KTaNE [game over!]

[Datisi]

vote count 3.07

• with
  16
  votes in play, it takes
  9
  to make a decision.
  
• day 3 ends in
  (expired on 2022-04-18 21:00:00)
  .
  
• 3
  players who have the most nominations will be bomb experts on n3.

execution:

Malakittens [5]:

Dwlee99, Cephrir, Cat Scratch Fever, PookyTheMagicalBear, GuiltyLion

Dwlee99 [2]:

StrangeMatter, Andante

VP Baltar [2]:

Menalque, Greeting

Titus [2]:

VP Baltar, Enchant

Cat Scratch Fever [1]:

Mistyx

not voting [4]:

Andresvmb, Titus, Malakittens, Bell

bomb expert nominations:

VP Baltar [7]:

PookyTheMagicalBear, GuiltyLion, Enchant, Cephrir, Cat Scratch Fever, Mistyx, Andante

Dwlee99 [6]:

GuiltyLion, Enchant, VP Baltar, Cephrir, Cat Scratch Fever, Mistyx

StrangeMatter [3]:

Enchant, Cephrir, VP Baltar

Titus [2]:

Enchant, Bell

Malakittens [1]:

Enchant

not nominating [7]:

Dwlee99, Greeting, Andresvmb, Menalque, Titus, Malakittens, StrangeMatter

ineligible to be nominated:

Andante, Greeting, Andresvmb, Menalque, PookyTheMagicalBear, Cat Scratch Fever, Cephrir, Bell, Mistyx, GuiltyLion

mod notes:

• Menalque v/la weekends.
  
• the vote counter is acting weird and i'm counting votes by hand, let me know if i make any mistakes.

[Menalque]

today is the last day of term, so I should be around more after I've lesson planned

I haven't read anything since I was last here, but I've reconsidered and I think I'm willing to lim in the pool of "likely scum" one more time

if the PoE of likely suspects doesn't flip scum, then I think it's likely we're in a world where scum lives in the town-ish (or at least, null) players and we're being played into limming slots that just look bad

[VP Baltar]

I'm hesitant to lim Titus at this point because I don't think her inactivity is alignment indicative, Titus is perfectly capable of playing/keeping up as scum so probably just genuine IRL busy-ness there

Yes, Titus is capable of posting as either alignment. Thing is, if she is town, I want to town read her and work with her to solve the game. She's one of the folks I have played with most in this game, along with andres. It's slightly distressing to me that each of them are sidelining in their own way and have been on what I consider a bad wagon, both for ???? reasons.

Mala is a fine lim, not going to argue with you on that. We can make more use of the day than that lim alone though. Like I said earlier, I think we have maybe not been playing the day game very much so far and are focusing on the shiney night game.

[Andante]

VOTE: Titus

did someone say lim titus?

[VP Baltar]

VOTE: Titus

did someone say lim titus?

Yaya.

How's the puppers btw?

[Andante]

oh! pup is doing good!! she was crying/whining all night last night, it was so sad!!! but doing a lot better today like, now she's just sleeping!! instead of the crying as she's staring at me... (it was very heartbreaking last night!!)

[VP Baltar]

Poor doggo! Glad she is doing better

[Andante]

thanks for caring!!!

ahhh like, titus and mala, we need something from yall.. if I had to guess 1 is likely town other maf, i just wanna lim a maf here!!! but like I TR the people talking (mostly)

[Andante]

oh wait no, GL stuff was weird

[Andante]

ok I'm caught up and hey I am gonna give a quick n dirty readslist

town: {CSF, Bell, Ceph, Dwlee, Andante, Greeting}

prob-town?: {VP Baltar, Andres, Menalque}
nothing has pushed me either way: {Titus, Strange}
kinda scummy: {Pooky, Enchant}

scum: {Mala, Misty}

I'm really only feeling confident about the top and bottom tiers, middle is waffley. I do not like a lot of Pooky's most recent pushing on Dwlee. Enchant is making bad lazy votes.

CSF made a really good point in 3248 about misty's comment on Mala - I am having a hard time squaring Misty's "Mala is scum and scum are bussing her" as a genuine, real, townie thought when Misty is not also indicating real support for a Mala lim. I'd almost prefer Misty over Mala solely on that point + me thinking the swap last night had to benefit scum in SOME fashion, but I am not going to derail the Mala wagon while it is leading.

I don't understand this top town ranking like at all, I TR Andres over Greeting, Andres is a doc claim, said he saved bell last night, no kill happened honestly I see no reason for maf to not try and kill town reads off, the doc claim is probably real, maf isn't killing andres cause so many people sr him?? not sure, but I don't like these reads AT ALL

[Andante]

like, you feel confident mala and misty are maf? the 2 low posters are maf? and you're confident in it??

[Andante]

probly 4 of these 5:

Dwlee99
Enchant
Titus
Mala
Strange

why is Dwlee in this list

the other four are fine as POE scummy picks but Dwlee does not belong in this group unless you have good points against them

all your posts with like pooky and dwlee are odd, like, pooky said some stuff that makes me think he has the same thoughts on dwlee as me, you think Dwlee has been towny this game? GL, I'd LOVE for you to show me the posts that make you go "dwlee does not belong in this group"

[GuiltyLion]

I don't understand this top town ranking like at all, I TR Andres over Greeting, Andres is a doc claim, said he saved bell last night, no kill happened honestly I see no reason for maf to not try and kill town reads off, the doc claim is probably real, maf isn't killing andres cause so many people sr him?? not sure, but I don't like these reads AT ALL

Doc claim doesn't mean a whole lot to me in a game this large

also I'm not

not

townreading Andres, I just am not as confident as I currently am in the higher tier

why should I not TR Greeting? Haven't seen anything disingenuous in their posts at all and several instances of a lack of mech awareness that indicates uninformed alignment

and yeah I'm currently reading Misty/Mala maf - I highlighted things I thought each of them did that were scummy in my string of posts preceding and I have absolutely nothing from either of them that has struck me as town-indicative

also "confidence" is a relative term there, I'm not saying confidence as an absolute "yes I'd bet the game on these reads" but rather they're more confident than the blob in the middle.

[GuiltyLion]

all your posts with like pooky and dwlee are odd, like, pooky said some stuff that makes me think he has the same thoughts on dwlee as me, you think Dwlee has been towny this game? GL, I'd LOVE for you to show me the posts that make you go "dwlee does not belong in this group"

Mainly Dwlee has been active and pushing a lot of their own reads/opinions whereas the other 4 I really struggle to remember significant stances they've taken

Dwlee's attitude does not vibe to me like one that is trying to be townread, one that is avoiding conflict or coasting. My impression of Dwlee's scum game is more centered around being inoffensive and difficult to find reasons scumread. Dwlee here doesn't care about either of those things, I think they earnestly believe in what they're pushing, especially with the off the grain reads like scum!Andante early game or the random CSF scumread

also like... you should think about the

actual reasoning

I gave on Pooky and respond to that, not just "he agrees with me on Dwlee... TOWN!!" - bad read there Andante

[Andante]

lol ok I'm not doing this right now, I'll give you a wall response later

[GuiltyLion]

yep I'd love a more fleshed out explanation of why Pooky is town here

[GuiltyLion]

especially when I just called out a specific post where I think he's buddying you

[Andante]

not once have I argued pooky town here

[GuiltyLion]

all your posts with like pooky and dwlee are odd, like, pooky said some stuff that makes me think he has the same thoughts on dwlee as me, you think Dwlee has been towny this game? GL, I'd LOVE for you to show me the posts that make you go "dwlee does not belong in this group"

this suggested to me that you townread Pooky explicitly because he agreed with your read on Dwlee.

if you're not townreading Pooky then why are you grilling me for calling out how Pooky has skeevy reasoning to shade Dwlee, lumping Dwlee in with non-posters and also doing gotcha logic on them?

[GuiltyLion]

like I don't know how you read the Dwlee-Pooky Dialogues on pages 125-128 or whatever and come away with the take that Dwlee is the scummier one there when Pooky is instigating a scumread on Dwlee over NAI weaksauce points and Dwlee is doing nothing manipulative just rebuffing it without any noticeable fear or fake reasoning

[StrangeMatter]

GuiltyLion can you explain your Cephrir read? I'm in stumped on reading them and I wanna know why you're townreading him.

[StrangeMatter]

Also, I want you to explain your read on me because right now I just cannot think of how people just haven't leaned either way on a slot like mine this far into a game.

[Cephrir]

I'm not sure I actually understand why strange is such a popular scumread tbh. She doesnt have a ton of charisma but is there anything actually scummy going on there?

[Titus]

thanks for caring!!!

ahhh like, titus and mala, we need something from yall.. if I had to guess 1 is likely town other maf, i just wanna lim a maf here!!! but like I TR the people talking (mostly)

Hmph, don't like this. Could chain us both while getting no info

[Titus]

Greeting defended Frog instinctively in the PT and were shamed for it. There’s no world where they’re Scum. They never needed to do that and could have kept feeding the paranoia around Frog. I TR Andante for their contributions and focus on certain players. And I am in fact trusting catboi’s analysis on Bell.

I am being pushed by too many players and my claim doubted too widely for me to have anyone else as solidly Town. For the record.

This is a load of crap. Anyone can guess if not sort a fair push on them.

He CCs flipped town. He cut day short when I was catching up to prevent me from obvtowning.