KTaNE [game over!]

[Andante]

In my experience, if you don't like a wagon, run someone else up and convince people to back you. Complaining is Zzzz and you could be scum shading a wagon on your buddy.

yaasss!! if someone hates the current one, make a good case for someone else and people likely flip, like there's 4 whole mafs here..

[Andante]

Fire and Frogs were wagons that just feel way too convenient pushes.

Frogs had to go... why are you saying frogs was too convinient? Frogs, knowing catboi was an IC, refused to solve..

[VP Baltar]

Fire and Frogs were wagons that just feel way too convenient pushes.

Fire I can agree with. Frogs had to die regardless of alignment. You can't let someone live if they fake role claim and then sabotage an IC

[Andante]

Like, Strange, if you hated our picks for other wagons, you're more than welcome to suggest a better one... can't just go "yall picked bad d1 and d2.." like, what did you actively do to stop those lims? nothing? then can't hate on them

[VP Baltar]

Andante jinxing me

[StrangeMatter]

Fire and Frogs were wagons that just feel way too convenient pushes.

Frogs had to go... why are you saying frogs was too convinient? Frogs, knowing catboi was an IC, refused to solve..

Yes and I agree Frogs should've gone. But at the same time Mafia knows who they want to push, even knowing Frogs didn't do anything right and was just straight up anti-town, I think scum!Dwlee despite making their case early in the game, would've just jumped onto that, even if it was a different player. Plus its an elim that for one as you've stated is one that wouldn't get any scrutiny in the slightest because of how anti-town Frogs was.

[StrangeMatter]

Like, Strange, if you hated our picks for other wagons, you're more than welcome to suggest a better one... can't just go "yall picked bad d1 and d2.." like, what did you actively do to stop those lims? nothing? then can't hate on them

Are you trying to imply I didn't try to do anything at all??? I didn't believe I had a good way to stop that wagon and now you believe I should just have no opinion on wagons looking back.

[StrangeMatter]

Sorry, I'm having a miserable week. But I mean I wanted the elimination to be somewhere else with the Day 1 Elimination (but as it turns out the person I wanted was wrong anyways WOOO) I just felt like the elimination was a stupid day 1 choice. And while yes I was one of the pushers on Frogs, but looking back I can't help it but say was the Frogsterking not at some level convenient for people to jump onto, especially as scum?

[Dwlee99]

Frogs was not a convenient push at all when I pushed them day one and you continue to ignore this even though I'm pretty sure I already said it

[Dwlee99]

Like Bell you got your preferred lim both days and were an expert and now you're trying to lim me because you think it's weird I want to be an expert? I don't get it

And you think Titus is qualified to be an expert because why? What has she done that's townie?

Relaxed Titus is town Titus to me and I have like 4 options to choose from.
Imo, imo, it’s just better for town to control who dies than scum. Though, I don’t really think frogster was my preferred lim. Also, this game definitely isn’t a my turn now it’s your turn type of game and I don’t know why you’re trying to say otherwise. But please don’t answer that question. It’s not one I wanna know the answer to, rn.

I do not think relaxed Titus should be your metric for her alignment as someone who has played with her a lot.

Yes it's better for town to pick who dies.

The turn thing is dumb I'll take it back it was like 3am

Also Oi, are you really going to make the argument that it’s my fault you didn’t read my posts this day phase. Because that sounds needlessly stubborn and agendaish.

On the other hand, apparently you’ve wanted to be an expert day 1 and day 2 and I didn’t read that. So sorry, though I don’t think me knowing that would have changed who I voted for much.

Not that it's your fault just that that's why I responded how I did cause I thought that was it from you

Wait, why was day 1 a total shitshow from your point of view.

Nothing good was accomplished if Andres is town. We pushed two wagons: Andres and Fire. Both claimed a protective role. We limmed Fire without me even being around to chime in. There's very little to point to and be like "okay here's the next direction we should take based on flips" and even if there were frogster literally blew it up N1 and D2 so gamestate is megafucked

[Andante]

Sorry, I'm having a miserable week. But I mean I wanted the elimination to be somewhere else with the Day 1 Elimination (but as it turns out the person I wanted was wrong anyways WOOO) I just felt like the elimination was a stupid day 1 choice. And while yes I was one of the pushers on Frogs, but looking back I can't help it but say was the Frogsterking not at some level convenient for people to jump onto, especially as scum?

was maf supposed to slam the brakes on a town wagon though? like, I guess we could look at d1 frogs.. that everyone healed.. I didn't TR frogs D1, and I know a lot of others didn't, I'm not searching 100 pages for people who "knew frogs was town" though, cause frogs was doing his own thing... if he had been even the slightest bit townier, I'd say maybe interactions or something would say something... but ehhh I wouldn't even be surprised if all town voted out frogs yesterday tbh

[Dwlee99]

vote count 2.final

• with
  17
  votes in play, it took
  9
  to make a decision.
  
• day 2 ended.
  
• 3
  players who have the most nominations will be bomb experts on n2.

execution:

Frogsterking [9]:

Greeting, VP Baltar, Cephrir, StrangeMatter, Mistyx, Andante, Enchant, PookyTheMagicalBear, Andresvmb

[HAMMER]

Dwlee99 [1]:

Frogsterking

not voting [7]:

GuiltyLion, Dwlee99, Cat Scratch Fever, Menalque, Titus, Malakittens, Bell

bomb expert nominations:

Bell [10]:

Andante, VP Baltar, Cephrir, Cat Scratch Fever, PookyTheMagicalBear, Mistyx, GuiltyLion, Enchant, Menalque, Andresvmb

VP Baltar [9]:

Cephrir, Cat Scratch Fever, Andante, PookyTheMagicalBear, GuiltyLion, Enchant, Greeting, Menalque, Andresvmb

GuiltyLion [7]:

Andante, PookyTheMagicalBear, Cat Scratch Fever, VP Baltar, Enchant, Menalque, Andresvmb

Enchant [6]:

VP Baltar, Andante, Cat Scratch Fever, GuiltyLion, Greeting, Menalque

Dwlee99 [3]:

PookyTheMagicalBear, Cephrir, Enchant

Mistyx [1]:

Enchant

Titus [1]:

Enchant

Malakittens [1]:

Enchant

Strangematter [1]:

Enchant

not nominating [6]:

Frogsterking, Dwlee99, Titus, Malakittens, StrangeMatter, Bell

ineligible to be nominated:

Andante, Greeting, Andresvmb, Frogsterking, Menalque, PookyTheMagicalBear, Cat Scratch Fever, Cephrir

mod notes:

• Menalque v/la weekends.
  
• the vote counter is acting weird and i'm counting votes by hand, let me know if i make any mistakes.

Strange's argument is also funny when I wasn't even on the frog wagon

[Andante]

I needed a distraction, but this isn't really working lol ahhhhh my dog is at the vet and I'm just stressed about that (she should be fine, just a spay... but still), I guess I'll just let yall continue with whatever, and I'll show up again later like "what are yall arguing??" ok gg. if someone has a better case than mala I'm all ears, but I need more than just like 2 sentences

[Dwlee99]

I was telling everyone to unvote so we had more time and force more reactions out of people but instead day was hammered with Mala just saying "powpowpow" or whatever it was.

[Andante]

vote count 2.final

• with
  17
  votes in play, it took
  9
  to make a decision.
  
• day 2 ended.
  
• 3
  players who have the most nominations will be bomb experts on n2.

execution:

Frogsterking [9]:

Greeting, VP Baltar, Cephrir, StrangeMatter, Mistyx, Andante, Enchant, PookyTheMagicalBear, Andresvmb

[HAMMER]

Dwlee99 [1]:

Frogsterking

not voting [7]:

GuiltyLion, Dwlee99, Cat Scratch Fever, Menalque, Titus, Malakittens, Bell

bomb expert nominations:

Bell [10]:

Andante, VP Baltar, Cephrir, Cat Scratch Fever, PookyTheMagicalBear, Mistyx, GuiltyLion, Enchant, Menalque, Andresvmb

VP Baltar [9]:

Cephrir, Cat Scratch Fever, Andante, PookyTheMagicalBear, GuiltyLion, Enchant, Greeting, Menalque, Andresvmb

GuiltyLion [7]:

Andante, PookyTheMagicalBear, Cat Scratch Fever, VP Baltar, Enchant, Menalque, Andresvmb

Enchant [6]:

VP Baltar, Andante, Cat Scratch Fever, GuiltyLion, Greeting, Menalque

Dwlee99 [3]:

PookyTheMagicalBear, Cephrir, Enchant

Mistyx [1]:

Enchant

Titus [1]:

Enchant

Malakittens [1]:

Enchant

Strangematter [1]:

Enchant

not nominating [6]:

Frogsterking, Dwlee99, Titus, Malakittens, StrangeMatter, Bell

ineligible to be nominated:

Andante, Greeting, Andresvmb, Frogsterking, Menalque, PookyTheMagicalBear, Cat Scratch Fever, Cephrir

mod notes:

• Menalque v/la weekends.
  
• the vote counter is acting weird and i'm counting votes by hand, let me know if i make any mistakes.

Strange's argument is also funny when I wasn't even on the frog wagon

looking at the people on frog, I'm pretty certain no more than 1 maf is on that frogs wagon, could be no maf there, so I wouldn't argue that for town cred lol

[Andante]

dwlee I need to interact more with you tbh, you're pretty easy to read, but like, I don't think we've interacted at all this game

[Andante]

that's a later problem though

[Dwlee99]

dwlee I need to interact more with you tbh, you're pretty easy to read, but like, I don't think we've interacted at all this game

1. Ouch
2. I was trying earlier in the game lol

[Andante]

Btw, we can unvote someone for defuser if we want somehow? I presume?

Hurt tags, assuming you mean bomb expert

Yes ty

Dwlee, why is andante scum?

She just is I get this vibe

1.) She's always scum
2.) Seriously read her post she's just scum
3.) Pooky is scum for not also realizing she is scum yet and killing her

ahh yes I see why I decided to just ignore you lol

[Andante]

see the problem is, I wasted so much freaking effort in bomb pt, cause frogs thought it was funny to just claim maf

[VP Baltar]

my dog is at the vet and I'm just stressed about that (she should be fine, just a spay... but still)

She will be ok!

[VP Baltar]

Strange, can I get your thoughts on andres and Titus please.

[Andante]

like, frogs going "here's my poe, (list of 19 people with frogs as #1)" yeah... town... right... but I put so much effort into reading all that, that I'm kinda just dead. My case on Strange I'm pretty sure held up regardless of any of the others, mist and dw were interactions based, I'm doubting my strange case, so ehh mala and titus look like fine places for a vote

[Andante]

my dog is at the vet and I'm just stressed about that (she should be fine, just a spay... but still)

She will be ok!

<3

[StrangeMatter]

Strange's argument is also funny when I wasn't even on the frog wagon

Last I checked, you were still a part of the wagon despite not being on the wagon itself, when you yourself did join into the wagon at several points and were part of the group pushing (not necessarily voting) but you were in fact part of the push.