KTaNE [game over!]

[Datisi]

vote count 3.05

• with
  16
  votes in play, it takes
  9
  to make a decision.
  
• day 3 ends in
  (expired on 2022-04-18 21:00:00)
  .
  
• 3
  players who have the most nominations will be bomb experts on n3.

execution:

Malakittens [7]:

Dwlee99, Cephrir, VP Baltar, Cat Scratch Fever, PookyTheMagicalBear, GuiltyLion, Andante

VP Baltar [2]:

Menalque, Greeting

Dwlee99 [2]:

StrangeMatter, Bell

Andresvmb [1]:

Enchant

not voting [4]:

Mistyx, Andresvmb, Titus, Malakittens

bomb expert nominations:

VP Baltar [5]:

PookyTheMagicalBear, GuiltyLion, Enchant, Cephrir, Cat Scratch Fever

Dwlee99 [5]:

GuiltyLion, Enchant, VP Baltar, Cephrir, Cat Scratch Fever

StrangeMatter [3]:

Enchant, Cephrir, VP Baltar

Titus [2]:

Enchant, Bell

Malakittens [1]:

Enchant

not nominating [9]:

Andante, Mistyx, Dwlee99, Greeting, Andresvmb, Menalque, Titus, Malakittens, StrangeMatter

ineligible to be nominated:

Andante, Greeting, Andresvmb, Menalque, PookyTheMagicalBear, Cat Scratch Fever, Cephrir, Bell, Mistyx, GuiltyLion

mod notes:

• Menalque v/la weekends.
  
• the vote counter is acting weird and i'm counting votes by hand, let me know if i make any mistakes.

[Enchant]

Goddamn, enchant, give some reads or something.

On who you want my mind.

Is your mind not already on somebody, because that’s basic scum hunting 101.

I have doubt that Doctor claim yoloclaims unneedly to bait bullet in face.
I have doubt that Doctor exist with infinity Bodyguard, they could just protect each other.


So either Andres hiding something or plainly not Doctor.

[Andresvmb]

Goddamn, enchant, give some reads or something.

On who you want my mind.

Is your mind not already on somebody, because that’s basic scum hunting 101.

I have doubt that Doctor claim yoloclaims unneedly to bait bullet in face.
I have doubt that Doctor exist with infinity Bodyguard, they could just protect each other.


So either Andres hiding something or plainly not Doctor.

I didn’t claim unnecessarily. You do realize that right?

[Bell]

Yes andres, who was a few votes away from being eliminated claimed doctor unprompted.
Good point enchant *thumbs up*

[VP Baltar]

I protected Bell. I trusted catboi’s analysis basically.

Who are your town reads? I find this a weird protect since Bell was main driver on the fire wagon and would have been unlikely to ever be killed.

{Andante, Greeting, Bell} are probably the only solid TRs I have.

And out of that group, you thought Bell was most likely to be shot?

[Enchant]

Yes andres, who was a few votes away from being eliminated claimed doctor unprompted.
Good point enchant *thumbs up*

When i am PR, i don't fear Elims. I can always claim.
I fear nightkills. I can't withdraw claim.


Mafia don't fear nightkills.
But fear elims.

[Andresvmb]

Greeting defended Frog instinctively in the PT and were shamed for it. There’s no world where they’re Scum. They never needed to do that and could have kept feeding the paranoia around Frog. I TR Andante for their contributions and focus on certain players. And I am in fact trusting catboi’s analysis on Bell.

I am being pushed by too many players and my claim doubted too widely for me to have anyone else as solidly Town. For the record.

[VP Baltar]

Yes andres, who was a few votes away from being eliminated claimed doctor unprompted.
Good point enchant *thumbs up*

What did his first wagon get to? I don't remember it being THAT close, but I think I was sleeping at that time and could be misremembering.

[Andresvmb]

I protected Bell. I trusted catboi’s analysis basically.

Who are your town reads? I find this a weird protect since Bell was main driver on the fire wagon and would have been unlikely to ever be killed.

{Andante, Greeting, Bell} are probably the only solid TRs I have.

And out of that group, you thought Bell was most likely to be shot?

It’s the only player that made sense for me to protect out of that group mechanically.

[VP Baltar]

I am being pushed by too many players and my claim doubted too widely for me to have anyone else as solidly Town. For the record.

Do you think you're being unfairly sussed?

[VP Baltar]

It’s the only player that made sense for me to protect out of that group mechanically.

I'm not following what you mean mechanically?

[Greeting]

Greeting are you ever going to address or have you already addressed the “why not just investigate baltar” question?

Like, that post was specifically aimed at you.

Was there a Cop claim in the game?

[Andresvmb]

It’s the only player that made sense for me to protect out of that group mechanically.

I'm not following what you mean mechanically?

I have a modifier remember?

[Andresvmb]

I am being pushed by too many players and my claim doubted too widely for me to have anyone else as solidly Town. For the record.

Do you think you're being unfairly sussed?

I think that Frog’s push of my slot was in extreme bad faith. I think it was ridiculous, and it was unfounded. I continue to feel that some of the arguments against me make no sense. And I think you’re not putting yourself in my shoes when you see attacks like the one conducted by Frog and not think that maybe I think that was absurdly aggravating and took a lot out of me.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

it literally makes 0 sense to execute VPB.

if we execute VPB!Town, we basically lost a lim for nothing.

if we are playing in the VPB!scum world, then scum are going for some weird af wifom game where they are trying to win via VPB defusals.

in which case they will put up VPB to defuse the bomb.

in which case we can just blow him up and we keep our lim and scum waste a night.

I didn't say that they are winning via

VP Baltar

defusals. I did say that they might be trying to win via scum bomb defusals, and continuously sending

VP Baltar

to solve bombs is part of that win.

Will the scums put up

VP Baltar

for bomb defusal again if he's scum and after me (and others have pointed it out)? I doubt it. Which is why, in my opinion, it is safer to eliminate him via vote today rather than hope that he will be chosen for the third time and then possibly explode him.

Especially, since that will be the decision of the bomb experts who might either:
a) be scum themselves,
b) have a different opinion and act on that opinion rather than on mine, yours or anyone else's wishes,
c) be swayed by scum into saving

VP

from exploding again.

a) we can't have 3 scum bomb experts and a scum defuser - if we are in that world we deserve to lose
b) i don't give a shit what anyone's opinion is, if you let someone defuse a bomb when we could possibly lose (as in 3 unresolved slots have defusals) thats borderline game throwing and you shouldnt do it.
c) see point B

also if scum dont put up VPB that's fine too because if they put up someone scummier than VPB we just execute and narrow POE and if they put up someone townier than VPB that person is probly just town.

[Andante]

I agree with not yeeting VP here, blow him up at night if you want, but not a lim, but tbh we just need to yeet A maf to see what kind of abilities maf have

[VP Baltar]

I am being pushed by too many players and my claim doubted too widely for me to have anyone else as solidly Town. For the record.

Do you think you're being unfairly sussed?

I think that Frog’s push of my slot was in extreme bad faith. I think it was ridiculous, and it was unfounded. I continue to feel that some of the arguments against me make no sense. And I think you’re not putting yourself in my shoes when you see attacks like the one conducted by Frog and not think that maybe I think that was absurdly aggravating and took a lot out of me.

I don't care about frog, fwiw. I'd still vote him 100/100 times in that situation.

[Andante]

wait, is the frog lim being debated? lol frog 1000% had to go... Andres was in that pt too...

[VP Baltar]

It’s the only player that made sense for me to protect out of that group mechanically.

I'm not following what you mean mechanically?

I have a modifier remember?

Hmm, ok. I forgot yall went mass insanity and full claimed because frog told you to.

[Andresvmb]

I am being pushed by too many players and my claim doubted too widely for me to have anyone else as solidly Town. For the record.

Do you think you're being unfairly sussed?

I think that Frog’s push of my slot was in extreme bad faith. I think it was ridiculous, and it was unfounded. I continue to feel that some of the arguments against me make no sense. And I think you’re not putting yourself in my shoes when you see attacks like the one conducted by Frog and not think that maybe I think that was absurdly aggravating and took a lot out of me.

I don't care about frog, fwiw. I'd still vote him 100/100 times in that situation.

So can you point me to the post where you’ve detailed why you SR me exactly? I can find it later but then you would have to wait on a response later.

[Andante]

Hey Andres, you're simple doc right? who have you been saving?

[Andresvmb]

It’s the only player that made sense for me to protect out of that group mechanically.

I'm not following what you mean mechanically?

I have a modifier remember?

Hmm, ok. I forgot yall went mass insanity and full claimed because frog told you to.

My claim was during the day not in the PT. And I already said that I was against claiming in there.

[VP Baltar]

wait, is the frog lim being debated? lol frog 1000% had to go... Andres was in that pt too...

Andres is only defending it to himself....no clue why

[Andresvmb]

Hey Andres, you're simple doc right? who have you been saving?

N1 - Pooky, N2 - Bell.

[Andante]

It’s the only player that made sense for me to protect out of that group mechanically.

I'm not following what you mean mechanically?

I have a modifier remember?

Hmm, ok. I forgot yall went mass insanity and full claimed because frog told you to.

I claimed cause people were saying no way town has bomb roles or whatever. no one was like "frog told me to claim? I will claim"