Open 848: Chromavalon: A Bouquet of Colors [Game Over]

[butterflies]

Spoiler: Flowers

Hiroshige,

Hibiscus

(ca. 1845)

Vote Count (2.8)

butterflies

[0]

[E-2]

Enchant

[3]

Umlaut, Titus, furtiveglance
fireisredsir

[0]

furtiveglance

[1]

butterflies
implosion

[1]

fireisredsir
ItalianoVD

[0]

Noraa

[0]

Titus

[0]

Umlaut

[0]

With

9

alive, it takes

5

to eliminate.

Not Voting:

Enchant, implosion, ItalianoVD, Noraa

Deadline:

April 14th, 2022, 4:15 PM EST ((expired on 2022-04-14 16:15:00))

So I lurked on mafia.gg to watch a game and see what colours and stuff were... and yeah blue is town.

So why are you voting there?

-butterflea

[butterflies]

It's easy to verify I am telling the truth, my background is on mafia.gg where Blue is Town and Red is mafia. Your theory was that Enchant is the Blue Painter's Block and I said Blue instead of scum? I was saying if they're town at this point it's their fault for being so scummy, not my fault for scumreading them. I don't see what you were seeing at all......

See mafia.gg has blue as town, not as scum... by your own admission and my own lurking.

So why would you say blue instead of scum?

-butterflea

[fireisredsir]

ok thats why I didn't think it was a slip. didn't want to give him the answer just in case, but... i think it's pretty clear that's what it meant. doesn't mean your other reasons for suspecting are invalid, but i think that one is

Italiano p sus for jumping on that though

[fireisredsir]

VOTE: italiano

[ItalianoVD]

To be honest I repped in because I love the playerlist. It’s unfortunate I wasn’t able to kick it with Dunnstral and Gamma, but I’ll be just fine with Noraa, Nancy, and Flea.

[ItalianoVD]

And I’ve been reading since day 1 so I gotta pretty solid handle on the game.

[butterflies]

ok thats why I didn't think it was a slip. didn't want to give him the answer just in case, but... i think it's pretty clear that's what it meant. doesn't mean your other reasons for suspecting are invalid, but i think that one is

Italiano p sus for jumping on that though

So you're buying the bad cover up story?

Town = Blue.
Enchant = flipping blue.
Furtive = VOTING ENCHANT.

The logic does not follow.

-Butterflea.

[furtiveglance]

It's easy to verify I am telling the truth, my background is on mafia.gg where Blue is Town and Red is mafia. Your theory was that Enchant is the Blue Painter's Block and I said Blue instead of scum? I was saying if they're town at this point it's their fault for being so scummy, not my fault for scumreading them. I don't see what you were seeing at all......

See mafia.gg has blue as town, not as scum... by your own admission and my own lurking.

So why would you say blue instead of scum?

-butterflea

Is it not clear what I meant? If Enchant is Blue (town), in terms of apportioning blame if we were to lose, I would blame Enchant for the scummy nature of their hammer. I used Blue meaning town. I did not use Blue meaning scum - my point would make no sense.

[fireisredsir]

ok thats why I didn't think it was a slip. didn't want to give him the answer just in case, but... i think it's pretty clear that's what it meant. doesn't mean your other reasons for suspecting are invalid, but i think that one is

Italiano p sus for jumping on that though

So you're buying the bad cover up story?

Town = Blue.
Enchant = flipping blue.
Furtive = VOTING ENCHANT.

The logic does not follow.

-Butterflea.

it's not a bad cover up story, it's exactly the way i read it the first time i saw it

read the post again.

"I think we are in a good place with the vote today, if Enchant happens to flip blue then it's on them for the hammer."

replace blue with green. the sentence makes sense. if you replace blue with scum, it doesn't make sense. he clearly was saying that if they happen to flip town, it's their fault anyway

which, btw, is a weird and kinda sus thing to say on its own, but it isn't a slip

[ItalianoVD]

VOTE: italiano

Well hello to you too.

[fireisredsir]

VOTE: italiano

Well hello to you too.

hi!

[furtiveglance]

Italiano, Galron didn't say much. You said you had been following the game - what are your reads so far?

[numberQ]

Spoiler: Flowers

Piet Mondrian,

Amaryllis

(1910)

Vote Count (2.9)

butterflies

[0]

[E-2]

Enchant

[3]

Umlaut, Titus, furtiveglance
fireisredsir

[0]

furtiveglance

[2]

butterflies, ItalianoVD
implosion

[0]

ItalianoVD

[1]

fireisredsir
Noraa

[0]

Titus

[0]

Umlaut

[0]

With

9

alive, it takes

5

to eliminate.

Not Voting:

Enchant, implosion, Noraa

Deadline:

April 14th, 2022, 4:15 PM EST ((expired on 2022-04-14 16:15:00))

[butterflies]

In that case fire, I can't help you. If you can work out why furtive is voting enchant who is now a townread in a game where furtive has by their own admission said they're being particular with their vote and need to listen to their townreads, then let me know.

You do not vote your TRs with that long left on the timer.
You do not sit there happily with the game going stagnant with over a week left and your vote parked on a TR.
Furtive has TMI'd Enchant as blue.
Enchant has pretty much confirmed they are blue.

I will not drop this as Furtive has perspective slipped earlier.

Hi everyone, I'll read through, give my thoughts on players, and vote tonight when I get home. As for the strategy talk, I read a previous game of this setup and town actually lost the main game, and the mafia wouldn't have guessed the Merlins correctly. Therefore we might have slightly more wiggle room in terms of Muses influencing the game or even claiming outright than you might expect. The main thing is to ensure we at least win the main game.

There is only one game for town. scum have 2 games, one to solve Muses, the other to elim all town. Both me and Nancy spotted this post as questionable. I threw a bone at the time, but nah. Too many slips and too much evidence at this point.

We yeet either furtive or enchant tbh, cause the other gets yeet tomorrow.
and yes, I am threatening the Tunnel'o'flea.

-Butterflea.

[ItalianoVD]

Italiano, Galron didn't say much. You said you had been following the game - what are your reads so far?

Today I’m sheeping. Tomorrow I’ll give reads and all that.

[ItalianoVD]

Just know that I’m paying attention and none of you can get over on me.

[ItalianoVD]

To be honest I repped in because I love the playerlist. It’s unfortunate I wasn’t able to kick it with Dunnstral and Gamma, but I’ll be just fine with Noraa, Nancy, and Flea.

Aww dang I forgot about Titus.

[furtiveglance]

In that case fire, I can't help you. If you can work out why furtive is voting enchant who is now a townread in a game where furtive has by their own admission said they're being particular with their vote and need to listen to their townreads, then let me know.

You do not vote your TRs with that long left on the timer.
You do not sit there happily with the game going stagnant with over a week left and your vote parked on a TR.
Furtive has TMI'd Enchant as blue.
Enchant has pretty much confirmed they are blue.

I will not drop this as Furtive has perspective slipped earlier.

Hi everyone, I'll read through, give my thoughts on players, and vote tonight when I get home. As for the strategy talk, I read a previous game of this setup and town actually lost the main game, and the mafia wouldn't have guessed the Merlins correctly. Therefore we might have slightly more wiggle room in terms of Muses influencing the game or even claiming outright than you might expect. The main thing is to ensure we at least win the main game.

There is only one game for town. scum have 2 games, one to solve Muses, the other to elim all town. Both me and Nancy spotted this post as questionable. I threw a bone at the time, but nah. Too many slips and too much evidence at this point.

We yeet either furtive or enchant tbh, cause the other gets yeet tomorrow.
and yes, I am threatening the Tunnel'o'flea.

-Butterflea.

Enchant has never been a townread of mine. That was your own invention. Anyone who has read my posts should know this. As for my comment about the 'main game', I'm just conscious that mafia have a secondary win con - which they weren't close to completing in a previous game when town lost outright, so town has slightly more leeway regarding Muses than people might think. So both of these points are redundant. If you think my posts are otherwise 'fake' I can't really help you, that's just a matter of opinion.

[fireisredsir]

Italiano, Galron didn't say much. You said you had been following the game - what are your reads so far?

Today I’m sheeping. Tomorrow I’ll give reads and all that.

i don't think that's enough

[butterflies]

I have slightly different word flow but it works.

Spoiler: {YT}Avantasia: Another Angel Down

Spoiler: Flea: Taking Scumbutts Down

We are the masters of the game
that made a fool you.
We're watching from across the forums.
You got the aura to Enchant, blue and its nasty.
And we have got the power!

You better run - they call it mafia: my special area
We're making solves over here, yeah.
Ain't it a sin to turn your back
on role you're given
It's time to make our stand.

You made a big slip - We've been watching you play
And now for the town - the time has come
To trust in our plan - To tear down your block
And see what's inside

WE ROCK THE VOTE!
Get smashed to the ground,
We are the towncore,
Lets take a look and see who you are.
Sight of the Hydra: Taking scumbutts down.

Oh Ooh!

We rock the vote!
We've made our solve
With a joy and a symphony
Driven by the slips you cannot hide.
We will win this game: Taking scumbutts down.

We'll remove the Blocks and let creativity flow again.
We don't let town lose any other.
Flea and Nancy grabbin' Ice Cream and chilling out.
We got this nailed down.

Yeet scum tomorrow,
Forgive Nora for yesterday
Furtive gets yeet tonight
And for the solve we have scum will try to deny
WE WILL DIE TONIGHT

They left you for dead - deepwolfing gone dead.
Nancy and Flea - This powerful Hydra
You've got the draw and desire to claw
Tryna save your game.

WE ROCK THE VOTE!
Get smashed to the ground,
We are the towncore,
Butterflies taking no prisoners
Sight of the Hydra: Taking scumbutts down.

Oh Ooh!

We rock the vote!
We've made our solve.
With a joy and a symphony!
Driven by the slips you cannot hide.
We will win this game: Taking scumbutts down.

[furtiveglance]

I admire the creativity. Respond to my last post maybe? Where did I townread Enchant for instance?

[butterflies]

I hate to disappoint you, but I'm not mafia. I'll be impressed if you're right about Enchant/Umlaut, but I would warn against relying on meta too much. That's how we quickhammered town yesterday, because of a 'meta read'.

enchant/Umlaut/furtive

Remember this when we die.


~Nancyfly

I actually agree with Enchant and Umlaut both being scummy. I think Enchant is the best vote today. I can't see Enchant/Umlaut together though. Obviously bussing exists, I just can't see why scum would do it in this setup, in which Town has a lot of information. Mafia scumreading teammates and townreading town seems like very bad strategy. I admit to not having a complete team in the same way that you do, but I think a more realistic solve is Enchant/Titus if scum!Enchant and Umlaut/implosion if town!Enchant. Galron could be scum in either case but I'm not sure on them yet.

In that case fire, I can't help you. If you can work out why furtive is voting enchant who is now a townread in a game where furtive has by their own admission said they're being particular with their vote and need to listen to their townreads, then let me know.

You do not vote your TRs with that long left on the timer.
You do not sit there happily with the game going stagnant with over a week left and your vote parked on a TR.
Furtive has TMI'd Enchant as blue.
Enchant has pretty much confirmed they are blue.

I will not drop this as Furtive has perspective slipped earlier.

Hi everyone, I'll read through, give my thoughts on players, and vote tonight when I get home. As for the strategy talk, I read a previous game of this setup and town actually lost the main game, and the mafia wouldn't have guessed the Merlins correctly. Therefore we might have slightly more wiggle room in terms of Muses influencing the game or even claiming outright than you might expect. The main thing is to ensure we at least win the main game.

There is only one game for town. scum have 2 games, one to solve Muses, the other to elim all town. Both me and Nancy spotted this post as questionable. I threw a bone at the time, but nah. Too many slips and too much evidence at this point.

We yeet either furtive or enchant tbh, cause the other gets yeet tomorrow.
and yes, I am threatening the Tunnel'o'flea.

-Butterflea.

Enchant has never been a townread of mine. That was your own invention. Anyone who has read my posts should know this. As for my comment about the 'main game', I'm just conscious that mafia have a secondary win con - which they weren't close to completing in a previous game when town lost outright, so town has slightly more leeway regarding Muses than people might think. So both of these points are redundant. If you think my posts are otherwise 'fake' I can't really help you, that's just a matter of opinion.

Thats actually fair... you wouldn't want to TR your deepwolf ticket.

you keep saying your conscious of stuff, and being self self-conscious.
You realise that's a scumtrait, right?

Town dgaf how they look. I rarely do. I say it how I see it. Admittedly I cock up like I did on your Enchant TR, my bad, I retract that.
Thing is as far as I'm concerned, you and Enchant confirmed Enchant as the Blue Block.

Cause I looked at your other games too, as well as stayed on mafia.gg for a little bit.

People don't mention colours much in the games I've observed there. For rapid fire games they actually say roles/abbrevs for the roles.

And you've never said blue as an alignment in the time you've been here. For that matter you've never used Red or Green either.

-Butterflea

[butterflies]

Didn't mean to quote those, thought I'd removed them.

eh you can see my process at least.

-Butterflea

[butterflies]

Oop caught myself again....

Malcolm: Laughed at TTT's unfunny joke in 23. No offence TTT but it wasn't. Since then has grown into the game by snapping at the heels of O. In 104 they explain (unprompted) why they are town in Luke's eyes. Many unnecessary posts, and could be deemed guilty of tunneling O.

If O flips green,

would be in contention to get my vote. That said, for now it's a Townlean.

Hey thats in your first game on site too <3

We dont need another heeee-roooooooo.....

-Butterflea

[furtiveglance]

I hate to disappoint you, but I'm not mafia. I'll be impressed if you're right about Enchant/Umlaut, but I would warn against relying on meta too much. That's how we quickhammered town yesterday, because of a 'meta read'.

enchant/Umlaut/furtive

Remember this when we die.


~Nancyfly

I actually agree with Enchant and Umlaut both being scummy. I think Enchant is the best vote today. I can't see Enchant/Umlaut together though. Obviously bussing exists, I just can't see why scum would do it in this setup, in which Town has a lot of information. Mafia scumreading teammates and townreading town seems like very bad strategy. I admit to not having a complete team in the same way that you do, but I think a more realistic solve is Enchant/Titus if scum!Enchant and Umlaut/implosion if town!Enchant. Galron could be scum in either case but I'm not sure on them yet.

In that case fire, I can't help you. If you can work out why furtive is voting enchant who is now a townread in a game where furtive has by their own admission said they're being particular with their vote and need to listen to their townreads, then let me know.

You do not vote your TRs with that long left on the timer.
You do not sit there happily with the game going stagnant with over a week left and your vote parked on a TR.
Furtive has TMI'd Enchant as blue.
Enchant has pretty much confirmed they are blue.

I will not drop this as Furtive has perspective slipped earlier.

Hi everyone, I'll read through, give my thoughts on players, and vote tonight when I get home. As for the strategy talk, I read a previous game of this setup and town actually lost the main game, and the mafia wouldn't have guessed the Merlins correctly. Therefore we might have slightly more wiggle room in terms of Muses influencing the game or even claiming outright than you might expect. The main thing is to ensure we at least win the main game.

There is only one game for town. scum have 2 games, one to solve Muses, the other to elim all town. Both me and Nancy spotted this post as questionable. I threw a bone at the time, but nah. Too many slips and too much evidence at this point.

We yeet either furtive or enchant tbh, cause the other gets yeet tomorrow.
and yes, I am threatening the Tunnel'o'flea.

-Butterflea.

Enchant has never been a townread of mine. That was your own invention. Anyone who has read my posts should know this. As for my comment about the 'main game', I'm just conscious that mafia have a secondary win con - which they weren't close to completing in a previous game when town lost outright, so town has slightly more leeway regarding Muses than people might think. So both of these points are redundant. If you think my posts are otherwise 'fake' I can't really help you, that's just a matter of opinion.

Thats actually fair... you wouldn't want to TR your deepwolf ticket.

you keep saying your conscious of stuff, and being self self-conscious.
You realise that's a scumtrait, right?

Town dgaf how they look. I rarely do. I say it how I see it. Admittedly I cock up like I did on your Enchant TR, my bad, I retract that.
Thing is as far as I'm concerned, you and Enchant confirmed Enchant as the Blue Block.

Cause I looked at your other games too, as well as stayed on mafia.gg for a little bit.

People don't mention colours much in the games I've observed there. For rapid fire games they actually say roles/abbrevs for the roles.

And you've never said blue as an alignment in the time you've been here. For that matter you've never used Red or Green either.

-Butterflea

I do 'gaf' about how I look. I think it's my duty as town to 1) be towny and 2) scumread mafia. As for the Blue thing, it's a turn of phrase which is very common on mafia.gg. People either flip blue or flip red