Open 848: Chromavalon: A Bouquet of Colors [Game Over]

[numberQ]

Spoiler: Flowers

Hiroshige,

Hibiscus

(ca. 1845)

Vote Count (2.8)

butterflies

[0]

[E-2]

Enchant

[3]

Umlaut, Titus, furtiveglance
fireisredsir

[0]

furtiveglance

[1]

butterflies
implosion

[1]

fireisredsir
ItalianoVD

[0]

Noraa

[0]

Titus

[0]

Umlaut

[0]

With

9

alive, it takes

5

to eliminate.

Not Voting:

Enchant, implosion, ItalianoVD, Noraa

Deadline:

April 14th, 2022, 4:15 PM EST ((expired on 2022-04-14 16:15:00))

[furtiveglance]

I am hunting - I have given my opinion already. I need flips

You can always hunt. Prod reads, update reads.
What you're doing basically is busywork. Designed to make you look good. I've thrown you a couple bones along this but honestly that newbie smell just ain't right on you.

You need flips for associatives, not in our case because frankly DAAAAAAAAAAMN NANCYS GOOOOOOOOOD. and ngl I fully agree with her having gone over it myself.

You got prodded too meaning you're inactive, are you genuinely that out of avenues to explore that the solution is to idle? Cause the thing is to me your solidifying our solve with your inactivity. You've showed critical thinking and analysis skills above what I'd expect of someone tip-toe-ing out of the newbie queue - which also tells me you have potential to be daaaaamned good.
You've cited a newbie game in your posts here as meta - I'm not a fan of searching out peoples meta I prefer to use live meta, my own experiences of playing with/against someone. Are you telling me if I compare you there to here I'll find someone who starts to slank when apparently out of things to explore?

I've been in situations like this before. Not much is happening and the game has kind of stalled - I'm actually in the majority being fairly inactive. If I re-read the game a thousand times I don't think I'd have some kind of epiphany. As Town in this setup I'm extra conscious of how I act, and it's also more important than usual to listen to your townreads/consensus. I think we are in a good place with the vote today, if Enchant happens to flip blue then it's on them for the hammer.

-Butterflea got lucid and brainpower again.

[butterflies]

Two things, furtive.

Spoiler: Thing one

A stale game state only helps scum. Keep the game moving to show you're town.

Spoiler: Thing two

I am hunting - I have given my opinion already. I need flips

You can always hunt. Prod reads, update reads.
What you're doing basically is busywork. Designed to make you look good. I've thrown you a couple bones along this but honestly that newbie smell just ain't right on you.

You need flips for associatives, not in our case because frankly DAAAAAAAAAAMN NANCYS GOOOOOOOOOD. and ngl I fully agree with her having gone over it myself.

You got prodded too meaning you're inactive, are you genuinely that out of avenues to explore that the solution is to idle? Cause the thing is to me your solidifying our solve with your inactivity. You've showed critical thinking and analysis skills above what I'd expect of someone tip-toe-ing out of the newbie queue - which also tells me you have potential to be daaaaamned good.
You've cited a newbie game in your posts here as meta - I'm not a fan of searching out peoples meta I prefer to use live meta, my own experiences of playing with/against someone. Are you telling me if I compare you there to here I'll find someone who starts to slank when apparently out of things to explore?

-Butterflea got lucid and brainpower again.

I've been in situations like this before. Not much is happening and the game has kind of stalled - I'm actually in the majority being fairly inactive. If I re-read the game a thousand times I don't think I'd have some kind of epiphany. As Town in this setup I'm extra conscious of how I act, and it's also more important than usual to listen to your townreads/consensus. I think we are in a good place with the vote today,

if Enchant happens to flip blue

then it's on them for the hammer.

Setup:

Chromavalon

• There are 3 Mafia Goons (or Painter's Blocks, per the flavor). One is

  Red

  , one is

  Yellow

  , and one is

  Blue

  .

Good slip. Thank you for confirming you and enchant are scum.

Thing two is pretty important btw, everyone should have a lil read of that one.


-Butterflea.

[butterflies]

Two things, furtive.

Spoiler: Thing one

A stale game state only helps scum. Keep the game moving to show you're town.

Spoiler: Thing two

I am hunting - I have given my opinion already. I need flips

You can always hunt. Prod reads, update reads.
What you're doing basically is busywork. Designed to make you look good. I've thrown you a couple bones along this but honestly that newbie smell just ain't right on you.

You need flips for associatives, not in our case because frankly DAAAAAAAAAAMN NANCYS GOOOOOOOOOD. and ngl I fully agree with her having gone over it myself.

You got prodded too meaning you're inactive, are you genuinely that out of avenues to explore that the solution is to idle? Cause the thing is to me your solidifying our solve with your inactivity. You've showed critical thinking and analysis skills above what I'd expect of someone tip-toe-ing out of the newbie queue - which also tells me you have potential to be daaaaamned good.
You've cited a newbie game in your posts here as meta - I'm not a fan of searching out peoples meta I prefer to use live meta, my own experiences of playing with/against someone. Are you telling me if I compare you there to here I'll find someone who starts to slank when apparently out of things to explore?

-Butterflea got lucid and brainpower again.

I've been in situations like this before. Not much is happening and the game has kind of stalled - I'm actually in the majority being fairly inactive. If I re-read the game a thousand times I don't think I'd have some kind of epiphany. As Town in this setup I'm extra conscious of how I act, and it's also more important than usual to listen to your townreads/consensus. I think we are in a good place with the vote today,

if Enchant happens to flip blue

then it's on them for the hammer.

Setup:

Chromavalon

• There are 3 Mafia Goons (or Painter's Blocks, per the flavor). One is

  Red

  , one is

  Yellow

  , and one is

  Blue

  .

Good slip. Thank you for confirming you and enchant are scum.

Thing two is pretty important btw, everyone should have a lil read of that one.


-Butterflea.

Holy fucking shit! furtive just outed Echant as blue paint blocker.

Welp, we can all guess what the next two flips will be now?

Anyone still doubting my solve on Umlaut as the third now?

~Nancyfly

[Enchant]

Who the hell is Echant

[butterflies]

Just bringing this back because I am actually singing this now lol

Spoiler: Sing to The Phantom of the Opera - video inside to help

Nancy

In sleep they sang to me, in text he came.
That voice which calls to me, and types our name.
And do I glare again, for now we find.
By the wolves scared decree,
We die tonight.

Flea

Sing once again with us, our strange duet.
Our power over this, grows stronger yet.
And though you turn from us, you glance behind!
The Butterflies Hydra,
There in your mind.

Nancy

Those who have seen your form
Will stand and fight.
I am the force, stood here.

Flea

(With me behind)

Both

Our spirit and our reads,
In one combined!
The Butterflies Hydra standing there
You cannot hide!

-ButterFlea

[butterflies]

Spoiler:

This is for my awesome hydra partner.

So, our solve was furtive/Enchant/Umlaut and furtive just confiscumed him and Enchant.

Sheep us on d4 on Umlaut for the win. Woot!

~Nancyfly

[Enchant]

Can you explain for idiots what it proves?

[butterflies]

I currently have two theories:

Enchant/Titus is my favourite solve, but if Enchant is town I'm looking at Umlaut/implosion

. If I had to vote right now I would vote for Enchant, but I want to use more of the day for discussion.

Remember this post people, Umlaut is definitely the third.

furtive/Enchant/Umlaut

Shame we were wrong on Dunn but we can still win on d4.

~Nancyfly

[fireisredsir]

idk if i really believe in scumslips like that but i think furtive is likely scum anyway so

shrug

sure

[butterflies]

Current reads:

butterflies

: I reassessed both butterflies and Noraa after that Dunnstral flip, but I've landed town on both. It's not just the high post count, but both players are either playing incredibly transparently or faking a level of transparency that should be impossible to fake.

Noraa

: fireisredsir suggested in 380 that it's unlikely both butterflies and Noraa are town. I had doubts about Noraa yesterday, but ze seem more town than ever after being so wrong. I understand if that doesn't seem logical, but zir doubting in the twilight seemed genuine to me.

fireisredsir

: Progo was null/town but fire has quickly become a strong townread - 380 and 411 are full of analysis which is great. They agree with my scumread on Umlaut and I agree with their take on Enchant which I will explain below.

implosion

: I like the vote on Enchant but not much else beyond that. 288 is too vague, 'maybe Galron or Titus' feels unsubstantiated. They make a lot of posts which are easy for scum to make - 289 is LAMIST. That said I would rather not eliminate implosion as they could become more town for me after some flips.

Galron

: Coasty like me. Not enough for me to get a read on yet.

Titus

: Voted Dunnstral yesterday with no explanation. Voted implosion today with no explanation. No analysis all game but unlike Galron, I get scummy vibes from Titus. I don't like the day 1 focus on Muses/wifom and she sussed me for a joke in my first post. I think I can tell when other town suspect me, and this is not it. A red flip wouldn't surprise me at all, and I can now see an Enchant/Titus pair after she 1) failed to mention the lolhammer yesterday and 2)voted implosion who later voted Enchant.

Umlaut

: 'Policy voting' Enchant pinged me. I wouldn't policy vote someone I thought was town. I also still think omgussing butterflies day 1 was scummy, followed by voting Progo who's slot is now town in my eyes. Seems to be pairing with implosion. I can't see implosion/Umlaut as much as I can see Enchant/Titus, but scum might not openly pair anyway.

Enchant

: Hammered a town, then had some very awkward twilight chat. Not good. Other players have mentioned that 'lolhammering' is part of Enchant's meta, but like fireisredsir said in 411, her play seems scum-motivated to me. I'm slightly wary of voting for Enchant as implosion and Umlaut have started the vote quite early today, and they are null and scum respectively for me. However, individually Enchant is my biggest scumread.

[butterflies]

idk if i really believe in scumslips like that but i think furtive is likely scum anyway so

shrug

sure

He said if Enchant flips blue scum. How could anyone besides a buddy know this? Only other possibility is he’s blue muse which I seriously doubt.

~Nancyfly

[Enchant]

So, we not talking with me anymore?

Okay i quess.

[butterflies]

So, we not talking with me anymore?

Okay i quess.

You can always try and refute the connection ya know.

That said, I need to go back and check an earlier potential slip.

-Butterflea

[butterflies]

Two things, furtive.

Spoiler: Thing one

A stale game state only helps scum. Keep the game moving to show you're town.

Spoiler: Thing two

I am hunting - I have given my opinion already. I need flips

You can always hunt. Prod reads, update reads.
What you're doing basically is busywork. Designed to make you look good. I've thrown you a couple bones along this but honestly that newbie smell just ain't right on you.

You need flips for associatives, not in our case because frankly DAAAAAAAAAAMN NANCYS GOOOOOOOOOD. and ngl I fully agree with her having gone over it myself.

You got prodded too meaning you're inactive, are you genuinely that out of avenues to explore that the solution is to idle? Cause the thing is to me your solidifying our solve with your inactivity. You've showed critical thinking and analysis skills above what I'd expect of someone tip-toe-ing out of the newbie queue - which also tells me you have potential to be daaaaamned good.
You've cited a newbie game in your posts here as meta - I'm not a fan of searching out peoples meta I prefer to use live meta, my own experiences of playing with/against someone. Are you telling me if I compare you there to here I'll find someone who starts to slank when apparently out of things to explore?

-Butterflea got lucid and brainpower again.

I've been in situations like this before. Not much is happening and the game has kind of stalled - I'm actually in the majority being fairly inactive. If I re-read the game a thousand times I don't think I'd have some kind of epiphany. As Town in this setup I'm extra conscious of how I act, and it's also more important than usual to listen to your townreads/consensus. I think we are in a good place with the vote today,

if Enchant happens to flip blue

then it's on them for the hammer.

Setup:

Chromavalon

• There are 3 Mafia Goons (or Painter's Blocks, per the flavor). One is

  Red

  , one is

  Yellow

  , and one is

  Blue

  .

Good slip. Thank you for confirming you and enchant are scum.

Thing two is pretty important btw, everyone should have a lil read of that one.


-Butterflea.

He didn’t say if Enchant flips scum, he said

blue

scum. Only players who could possibly know this are blue Merlin and paintblockers and I don’t believe furtive is a muse, so ergo=scumslip.

~Nancyfly

[butterflies]

So, we not talking with me anymore?

Okay i quess.

The only question I have for you is I think against the rules - not for me to ask obviously but for you to answer. And that obviously would be who’s your buddy. I think it’s Umlaut based both on furtive’s reads and your reaction to my initially sr/voting him + him having continually avoided giving a read on furtive despite me specifically requesting it.

~Nancyfly

[Enchant]

So, we not talking with me anymore?

Okay i quess.

The only question I have for you is I think against the rules - not for me to ask obviously but for you to answer. And that obviously would be who’s your buddy. I think it’s Umlaut based both on furtive’s reads and your reaction to my initially sr/voting him + him having continually avoided giving a read on furtive despite me specifically requesting it.

~Nancyfly

Idk who are my buddies.

If you talking from perspective i am confirmed scum already, then there's no point.

I just remember colors can't show on flips.

[Enchant]

Also my mantle is indeed blue.

[butterflies]

Two things, furtive.

Spoiler: Thing one

A stale game state only helps scum. Keep the game moving to show you're town.

Spoiler: Thing two

I am hunting - I have given my opinion already. I need flips

You can always hunt. Prod reads, update reads.
What you're doing basically is busywork. Designed to make you look good. I've thrown you a couple bones along this but honestly that newbie smell just ain't right on you.

You need flips for associatives, not in our case because frankly DAAAAAAAAAAMN NANCYS GOOOOOOOOOD. and ngl I fully agree with her having gone over it myself.

You got prodded too meaning you're inactive, are you genuinely that out of avenues to explore that the solution is to idle? Cause the thing is to me your solidifying our solve with your inactivity. You've showed critical thinking and analysis skills above what I'd expect of someone tip-toe-ing out of the newbie queue - which also tells me you have potential to be daaaaamned good.
You've cited a newbie game in your posts here as meta - I'm not a fan of searching out peoples meta I prefer to use live meta, my own experiences of playing with/against someone. Are you telling me if I compare you there to here I'll find someone who starts to slank when apparently out of things to explore?

-Butterflea got lucid and brainpower again.

I've been in situations like this before. Not much is happening and the game has kind of stalled - I'm actually in the majority being fairly inactive. If I re-read the game a thousand times I don't think I'd have some kind of epiphany. As Town in this setup I'm extra conscious of how I act, and it's also more important than usual to listen to your townreads/consensus. I think we are in a good place with the vote today,

if Enchant happens to flip blue

then it's on them for the hammer.

Setup:

Chromavalon

• There are 3 Mafia Goons (or Painter's Blocks, per the flavor). One is

  Red

  , one is

  Yellow

  , and one is

  Blue

  .

Good slip. Thank you for confirming you and enchant are scum.

Thing two is pretty important btw, everyone should have a lil read of that one.


-Butterflea.

He didn’t say if Enchant flips scum, he said

blue

scum. Only players who could possibly know this are blue Merlin and paintblockers and I don’t believe furtive is a muse, so ergo=scumslip.

~Nancyfly

It's not even that furtive could be a muse, the TMI is a scumslip.
Furtive CANNOT be a muse and Enchants confirmation now secures 2 of the 3 scumteam.
Blue Muse SHOULD NOT OUT.

Each Merlin knows their own color, and the identity of the same color Mafia Goon.
Each Merlin knows who the other two Merlins are, but not their colors.

[Enchant]

If you so assured, why you not voting me?

[butterflies]

Also my mantle is indeed blue.

Thanks for confirming you and furtive are scum.

~Nancyfly

[butterflies]

Two things, furtive.

Spoiler: Thing one

A stale game state only helps scum. Keep the game moving to show you're town.

Spoiler: Thing two

I am hunting - I have given my opinion already. I need flips

You can always hunt. Prod reads, update reads.
What you're doing basically is busywork. Designed to make you look good. I've thrown you a couple bones along this but honestly that newbie smell just ain't right on you.

You need flips for associatives, not in our case because frankly DAAAAAAAAAAMN NANCYS GOOOOOOOOOD. and ngl I fully agree with her having gone over it myself.

You got prodded too meaning you're inactive, are you genuinely that out of avenues to explore that the solution is to idle? Cause the thing is to me your solidifying our solve with your inactivity. You've showed critical thinking and analysis skills above what I'd expect of someone tip-toe-ing out of the newbie queue - which also tells me you have potential to be daaaaamned good.
You've cited a newbie game in your posts here as meta - I'm not a fan of searching out peoples meta I prefer to use live meta, my own experiences of playing with/against someone. Are you telling me if I compare you there to here I'll find someone who starts to slank when apparently out of things to explore?

-Butterflea got lucid and brainpower again.

I've been in situations like this before. Not much is happening and the game has kind of stalled - I'm actually in the majority being fairly inactive. If I re-read the game a thousand times I don't think I'd have some kind of epiphany. As Town in this setup I'm extra conscious of how I act, and it's also more important than usual to listen to your townreads/consensus. I think we are in a good place with the vote today,

if Enchant happens to flip blue

then it's on them for the hammer.

Setup:

Chromavalon

• There are 3 Mafia Goons (or Painter's Blocks, per the flavor). One is

  Red

  , one is

  Yellow

  , and one is

  Blue

  .

Good slip. Thank you for confirming you and enchant are scum.

Thing two is pretty important btw, everyone should have a lil read of that one.


-Butterflea.

He didn’t say if Enchant flips scum, he said

blue

scum. Only players who could possibly know this are blue Merlin and paintblockers and I don’t believe furtive is a muse, so ergo=scumslip.

~Nancyfly

It's not even that furtive could be a muse, the TMI is a scumslip.
Furtive CANNOT be a muse and Enchants confirmation now secures 2 of the 3 scumteam.
Blue Muse SHOULD NOT OUT.

Each Merlin knows their own color, and the identity of the same color Mafia Goon.
Each Merlin knows who the other two Merlins are, but not their colors.

-ButterFlea

PEDIT: Cause we're voting Furtive, you know, the one who slipped...

[butterflies]

If you so assured, why you not voting me?

We can only vote ONE of you today, so how is this seriously even an argument?

~Nancyfly

[Enchant]

Also my mantle is indeed blue.

Thanks for confirming you and furtive are scum.

~Nancyfly

Wtf wearing blue clothes is not scummy

[Enchant]

If you so assured, why you not voting me?

We can only vote ONE of you today, so how is this seriously even an argument?

~Nancyfly

Well, i am on E-2.

Furtive on E-4.