KTaNE [game over!]

[Datisi]

vote count 2.04

• with
  17
  votes in play, it takes
  9
  to make a decision.
  
• day 2 ends in
  (expired on 2022-04-14 21:30:00)
  .
  
• 3
  players who have the most nominations will be bomb experts on n2.

execution:

Frogsterking [7]:

Greeting, VP Baltar, Cephrir, StrangeMatter, Mistyx, Andante, Enchant

Andresvmb [1]:

Frogsterking

not voting [9]:

GuiltyLion, Dwlee99, Andresvmb, Cat Scratch Fever, Menalque, Titus, Malakittens, Bell, PookyTheMagicalBear

bomb expert nominations:

Bell [10]:

Andante, VP Baltar, Cephrir, Cat Scratch Fever, PookyTheMagicalBear, Mistyx, GuiltyLion, Enchant, Menalque, Andresvmb

VP Baltar [7]:

Cephrir, Cat Scratch Fever, Andante, PookyTheMagicalBear, GuiltyLion, Enchant, Greeting

GuiltyLion [7]:

Andante, PookyTheMagicalBear, Cat Scratch Fever, VP Baltar, Enchant, Menalque, Andresvmb

Enchant [5]:

VP Baltar, Andante, Cat Scratch Fever, GuiltyLion, Greeting

Dwlee99 [3]:

PookyTheMagicalBear, Cephrir, Enchant

Mistyx [1]:

Enchant

Titus [1]:

Enchant

Malakittens [1]:

Enchant

Strangematter [1]:

Enchant

not nominating [6]:

Frogsterking, Dwlee99, Titus, Malakittens, StrangeMatter, Bell

ineligible to be nominated:

Andante, Greeting, Andresvmb, Frogsterking, Menalque, PookyTheMagicalBear, Cat Scratch Fever, Cephrir

mod notes:

• Menalque v/la weekends.
  
• the vote counter is acting weird and i'm counting votes by hand, let me know if i make any mistakes.

[Frogsterking]

If this is multiball then I read Ceph as wolf

[Frogsterking]

I'm LAUGHING so hard at frogster's claim... "all I have to do is live till day 5 to prove myself!!" you had no care about catboi living till D2 to prove himself... so why would you have till d5??

This being pretty much my exact reaction to catboi's claim.

Read my flip and weep

[Andante]

I'm not weeping after your flip lmao

[Cephrir]

Cause being wrong on Fire when sheeping Bell screaming into the void makes me scum

But being right on Frogs on a push

I started and formulated

makes me scum. Fucking hell

We haven't even heard the rationale yet. You're jumping to conclusions

[Frogsterking]

Yes you will be.

Also make sure that dwlee dies, they're over acting right now

[Cephrir]

If this is multiball then I read Ceph as wolf

AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Frogsterking]

If this is multiball then I read Ceph as wolf

AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Andresvmb]

I also noted that I wouldn’t have needed to claim to get me through yesterday, and then make myself a target by swapping myself into the PT. As a strategic decision, attracting heat when I had weathered the storm yesterday and gotten a claim out (if I were Scum) didn’t seem sensible, but you all have to judge that.

Could've just been giving up and taking down catboi before frog's sick plays made you not need to.

Idk if I buy your role and fire's together given scum already have like 3/4 of a nightkill.

The Scum could have withheld using their Night Kill. That certainly would explain why there wasn’t one. I wouldn’t be totally surprised if they did - there’s no reason for them to necessarily use it N1, and they could have saved it for tonight. Having said that, NKs for Scum are clearly a scarce resource, so my modifier clearly makes it very difficult with all the claims that have been thrown around for me to actually save a player. Which kind of sucks to be honest. But you really have no real reason to argue that my role is impossible next to a 1-shot Bodyguard. Like I don’t get why that’s super hard to believe.

[Frogsterking]

Cause being wrong on Fire when sheeping Bell screaming into the void makes me scum

But being right on Frogs on a push

I started and formulated

makes me scum. Fucking hell

Also make sure that dwlee dies, they're over acting right now

Get this guy outta here after my flip, he's tipping his hand, he knows what I'm about to flip.

[Frogsterking]

VOTE: Dwlee

Scum

[Andresvmb]

And you’re continuing to argue that I’m aligned with Frog. And I have to tell you - it is the worst conclusion I have ever seen.

*gestures broadly at Frogster's iso

It hurts man.

I’m not though what. I pointed specifically to the bad faith post they made against me. And really, all you have to do is go look. Like you can just search their ISO for their arguments against my slot and easily find them.

[Cephrir]

I also noted that I wouldn’t have needed to claim to get me through yesterday, and then make myself a target by swapping myself into the PT. As a strategic decision, attracting heat when I had weathered the storm yesterday and gotten a claim out (if I were Scum) didn’t seem sensible, but you all have to judge that.

Could've just been giving up and taking down catboi before frog's sick plays made you not need to.

Idk if I buy your role and fire's together given scum already have like 3/4 of a nightkill.

The Scum could have withheld using their Night Kill. That certainly would explain why there wasn’t one. I wouldn’t be totally surprised if they did - there’s no reason for them to necessarily use it N1, and they could have saved it for tonight. Having said that, NKs for Scum are clearly a scarce resource, so my modifier clearly makes it very difficult with all the claims that have been thrown around for me to actually save a player. Which kind of sucks to be honest. But you really have no real reason to argue that my role is impossible next to a 1-shot Bodyguard. Like I don’t get why that’s super hard to believe.

It wasnt a 1 shot bodyguard.

But yeah it's not impossible just surprising that this game might have 2 protective roles

I guess the fewer VTs there are for you to save the more reasonable it is

[Andresvmb]

I also noted that I wouldn’t have needed to claim to get me through yesterday, and then make myself a target by swapping myself into the PT. As a strategic decision, attracting heat when I had weathered the storm yesterday and gotten a claim out (if I were Scum) didn’t seem sensible, but you all have to judge that.

Could've just been giving up and taking down catboi before frog's sick plays made you not need to.

Idk if I buy your role and fire's together given scum already have like 3/4 of a nightkill.

Just no haha if Frog flips Scum, I never have to “just give up”. Like that’s not an intelligent play. You’re arguing I saw that my Scum buddy Frog was voted in as Expert, but then I absolutely had to swap myself in instead of catboi so that they could get nominated and exploded. But unless you’re arguing that I have a role that specifically forces me to swap myself with someone else, I never do that. We could have simply exploded a different Town player (someone perhaps not as obviously Town as catboi), and then not just out a member of the Team by having them act like a complete idiot by ignoring an IC claim and blowing that player up.

Like I never have to be swapped in there as Scum, if Frog is Scum, unless I have a desperate need to blow catboi up and why?! They were defending me! It just doesn’t make sense.

[Andresvmb]

fireisredsir has been executed day 1. they were a

DATS Inc. 1-shot bulletproof bodyguard

.

Spoiler:

welcome,

fireisredsir

! you are a

DATS Inc. 1-shot bulletproof bodyguard

, a part of this game's uninformed majority.

role abilities:

~ each night, you may target a player. assuming no interference with your action, that player will be protected from one kill that night and you will be killed in their place. additionally, you are protected against the first kill that is supposed to kill you, including kills redirected to you. both of these abilities do

not

protect against bomb explosions.

win conditions:

~ you win when all GB Inc. infiltrators are dead and at least one DATS Inc. employee is alive.
~ alternatively, you win when DATS Inc. employees act as successful bomb defusers 8 times.

the game thread is here. please confirm your role by replying to this pm with your role name.

bomb experts are:

• Andante, Greeting, catboi, and Frogsterking [group 1]
  
• Menalque, PookyTheMagicalBear, Cat Scratch Fever, and Cephrir [group 2]

twilight 1 starts now and ends in

(expired on 2022-03-29 20:30:00)

.

as they haven't posted in the last 24 hours, Dwlee99 has to respond to the twilightstart pm.

Uhm, yeah they were a 1-Shot Bodyguard. They were also Bulletproof.

[Cephrir]

Read the role pm

[Enchant]

They were 1-Shot Bulletproof.

Bodyguard was infinity.

[Frogsterking]

Get this person outta here after my flip, they're tipping their hand, they know what I'm about to flip.

Fixed.

My bad, Dwlee, sorry.

[Cephrir]

I also noted that I wouldn’t have needed to claim to get me through yesterday, and then make myself a target by swapping myself into the PT. As a strategic decision, attracting heat when I had weathered the storm yesterday and gotten a claim out (if I were Scum) didn’t seem sensible, but you all have to judge that.

Could've just been giving up and taking down catboi before frog's sick plays made you not need to.

Idk if I buy your role and fire's together given scum already have like 3/4 of a nightkill.

Just no haha if Frog flips Scum, I never have to “just give up”. Like that’s not an intelligent play. You’re arguing I saw that my Scum buddy Frog was voted in as Expert, but then I absolutely had to swap myself in instead of catboi so that they could get nominated and exploded. But unless you’re arguing that I have a role that specifically forces me to swap myself with someone else, I never do that. We could have simply exploded a different Town player (someone perhaps not as obviously Town as catboi), and then not just out a member of the Team by having them act like a complete idiot by ignoring an IC claim and blowing that player up.

Like I never have to be swapped in there as Scum, if Frog is Scum, unless I have a desperate need to blow catboi up and why?! They were defending me! It just doesn’t make sense.

I'm not arguing any of this - I think frog is flipping town as I have said multiple times

If he doesn't, that changes things

[Frogsterking]

I'll side with andres here, if I flip scum, andres is 99% cleared from being scum.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: Frogster

E-1

Hammer all yours Andres

[Dwlee99]

Cause being wrong on Fire when sheeping Bell screaming into the void makes me scum

But being right on Frogs on a push

I started and formulated

makes me scum. Fucking hell

We haven't even heard the rationale yet. You're jumping to conclusions

Did you read what Andres posted? It's apparently that my posts with frogs are "theatrical" when it's me burying them and no one listening

[Dwlee99]

Also how tf did enchant go from "dwlee I can't believe you're healing them" to top town without doing anything

[Dwlee99]

There's only four scum in the game but it sure feels like more

[Dwlee99]

Are we good with Bell/VP/GL being the experts? I don't know how VP or GL ended up being widely townread either am I missing something