KTaNE [game over!]

[GuiltyLion]

So I expected the bomb to fail because I wasn't sure why the scumteam would swap misty in as an expert and then not fail the bomb, regardless of misty's alignment. I didn't expect it to be all town experts and a town defuser after the swap.

I submitted correct info so that I would know for sure if one of the other experts didn't, and because I townread Baltar. I didn't think scum would be so brave as to give scum!VP Baltar two defuses, if he flips at any point we would fear-fail almost every other defuse so it's not really a winning strategy to get to the "4 defuse" wincon. And I thought if we happened to fail him and he flipped scum, it would give us three a bunch of towncred that scum wouldn't really want us to have.

I'm honestly a little surprised he didn't blow up. I'd like to hear people's thoughts on why scum would swap misty in yet there was a successful bomb defuse. and if TOWN swapped misty in they absolutely need to claim that today.

[Enchant]

What 4 defuse wincon?

[Enchant]

I just noticed.

Bruh.

[GuiltyLion]

Bell gave me some minor pings in the PT, he was asking a few busywork questions to Baltar about whether he prefers playing town/scum, how often VP Baltar posts as scum, which I thought could be fake solviness. I didn't understand why he was assuming the bomb defuse was likely to succeed, and he was expressing suspicion towards me which I thought might have been positioning to push me today when the bomb blew up. He did have one really townie feeling sentiment about being able to outpost me if I'm scum and I try to push him. But frankly the bomb defusing successfully I feel points to him being town again - I don't see why scum!Bell would swap misty into the hood and yet then give correct info and not sabotage the bomb.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Maybe scum came into the PT with the intention of not defusing but then defused because of the threat

What 4 defuse wincon?

If scum defuse 4 bombs, they win.

[Enchant]

Yeah i just read modpost.

Pretty boring.

VOTE: VP

I am sorry.

[GuiltyLion]

PT people, I'd love to know if you townread misty for any particular reason. I really think that slot is scum.

she wasn't very townie in the PT. took over a day to give info, I said I would treat it as a scumclaim if she didn't before she did. She didn't seem especially interested in interacting with me or Bell, just Baltar.

[Cephrir]

I wonder whether getting a free misty elim would even be worth it to bell or GL since it confirms one of them as scum and misty elim seems pretty achievable anyway.

I suppose we could always outwifom the wifomers and randomly bet the game on VP town. That would be kinda funny.

[Enchant]

I collect everything, but when i get on PC.

[Cephrir]

I suppose we could always outwifom the wifomers and randomly bet the game on VP town. That would be kinda funny.

(If I could be an expert tonight I would have tried to get elected and then suggested this in PT lmao. But I'm ineligible.)

[GuiltyLion]

the only reason I can think of to swap in a town!misty with town!Bell and town!Baltar (and town!GL) is to foster paranoia and secure Baltar/misty miselims... it's a lil WIFOMy, if misty is scum I don't get why she doesn't just blow up Baltar for a free kill. I guess Baltar softed some kind of venge ability but meh I'd probably gamble on that trade if I were scum in her position instead of giving town a defuse

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I have no issues with letting VPB defuse every bomb if these scumfucks keep putting him up to defuse bombs


HEAL: vpb

[Cephrir]

if misty is scum I don't get why she doesn't just blow up Baltar for a free kill

Yeah, I don't either actually.

[Enchant]

Because she will die for it?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why swap herself in in the first place if she's not going to pull the trigger

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

it feels like a setup

[StrangeMatter]

I don't think Misty would be scum that got swapped in here.

[VP Baltar]

I don't think Misty would be scum that got swapped in here.

Why?

Who is eligible for experts today? Basically just the small pool who hasn't yet?

[GuiltyLion]

overall I just don't see what scum gained from the night actions last night at all, unless Baltar is just scum. but if Baltar is scum why swap in misty of all people

[Cephrir]

Between her and Andres it seems obvious they are switching in widely suspected players on purpose but I don't understand what the goal is

[GuiltyLion]

I'm kinda wondering if Bell is town and was responsible for the swap and was pulling some sort of gambit to test me/misty, that almost feels like a more compelling explanation than anything where scum did the swap lol

[StrangeMatter]

I don't think Misty would be scum that got swapped in here.

Why?

Who is eligible for experts today? Basically just the small pool who hasn't yet?

Idk like what Pooky said it just feels like setups, which with no night kills, it definitely seems like they were planning on setting something up.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

overall I just don't see what scum gained from the night actions last night at all, unless Baltar is just scum. but if Baltar is scum why swap in misty of all people

scum don't actually have to gain anything - they could simply be unable to make any decisions that gain them anything because they are too chickenshit to defuse any bombs themselves so they throw up random wifom crap at us and hope we break.

[Enchant]

That's what i could do, lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lol Enchant