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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 7:38 am

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+ butterflies (hydra of Nancy Drew 39 & Flea The Magician) - Town until proven otherwise.
+ Enchant - Scum due to hammer. I don't like slots that cut off the day prior to discussion ending.
+ furtiveglance - I struggle with this slot. I don't like their reads, but I like their activity. It could just be a disagreement on reads given I can be proud. I don't like his scumread on me but nullread on Galron when we've essentially been the same activity wise. Could be a chainsaw.
+ Galron - Gun to my head scum.
+ implosion - I don't like their general attitude towards the thread and blaming others for their mistakes. His response, accurate or not, was to out his beliefs on a Merlin. I don't like how he approaches the thread and is a viable partner with Enchant.
+ Noraa - town
+ fireisredsir ProgoWoshua - A new player I've never seen as scum but I don't know their capabilities. I suspect their good as scum. Only moderate improvement on the slot. By their play lean town though.
+ Titus - me
+ Umlaut - Lean scum. Honestly gut and thread dynsmics. Revisit if furtiveglance is scum.
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 7:47 am

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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 7:48 am

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In post 475, Titus wrote:+ butterflies (hydra of Nancy Drew 39 & Flea The Magician) - Town until proven otherwise.
+ Enchant - Scum due to hammer. I don't like slots that cut off the day prior to discussion ending.
+ furtiveglance - I struggle with this slot. I don't like their reads, but I like their activity. It could just be a disagreement on reads given I can be proud. I don't like his scumread on me but nullread on Galron when we've essentially been the same activity wise. Could be a chainsaw.
+ Galron - Gun to my head scum.
+ implosion - I don't like their general attitude towards the thread and blaming others for their mistakes. His response, accurate or not, was to out his beliefs on a Merlin. I don't like how he approaches the thread and is a viable partner with Enchant.
+ Noraa - town
+ fireisredsir ProgoWoshua - A new player I've never seen as scum but I don't know their capabilities. I suspect their good as scum. Only moderate improvement on the slot. By their play lean town though.
+ Titus - me
+ Umlaut - Lean scum. Honestly gut and thread dynsmics. Revisit if furtiveglance is scum.
I don’t actually hate this post.

Fwiw, I was in Penguin Alien’s dance game where Galron was scum and he went out of his way to basically hedge and not make any real reads. His post on Progo made me think he could be town here but idk.

Can you explain how you think enchant and Implosion are s/s?

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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 7:52 am

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Titus could possibly be town? Her last post wasn’t bad. I’m so confused now. The only players on this list who have obvtowned are one dead townie and Noraa. :/

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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 7:59 am

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In post 367, implosion wrote:
In post 335, Enchant wrote:I believed that Noraa is muse and pushes his knowledge, so i tried to pose as Muse as well by hammer.

I didn't really back off, i tried to imitate Muse who trying to hide. I acknowledge that sometimes people troll.

Also no regrets.
i am highly skeptical that this post ever gets posted by town-enchant in any universe. it'd be like if not_mafia posted to explain that he quickhammered because he thought it was +ev. like. in what universe does town-enchant genuinely think that him quickhammering, an action that he does in literally every scenario he can, will convince the scumteam that he's a merlin? And in what universe is he
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confident that noraa is town, and a merlin, and that noraa is specifically a merlin to dunnstral? And above all, in what universe does enchant-town actually feel the need to justify a quickhammer he did beyond "there was a wagon at e-1"?

VOTE: Enchant
This post here, for example, feels over justified. Part of it is just common sense incorrect. While it's plausible people thought Noraa was a Merlin, outing that was not a smart idea. Yet the thought process there, in the absence of anything else, would just be town being anti-town. Implosion feels like he's stretching for a case here.

The comparison to not_mafia is weird. I don't believe Enchant has a history of quickhammering. So why compare?

A policy vote makes some sense however as quickhammers cannot happen as they stop communication, which is town's real power in the setup.
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 8:15 am

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VOTE: enchant

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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 8:20 am

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In post 480, butterflies wrote:VOTE: enchant

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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 8:33 am

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In post 290, numberQ wrote:
Vote Count (1.7)


butterflies
[0]

:right:
[ELIMINATED]
Dunnstral
[6]
Noraa, Titus, butterflies, Gamma Emerald, ProgoWoshua, Enchant
Enchant
[0]

furtiveglance
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Galron
[0]

Gamma Emerald
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implosion
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Noraa
[1]
Dunnstral
ProgoWoshua
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implosion, Umlaut
Titus
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Umlaut
[1]
Galron

With
11
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6
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Not Voting:
furtiveglance
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Why are these colors eluding me? Where is my inspiration?


His Muses were quiet. The Artist set down his brush, and hoped in the morning he would still have the desire to pick it up again.


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I think there’s one scum on Dunn wagon and if fire is town, which I think they could be, it makes it all the more likely enchant isn’t.

Based on this VC alone, if two scum were offwagon: solve could possibly be enchant/Umlaut/furtive because I think everyone on Dunn wagon is probably town except enchant and enchant getting on my case for voting Umlaut reminds me of him jumping on me in Anything uPick for pushing SS.

Why Umlaut > Implosion? Because if Progo/fire is town and currently leaning that way, then it’s highly unlikely both scum were on him and enchant specifically jumped on me for pushing/voting Umlaut, so that makes me think Umlaut > Implosion.

Galron's reversal on Progo/fire slightly townpings me.

So that leaves furtive by default.

So I currently think enchant/Umlaut/furtive.

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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 8:43 am

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Vote Count (2.3)


butterflies
[0]

Enchant
[2]
Umlaut, butterflies
fireisredsir
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furtiveglance
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Galron
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implosion
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Titus
Noraa
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Titus
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Umlaut
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5
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Enchant, fireisredsir, furtiveglance, Galron, implosion, Noraa
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 8:46 am

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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 8:46 am

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Can't blame me for that.
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:01 am

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In post 371, Enchant wrote:My hammer didn't harm town, so there's no regrets. Dunn was probably die anyway regardless.

Atleast i tried.
I really really hated this post. I think town!you would probably be upset that you hammered a townie. I know I would. You also ended the day early as Titus already pointed out, which deprived us of possible info. So if you’re town, you should have regrets.

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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:02 am

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In post 484, Enchant wrote:Muses making poor job.
In post 485, Enchant wrote:Can't blame me for that.
???

What does this mean?

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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:04 am

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In post 384, Noraa wrote:that was so towny i dont eeven know how to explain how i feel @_@
i dont know ... i tend to TR scum but to this extent ... yikes i really dont know
You do, and its a really really bad habit you have nornor.

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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:04 am

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In post 488, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 384, Noraa wrote:that was so towny i dont eeven know how to explain how i feel @_@
i dont know ... i tend to TR scum but to this extent ... yikes i really dont know
You do, and its a really really bad habit you have nornor.

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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:05 am

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ok i like the solving done on the last couple pages. if nora/butterflies/titus are all town, this game is ez

i think 2 or 3 scum are in umlaut/galron/implosion/enchant. if it's 2, which i think is slightly more likely, im really not sure where the 3rd could be. i can see cases for anyone, and would have to re-eval more based on what flips we get.

enchant is prob my least favorite of those 4. id still be willing to vote there, i think, if it comes down to it, but i don't want there to be only 1 wagon today so im going to

VOTE: implosion
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:07 am

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In post 489, butterflies wrote:
In post 488, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 384, Noraa wrote:that was so towny i dont eeven know how to explain how i feel @_@
i dont know ... i tend to TR scum but to this extent ... yikes i really dont know
You do, and its a really really bad habit you have nornor.

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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:19 am

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I did think Noraa was possibly being pocketed by Titus earlier but I now think she’s town. I think both Titus and fire are, so no evidence of anyone pocketing Noraa based off of my reads.

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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:47 am

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In post 490, fireisredsir wrote:ok i like the solving done on the last couple pages. if nora/butterflies/titus are all town, this game is ez

i think 2 or 3 scum are in umlaut/galron/implosion/enchant. if it's 2, which i think is slightly more likely, im really not sure where the 3rd could be. i can see cases for anyone, and would have to re-eval more based on what flips we get.

enchant is prob my least favorite of those 4. id still be willing to vote there, i think, if it comes down to it, but i don't want there to be only 1 wagon today so im going to

VOTE: implosion

Based off of Anything uPick, if enchant is scum, Umlaut is definitely a buddy because he jumped on me for voting/pushing him.

The way that enchant is so chill with his being sr, makes me think he could be a bus, which would make sense if Umlaut is his buddy.

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i don't have the meta read, but i do agree just off how i felt when i saw it that the umlaut vote felt like it could be a bus. i think my two most likely worlds are implosion+galron+someone else (furtive?), and umlaut+enchant+galron. i don't really see galron town in any solve, so id also gladly vote there
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:06 am

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VOTE: Umlaut

I still think enchant is scum and he’s likely being bussed.
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:20 am

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In post 344, Galron wrote:
In post 249, ProgoWoshua wrote:I admit that I have been scummy. Because of that, I find it suspicious how furtive is still on my side after all this time. Definitely feels like they have some ulterior motive.

I'm willing to sheep in the Dunn/Furtive theory.

VOTE: Dunnstral

If this is wrong, you might flashwagon me instead of Noraa, because I doubt my reputation would recover after that.
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In post 345, Galron wrote:Does a scumProgo outright say they've been scummy?
I liked these posts from Galron. It reads slightly townie to me?

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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:46 am

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In post 495, butterflies wrote:VOTE: Umlaut

I still think enchant is scum and he’s likely being bussed.
Why vote Enchant if you think he's scum?
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:55 am

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In post 497, Titus wrote:
In post 495, butterflies wrote:VOTE: Umlaut

I still think enchant is scum and he’s likely being bussed.
Why vote Enchant if you think he's scum?

I think scum is bussing him and scum has a deep wolf set up for endgame. I unvoted enchant because I don’t want a replay of yesterday. My current best guess at deep wolf is furtive.

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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:56 am

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enchant/Umlaut/furtive


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