this further at this time
it's just like, we HAVE to lim frogster... there is no way anyone lives after that performance
Frogsterkingdoes not get to stay in the game after that PT. It is absolutely anti-town to not eliminate him.- Frogsterking
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After I flip town, and you flip 1 of these 3 to confirm if my theory about the setup is real,
Remember:
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scum have abilities that manipulate the hoods at night. Andante has an ability that enables her to switch places with one of the defusers that seems to be on even nights. andres has an ability that does something similar on odd nights.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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in the PT yeahIn post 2340, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:wait frogster claimed macho cop?- Andante
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the same PT he was calling catboi mafIn post 2342, Andante wrote:
in the PT yeahIn post 2340, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:wait frogster claimed macho cop?- Frogsterking
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Yes. After catboi claimed "innocent child daredevil" I thought he was going to flip scum so I claimed macho cop to imply I was a bomb so I didn't get nightkilled.In post 2340, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:wait frogster claimed macho cop?Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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yes, thank you!In post 2273, Andante wrote:
@VP here was catboi's readsIn post 2257, Andante wrote:Ok, Summarizing catboi's for yall here
Townreads, strongest to weakest: Andante, Andres, Greeting, Bell, VP Baltar, Menalque, GuiltyLion, Pooky, Enchant
Null Reads: Titus, Cephrir, CSF, Mistyx
Scum Reads: Frogsterking, dwlee, StrangeMatter, Malakittens
so with that, I'll
HEAL: Enchant
HEAL: GuiltyLionYOUR AD HERE- Frogsterking
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If catboi's role is real then I don't know why he didn't just claim that he was the one who made himself the defuser; I would have believed him then.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Yes just latch onto meta (even when I was scum, there are times where people have incorrectly meta read me and townread off that) and prove Lukewarm right, along with the saying that meta reading me has rarely ever actually been right on me.In post 2329, Andante wrote:And on another note, Strange is in scum meta!! I was looking at meta after SRing posts this game, and the performance here mirrors a past scum game, so Strange is for sure mafia- Cat Scratch Fever
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In post 2344, Frogsterking wrote:
Yes. After catboi claimed "innocent child daredevil" I thought he was going to flip scum so I claimed macho cop toIn post 2340, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:wait frogster claimed macho cop?imply I was a bomb so I didn't get nightkilled.
wait what? how does claiming macho cop prevent you from getting NK'd?
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Because I was scum hunting really aggressively and obviously didn't believe catboi's claim at the time I countered with my own fake claim, so from a scum POV the only reason I would claim to be a macho cop would be if I were a Bomb and wanted to eat an NK.In post 2348, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:In post 2344, Frogsterking wrote:
Yes. After catboi claimed "innocent child daredevil" I thought he was going to flip scum so I claimed macho cop toIn post 2340, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:wait frogster claimed macho cop?imply I was a bomb so I didn't get nightkilled.
wait what? how does claiming macho cop prevent you from getting NK'd?
So it was a fakeclaim?Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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