KTaNE [game over!]

[Datisi]

vote count 3.02

• with
  16
  votes in play, it takes
  9
  to make a decision.
  
• day 3 ends in
  (expired on 2022-04-18 21:00:00)
  .
  
• 3
  players who have the most nominations will be bomb experts on n3.

execution:

Malakittens [6]:

Dwlee99, Cephrir, VP Baltar, Cat Scratch Fever, PookyTheMagicalBear, GuiltyLion

Dwlee99 [2]:

StrangeMatter, Andante

VP Baltar [1]:

Enchant

not voting [7]:

Mistyx, Greeting, Andresvmb, Menalque, Titus, Malakittens, Bell

bomb expert nominations:

VP Baltar [2]:

PookyTheMagicalBear, GuiltyLion

Dwlee99 [1]:

GuiltyLion

not nominating [14]:

Andante, Mistyx, VP Baltar, Enchant, Dwlee99, Cephrir, Greeting, Andresvmb, Cat Scratch Fever, Menalque, Titus, Malakittens, StrangeMatter, Bell

ineligible to be nominated:

Andante, Greeting, Andresvmb, Menalque, PookyTheMagicalBear, Cat Scratch Fever, Cephrir, Bell, Mistyx, GuiltyLion

mod notes:

• Menalque v/la weekends.
  
• the vote counter is acting weird and i'm counting votes by hand, let me know if i make any mistakes.

[Enchant]

HEAL: Everyone

[Menalque]

hi, this is my busiest day of the week so I will likely not be around

normal service resumes tomorrow

[Menalque]

unless I skip bjj tonight in which case I might post tonight

[Menalque]

my very brief thoughts are that Baltar probably needs to die today, and if scum flip then pooky definitely needs to die

[Menalque]

VOTE: baltar

[Menalque]

oh, and lastly that despite frog's (probable) relative insanity, his flipping town does mean that all of GL/andres/andante should be looked at again, and what frog said about the PT does actually need to be weighed

[VP Baltar]

not gonna lie, town frog doing what he did wasting my effort in that PT, has completely just made me not want to care. Strang maf is the only thing I'm like absolutely certain in right now. and uhh yeah probably won't be here tomorrow

Can you explain a bit more why frog makes you not want to play the game now? I get the frustration, but we also did what we had to do there.

[VP Baltar]

Dwlee I noted has pinged increasingly TMI-ey last I checked)

You have examples of this TMI?

[VP Baltar]

I may SR strange... but that's a read I can agree with (for some different reasoning though)

VOTE: Dwlee

Huh? Why flip here?

[VP Baltar]

VOTE: baltar

Kitty save kitty.

oh, and lastly that despite frog's (probable) relative insanity, his flipping town does mean that all of GL/andres/andante should be looked at again, and what frog said about the PT does actually need to be weighed

While I'm glad you're ready to look at andres again, I doubt froggy has much of value to comb over considering he seemed to have lied about his role and did murder an IC. What is your thought on greeting, btw?

[Enchant]

If we elim VP Baltar, we will know that we either have 2 town disarms or 2 mafia disarms (and get rid of scum btw).

Powerful knowledge.

[Andante]

yeah umm VP having 2 bombs worries me tbh, and going "frog had value!!! must read into it!!" is not something I really want to deal with... frog just trolled around in the PT why are you implying all 3 of me greeting andres lied about what went on??

But I don't think VP is town, and that's why his groups keep successfully disarming bombs

VOTE: VP

[Enchant]

Otherwise, we WILL say "WHAT IF VP IS SCUM AND WE JUST HELPING ANOTHER SCUM GETTING DEFUSES FOR UNEXPECTED WIN".

[VP Baltar]

yeah umm VP having 2 bombs worries me tbh, and going "frog had value!!! must read into it!!" is not something I really want to deal with... frog just trolled around in the PT why are you implying all 3 of me greeting andres lied about what went on??

Uh...this is not what I said at all.

[Andante]

Cause if VP is town, that' makes like all of Pooky/Mistyx/CSF/Ceph town, and that's not something I can believe...

[Bell]

Reading mala’s iso makes me sad.

[Bell]

Stop pushing Baltar and investigate them instead.

[Bell]

Solved issue is solved.
Next issue in the agenda:

[GuiltyLion]

if VP Baltar is scum, why would scum risk Misty or Bell or myself deciding to blow him up last night? Surely that's the worst possible outcome for scum? Misty gets towncred, they lose a member, town knows for sure that scum has had a defuse and extra NK?

I don't think an extra early defuse is necessarily worth that risk in a gamestate where scum haven't lost anybody yet - if Baltar is scum I would have expected a swap with somebody more widely townread rather than misty.

[GuiltyLion]

I wonder why the scums want

VP Baltar

out so much. This has to mean he's town, because if he were scum, they'd have two nightkills by now and they haven't used any of them. Anyway, thanks for a half-confirmed townie.

No. They would actually have three nightkills by now. As they got one by default.

No. They would actually have three nightkills by now. As they got one by default.

Math 0/10

They'd only have two nightkills if they didn't use a single nightkill, one from the start of the game, and the second from the two defuses that happened.

which made me think back to this - isn't Greeting actually right here?

if VP Baltar scum

, scum would have

two

additional NKs, and possibly three total if they didn't use their original one yet.

There's a small part of me that wants to be like "Strange slipped knowledge of VP town!!", but then the more seasoned part of me that knows this probably isn't a bonafide scumslip. but it's worth highlighting I think

[StrangeMatter]

for every two successful bomb defusals performed by a DATS Inc. employee, they gain one nightkill. for every successful bomb defusal performed by a GB Inc. infiltrator, they gain one nightkill.

I didn't notice the second part at all, just assumed two defuses means one nightkill.

[VP Baltar]

yeah umm VP having 2 bombs worries me tbh, and going "frog had value!!! must read into it!!" is not something I really want to deal with... frog just trolled around in the PT why are you implying all 3 of me greeting andres lied about what went on??

Uh...this is not what I said at all.

You going to reply to this andante?

I also find your reads incredibly stagnant. You were on me D1, then you found a reason to get off me with frogster, now you're back on me. I think your strange vote lacks inspiration (and conviction since you voted with her like two seconds later).

I really don't know who you actually think is scum and why you think that.

[StrangeMatter]

About the Dwlee TMI, it was mostly a gut feeling from reading their posts that feels very TMI-like but I can't really point to exactly why knowing the flips. Though I guess its also feeling of something similar to Dwlee!scum just constantly going with the consensus slots (Similar to where he sits there and allows people to just consensus onto wrong slots).

[Dwlee99]

Bullshit ^-^