KTaNE [game over!]

[Dwlee99]

Yep I've been so consensus I pushed deep wolf theory all Day one, BZZZT try again

[Andante]

yeah umm VP having 2 bombs worries me tbh, and going "frog had value!!! must read into it!!" is not something I really want to deal with... frog just trolled around in the PT why are you implying all 3 of me greeting andres lied about what went on??

Uh...this is not what I said at all.

You going to reply to this andante?

I also find your reads incredibly stagnant. You were on me D1, then you found a reason to get off me with frogster, now you're back on me. I think your strange vote lacks inspiration (and conviction since you voted with her like two seconds later).

I really don't know who you actually think is scum and why you think that.

nah

how are my reads stagnant? lmao I had like 10 posts on my strange read in the PT

idk either

[Greeting]

Time to sum up the major events so we know where we're at.

Day 1 - we voted

fireisredsir

out, he was town.
Night 1 - there was no apparent nightkill, one bomb explosion and one bomb defusal.
Day 2 - we voted

Frogsterking

out, he was town.
Night 2 - there was no apparent nightkill, the was one bomb defusal.

GB Inc. infiltrators do not have a factional nightkill every night. they start off with one nightkill. for every two successful bomb defusals performed by a DATS Inc. employee, they gain one nightkill. for every successful bomb defusal performed by a GB Inc. infiltrator, they gain one nightkill.

So they have one nightkill on start.

catboi

's bomb exploded and he was town.

VP Baltar

defused both bombs.

If

VP Baltar

is town, the mafia have two nightkills, including the one they got on start. They had only one nightkill on Night 2, however.
If

VP Baltar

is scum, the mafia have three nightkills, including the one they got on start. They had two nightkills on Night 2, however.

Yet the mafia seem not to be keen on using their nightkills in this game at all. Which obviously benefits town.

This, in my opinion, shows that it's very likely for

VP Baltar

to be town.

HEAL: VP Baltar

[Dwlee99]

Scum can NK 3 people and get 3 explodes on town and 3 town mislims and thy would be barely winning. I don't think scum has to be using their night kills at all yet.

[VP Baltar]

About the Dwlee TMI, it was mostly a gut feeling from reading their posts that feels very TMI-like but I can't really point to exactly why knowing the flips. Though I guess its also feeling of something similar to Dwlee!scum just constantly going with the consensus slots (Similar to where he sits there and allows people to just consensus onto wrong slots).

I would like you to cite actual posts please.

[VP Baltar]

how are my reads stagnant?

They're boring and unchanging based upon new information. If you would like me to cite a dictionary for you, I will.

[Dwlee99]

About the Dwlee TMI, it was mostly a gut feeling from reading their posts that feels very TMI-like but I can't really point to exactly why knowing the flips. Though I guess its also feeling of something similar to Dwlee!scum just constantly going with the consensus slots (Similar to where he sits there and allows people to just consensus onto wrong slots).

I would like you to cite actual posts please.

Before frogster flipped I would have thought this push on me was very scummy but if frogster can make arguments based on nothing and be town then I guess strange can too

[Enchant]

If mafia can waste all NKs on one night, they can simple wait off and then make "BIG BURST" killing everyone fast to majority.

Right now, they simple will remove pool of suspects by that.

[Dwlee99]

They can only use one night kill a night

[Greeting]

@

Datisi

How many nightkills can the mafia perform per night?

[Dwlee99]

@

Datisi

How many nightkills can the mafia perform per night?

They can only use one night kill a night

[Cephrir]

I don't think sliming baltar makes much sense either way. If we decide he has to die, we're sure to get the chance to blow him up, so why waste an elim on it?

I am leaning towards just letting him live forever though. Worst case scenario we get to mulligan this game and go play something else :p

[Datisi]

@

Datisi

How many nightkills can the mafia perform per night?

0 or 1.

[Enchant]

Mafia will not make him defuser again regardless of alignment.

[Greeting]

@

Datisi

How many nightkills can the mafia perform per night?

0 or 1.

This changes things.

They might be going for the four defusals win.

HURT: VP Baltar

[VP Baltar]

Mafia will not make him defuser again regardless of alignment.

Sounds like a challenge mafia.

[Cephrir]

Idea. What if we use heal/hurt votes as a referendum on VP today? If he gets a majority of heals, or perhaps majority+1 or 2 to account for scum votes, we bet the game on him, and if not we blow him up.

HEAL: vp

[StrangeMatter]

About the Dwlee TMI, it was mostly a gut feeling from reading their posts that feels very TMI-like but I can't really point to exactly why knowing the flips. Though I guess its also feeling of something similar to Dwlee!scum just constantly going with the consensus slots (Similar to where he sits there and allows people to just consensus onto wrong slots).

I would like you to cite actual posts please.

Not great at citing posts (or in general) but okay.

#1006
#1404
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13316311
#2810

This part pinged my gut as a little TMI-like with the read on someone I don't feel like has been neither scummy nor really townie, even checking the slot before them doesn't really give me a lot to work with.

[Greeting]

The mafia cannot stock up on nightkills. They've just probably opted for the four bomb defusals wincon.

I am doing a U-turn on this.

VP Baltar

needs to go.

VOTE: VP Baltar

[Cephrir]

Don't kill him with votes.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Oh good, i was starting to worry there wasn't enough resistance to a mala wagon

[Dwlee99]

About the Dwlee TMI, it was mostly a gut feeling from reading their posts that feels very TMI-like but I can't really point to exactly why knowing the flips. Though I guess its also feeling of something similar to Dwlee!scum just constantly going with the consensus slots (Similar to where he sits there and allows people to just consensus onto wrong slots).

I would like you to cite actual posts please.

Not great at citing posts (or in general) but okay.

#1006
#1404
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13316311
#2810

This part pinged my gut as a little TMI-like with the read on someone I don't feel like has been neither scummy nor really townie, even checking the slot before them doesn't really give me a lot to work with.

Where's the TMI unless I'm bussing mala here?

[Enchant]

Don't kill him with votes.

Kill him with what then?

[Dwlee99]

Don't kill him with votes.

Kill him with what then?

If he gets another bomb defusal opportunity

[VP Baltar]

Oh good, i was starting to worry there wasn't enough resistance to a mala wagon

This is my thought. We go from no one buying the scum wifom, to suddenly VP must die now because wifom!