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Post Post #4175 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:45 am

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vote count 4.07
  • with
    13
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  • day 4 ends in
    (expired on 2022-04-21 14:00:00)
    .
  • 3
    players who have the most nominations will be bomb experts on n4.

execution:


StrangeMatter [5]:
GuiltyLion, VP Baltar, Menalque, PookyTheMagicalBear, Dwlee99
Dwlee99 [2]:
StrangeMatter, Andante
Mistyx [1]:
Cephrir
VP Baltar [1]:
Mistyx

not voting [4]:
Titus, Enchant, Cat Scratch Fever, Bell


bomb expert nominations:


Cephrir [6]:
GuiltyLion, VP Baltar, Cat Scratch Fever, PookyTheMagicalBear, Bell, Menalque
Titus [6]:
PookyTheMagicalBear, Cephrir, VP Baltar, Andante, Dwlee99, Enchant
PookyTheMagicalBear [4]:
Bell, GuiltyLion, Menalque, Cat Scratch Fever
Cat Scratch Fever [4]:
GuiltyLion, VP Baltar, Cephrir, PookyTheMagicalBear
Andante [4]:
Cat Scratch Fever, Dwlee99, Bell, Enchant
Enchant [3]:
Menalque, Andante, Dwlee99

not nominating [3]:
Mistyx, Titus, StrangeMatter

ineligible to be nominated:
Bell, Mistyx, GuiltyLion, VP Baltar, Dwlee99, StrangeMatter


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  • Menalque v/la weekends.
  • Menalque v/la until thursday.
  • the vote counter is acting weird and i'm counting votes by hand, let me know if i make any mistakes.
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Post Post #4176 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:52 am

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In post 4081, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 4058, Menalque wrote:HEAL: enchant
HEAL: pooky
HEAL: bell

I’d like to go tomorrow with CSF and ceph
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Why not today
I’m busy having the absolute worst vacation of my life
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Post Post #4177 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:53 am

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Ok I skimmed to page 2 in the ISO and generally townread both Dwlee and VP.

There's a couple things I want to check.

1) See if Dwlee or VP or SM was in the hood with Frogster to create his implosion. I am not sure that's required as scum could naturally just take advantage.

Two the votes. I saw VP voted Mala early. Dwlee did and immediately changed his mind. Without context, that's a bit worrying.
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Post Post #4178 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:53 am

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To be clear: not even a hint of irony there

It’s been honestly awful, and once I get home I’m going to be wrapping myself in a blanket and trying to forget

Also, I’d really like to go with GL
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Post Post #4179 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:54 am

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Irony, sarcasm, you know what I mean
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Post Post #4180 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:54 am

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Valencia should be burned to the ground
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Post Post #4181 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:55 am

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Post Post #4182 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:55 am

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In post 4177, Titus wrote:1) See if Dwlee or VP or SM was in the hood with Frogster to create his implosion. I am not sure that's required as scum could naturally just take advantage.
I'm the only alive member of the frogster hood. rest are dead towns
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Post Post #4183 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:56 am

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In post 991, Datisi wrote:
vote count 1.07
  • with
    19
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    10
    to make a decision.
  • day 1 ends in
    (expired on 2022-04-06 19:15:00)
    .
  • 8
    players who have the most nominations at eod1 will be bomb experts on n1.

execution:


fireisredsir [4]:
Bell, Menalque, Dwlee99, Malakittens
Morning Tweet [4]:
Cephrir, fireisredsir, GuiltyLion, Titus
VP Baltar [3]:
Frogsterking, PookyTheMagicalBear, Cat Scratch Fever
GuiltyLion [1]:
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Cephrir [1]:
Greeting
Frogsterking [1]:
StrangeMatter
StrangeMatter [1]:
VP Baltar

not voting [5]:
Andresvmb, Dwlee99, Andante, catboi, The Bulge


bomb expert nominations:


Andante [9]:
Menalque, Malakittens, Titus, PookyTheMagicalBear, fireisredsir, Cephrir, Morning Tweet, GuiltyLion, VP Baltar
Greeting [8]:
catboi, Cephrir, Morning Tweet, PookyTheMagicalBear, fireisredsir, GuiltyLion, Bell, VP Baltar
Frogsterking [7]:
Titus, VP Baltar, Malakittens, PookyTheMagicalBear, Morning Tweet, Greeting, GuiltyLion
Malakittens [4]:
The Bulge, Menalque, Frogsterking, PookyTheMagicalBear
catboi [4]:
VP Baltar, PookyTheMagicalBear, Bell, fireisredsir
Dwlee99 [3]:
VP Baltar, Titus, Cephrir
Cat Scratch Fever [3]:
PookyTheMagicalBear, GuiltyLion, Frogsterking
Morning Tweet [2]:
Malakittens, Greeting
Titus [2]:
Malakittens, PookyTheMagicalBear
Cephrir [2]:
Titus, Frogsterking
StrangeMatter [2]:
Frogsterking, Greeting
PookyTheMagicalBear [2]:
Andante, Cephrir
GuiltyLion [1]:
Malakittens
Menalque [1]:
GuiltyLion

not nominating [4]:
Andresvmb, Dwlee99, StrangeMatter, Cat Scratch Fever


mod notes:
  • the vote counter is acting weird and i'm counting votes by hand, let me know if i make any mistakes.
  • fingers crossed i manage to get a different vote counter working today...
Evidence against Dwlee scum. Smaller evidence against VP scum. Null on SM
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Post Post #4184 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:57 am

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In post 4178, Menalque wrote:To be clear: not even a hint of irony there

It’s been honestly awful, and once I get home I’m going to be wrapping myself in a blanket and trying to forget

Also, I’d really like to go with GL
:( I'm really sorry

And about to, cuz you think he's town?
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Post Post #4185 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:57 am

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Andante are you ignoring me?
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Post Post #4186 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:57 am

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Post Post #4187 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:57 am

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how is a mid day VC evidence against people being scum?
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Post Post #4188 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:58 am

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In post 4185, GuiltyLion wrote:Andante are you ignoring me?
what am I ignoring?
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Post Post #4189 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:58 am

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In post 4184, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 4178, Menalque wrote:To be clear: not even a hint of irony there

It’s been honestly awful, and once I get home I’m going to be wrapping myself in a blanket and trying to forget

Also, I’d really like to go with GL
:( I'm really sorry

And about to, cuz you think he's town?
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Post Post #4190 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:58 am

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In post 4171, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 4148, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 4113, Andante wrote:right... isn't that an issue for D5? you wait for me to come in here yelling the explosion death isn't my fault? Titus wants a hood to solve in, many people here are good with giving Titus a hood to solve in. The question is just "with who?" I'm totally good with solving with Titus. I need to reconsider my reads, I also would like to solve in a hood, so as long as titus isn't gonna be too busy with RL... I'm down!!! but we need a 3rd, and given my options, I prefer Enchant, enchant has some knowledge and wisdom I'd love to hear, so I really do want enchant as the third. I was literally having a good conversation with enchant here, not sure why you suddenly think I'm pulling names out of thin aire....
why not Cephrir or Pooky for third?
In post 4111, Andante wrote:I've been loving talking to enchant today
can you point me to the dialogue with Enchant that you enjoyed?
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Post Post #4191 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:58 am

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In post 1625, Datisi wrote:
vote count 1.12
  • with
    19
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    10
    to make a decision.
  • day 1 ends in
    (expired on 2022-04-06 19:15:00)
    .
  • 8
    players who have the most nominations at eod1 will be bomb experts on n1.

execution:


fireisredsir [5]:
Bell, Menalque, Malakittens, catboi, Dwlee99
Morning Tweet [4]:
Cephrir, fireisredsir, GuiltyLion, Titus
VP Baltar [2]:
PookyTheMagicalBear, Cat Scratch Fever
GuiltyLion [2]:
Morning Tweet, Greeting
StrangeMatter [2]:
VP Baltar, Frogsterking
Frogsterking [1]:
StrangeMatter
catboi [1]:
Enchant

not voting [3]:
Andresvmb, Andante


bomb expert nominations:


Andante [13]:
Menalque, Malakittens, fireisredsir, Cephrir, Morning Tweet, GuiltyLion, VP Baltar, Cat Scratch Fever, StrangeMatter, Bell, Enchant, Titus, Andresvmb
Greeting [12]:
catboi, Cephrir, Morning Tweet, PookyTheMagicalBear, fireisredsir, GuiltyLion, Bell, VP Baltar, StrangeMatter, Enchant, Dwlee99, Andresvmb
Frogsterking [9]:
Titus, VP Baltar, Malakittens, PookyTheMagicalBear, Morning Tweet, Greeting, GuiltyLion, Enchant, Andresvmb, Bell
catboi [9]:
VP Baltar, PookyTheMagicalBear, Bell, fireisredsir, Cat Scratch Fever, Andante, Cephrir, Enchant, Andresvmb
PookyTheMagicalBear [7]:
Andante, Cephrir, Cat Scratch Fever, Frogsterking, fireisredsir, Enchant, Greeting
Cat Scratch Fever [5]:
PookyTheMagicalBear, GuiltyLion, Frogsterking, Cephrir, Enchant
Dwlee99 [5]:
VP Baltar, Titus, Cephrir, Enchant, Andresvmb
Malakittens [4]:
Enchant, Menalque, Frogsterking, PookyTheMagicalBear
Cephrir [4]:
Titus, Frogsterking, Enchant, Dwlee99
StrangeMatter [4]:
Frogsterking, Greeting, Enchant, Andresvmb
Titus [4]:
Malakittens, PookyTheMagicalBear, Enchant, Andresvmb
Morning Tweet [3]:
Malakittens, Greeting, Enchant
GuiltyLion [3]:
Malakittens, Enchant, Bell
fireisredsir [2]:
Enchant, Andresvmb
Bell [2]:
Enchant, Cephrir
Menalque [2]:
GuiltyLion, Enchant
VP Baltar [2]:
Enchant, Dwlee99
Enchant [1]:
Dwlee99
Andresvmb [1]:
Enchant

not nominating [0]:


mod notes:
  • the vote counter is acting weird and i'm counting votes by hand, let me know if i make any mistakes.
Not relevant to the initial question but given how long these two wagons existed, I would like to flip both at some point.
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Post Post #4192 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:59 am

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I have since said I'm good being with Cephrir, and rest of that im ignoring yeah
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Post Post #4193 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:59 am

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In post 4191, Titus wrote:Not relevant to the initial question but given how long these two wagons existed, I would like to flip both at some point.
flip both what?? fire is already flipped
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Post Post #4194 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:02 am

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VOTE: Titus
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Post Post #4195 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:03 am

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In post 4183, Titus wrote:
In post 991, Datisi wrote:
vote count 1.07
  • with
    19
    votes in play, it takes
    10
    to make a decision.
  • day 1 ends in
    (expired on 2022-04-06 19:15:00)
    .
  • 8
    players who have the most nominations at eod1 will be bomb experts on n1.

execution:


fireisredsir [4]:
Bell, Menalque, Dwlee99, Malakittens
Morning Tweet [4]:
Cephrir, fireisredsir, GuiltyLion, Titus
VP Baltar [3]:
Frogsterking, PookyTheMagicalBear, Cat Scratch Fever
GuiltyLion [1]:
Morning Tweet
Cephrir [1]:
Greeting
Frogsterking [1]:
StrangeMatter
StrangeMatter [1]:
VP Baltar

not voting [5]:
Andresvmb, Dwlee99, Andante, catboi, The Bulge


bomb expert nominations:


Andante [9]:
Menalque, Malakittens, Titus, PookyTheMagicalBear, fireisredsir, Cephrir, Morning Tweet, GuiltyLion, VP Baltar
Greeting [8]:
catboi, Cephrir, Morning Tweet, PookyTheMagicalBear, fireisredsir, GuiltyLion, Bell, VP Baltar
Frogsterking [7]:
Titus, VP Baltar, Malakittens, PookyTheMagicalBear, Morning Tweet, Greeting, GuiltyLion
Malakittens [4]:
The Bulge, Menalque, Frogsterking, PookyTheMagicalBear
catboi [4]:
VP Baltar, PookyTheMagicalBear, Bell, fireisredsir
Dwlee99 [3]:
VP Baltar, Titus, Cephrir
Cat Scratch Fever [3]:
PookyTheMagicalBear, GuiltyLion, Frogsterking
Morning Tweet [2]:
Malakittens, Greeting
Titus [2]:
Malakittens, PookyTheMagicalBear
Cephrir [2]:
Titus, Frogsterking
StrangeMatter [2]:
Frogsterking, Greeting
PookyTheMagicalBear [2]:
Andante, Cephrir
GuiltyLion [1]:
Malakittens
Menalque [1]:
GuiltyLion

not nominating [4]:
Andresvmb, Dwlee99, StrangeMatter, Cat Scratch Fever


mod notes:
  • the vote counter is acting weird and i'm counting votes by hand, let me know if i make any mistakes.
  • fingers crossed i manage to get a different vote counter working today...
Evidence against Dwlee scum. Smaller evidence against VP scum. Null on SM

@Adante,

Dwlee and Malakittens are both on the same wagon at about the same time. While it's rare to overload a wagon like that. A common situation to do that is that fire had correct reads. However, fire's wagon largely existed due to the prior holder, so that's not possible. Another alternative is desperate scum forcing a town wagon. That might be true but isn't really consistent with the game state I feel.

VP being an alternate wagon choice suggests not scum. However, there are four wagons which easily allows for two wagons on scum.
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Post Post #4196 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:04 am

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In post 4193, Andante wrote:
In post 4191, Titus wrote:Not relevant to the initial question but given how long these two wagons existed, I would like to flip both at some point.
flip both what?? fire is already flipped
I would have seen that when reviewing my notes. Usually I color the VCs but I am on limited time and forgot fire flipped. Flipping Morning Tweet would give a lot of context to the game at that point.
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Post Post #4197 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:05 am

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In post 4192, Andante wrote:I have since said I'm good being with Cephrir, and rest of that im ignoring yeah
ok, well then I'll make my position clear, I looked at your conversation with Enchant and I think you saying you've been "loving" talking with him today is a weird remark and doesn't feel very genuine to me
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Post Post #4198 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:06 am

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In post 1751, Datisi wrote:
vote count 1.13.5
  • with
    19
    votes in play, it takes
    10
    to make a decision.
  • day 1 ends in
    (expired on 2022-04-06 19:15:00)
    .
  • 8
    players who have the most nominations at eod1 will be bomb experts on n1.

execution:


fireisredsir [7]:
Bell, Menalque, Malakittens, catboi, Dwlee99, Cat Scratch Fever, Frogsterking
Mistyx [4]:
Cephrir, fireisredsir, GuiltyLion, Titus
VP Baltar [1]:
PookyTheMagicalBear
GuiltyLion [1]:
Mistyx
StrangeMatter [1]:
VP Baltar
Frogsterking [1]:
StrangeMatter
catboi [1]:
Enchant
Menalque [1]:
Andante

not voting [2]:
Andresvmb, Greeting


bomb expert nominations:


Andante [13]:
Menalque, Malakittens, fireisredsir, Cephrir, Mistyx, GuiltyLion, VP Baltar, Cat Scratch Fever, StrangeMatter, Bell, Enchant, Titus, Andresvmb
Greeting [12]:
catboi, Cephrir, Mistyx, PookyTheMagicalBear, fireisredsir, GuiltyLion, Bell, VP Baltar, StrangeMatter, Enchant, Dwlee99, Andresvmb
Frogsterking [9]:
Titus, VP Baltar, Malakittens, PookyTheMagicalBear, Mistyx, Greeting, GuiltyLion, Enchant, Andresvmb, Bell
catboi [9]:
VP Baltar, PookyTheMagicalBear, Bell, fireisredsir, Cat Scratch Fever, Andante, Cephrir, Enchant, Andresvmb
PookyTheMagicalBear [7]:
Andante, Cephrir, Cat Scratch Fever, Frogsterking, fireisredsir, Enchant, Greeting
Cat Scratch Fever [6]:
PookyTheMagicalBear, GuiltyLion, Frogsterking, Cephrir, Enchant, Bell
Dwlee99 [5]:
VP Baltar, Titus, Cephrir, Enchant, Andresvmb
Cephrir [4]:
Titus, Enchant, Dwlee99, Andante
Malakittens [4]:
Enchant, Menalque, Frogsterking, PookyTheMagicalBear
StrangeMatter [4]:
Frogsterking, Greeting, Enchant, Andresvmb
Titus [4]:
Malakittens, PookyTheMagicalBear, Enchant, Andresvmb
Mistyx [3]:
Malakittens, Greeting, Enchant
GuiltyLion [3]:
Malakittens, Enchant, Bell
Menalque [3]:
GuiltyLion, Enchant, Bell
fireisredsir [2]:
Enchant, Andresvmb
Bell [2]:
Enchant, Cephrir
VP Baltar [2]:
Enchant, Dwlee99
Enchant [2]:
Dwlee99, Frogsterking
Andresvmb [1]:
Enchant

not nominating [0]:


mod notes:
  • Menalque v/la weekends.
  • the vote counter is acting weird and i'm counting votes by hand, let me know if i make any mistakes.
In post 1875, Datisi wrote:
vote count 1.14
  • with
    19
    votes in play, it takes
    10
    to make a decision.
  • day 1 ends in
    (expired on 2022-04-06 19:15:00)
    .
  • 8
    players who have the most nominations at eod1 will be bomb experts on n1.

execution:


fireisredsir [5]:
Bell, Menalque, Malakittens, catboi, Dwlee99
Andresvmb [5]:
Frogsterking, VP Baltar, Cat Scratch Fever, Mistyx, fireisredsir
Mistyx [4]:
Cephrir, GuiltyLion, Titus, Andante
VP Baltar [1]:
PookyTheMagicalBear
Frogsterking [1]:
StrangeMatter
catboi [1]:
Enchant

not voting [2]:
Andresvmb, Greeting


bomb expert nominations:


Andante [13]:
Menalque, Malakittens, fireisredsir, Cephrir, Mistyx, GuiltyLion, VP Baltar, Cat Scratch Fever, StrangeMatter, Bell, Enchant, Titus, Andresvmb
Greeting [12]:
catboi, Cephrir, Mistyx, PookyTheMagicalBear, fireisredsir, GuiltyLion, Bell, VP Baltar, StrangeMatter, Enchant, Dwlee99, Andresvmb
Frogsterking [9]:
Titus, VP Baltar, Malakittens, PookyTheMagicalBear, Mistyx, Greeting, GuiltyLion, Enchant, Andresvmb, Bell
catboi [9]:
VP Baltar, PookyTheMagicalBear, Bell, fireisredsir, Cat Scratch Fever, Andante, Cephrir, Enchant, Andresvmb
PookyTheMagicalBear [7]:
Andante, Cephrir, Cat Scratch Fever, Frogsterking, fireisredsir, Enchant, Greeting
Cat Scratch Fever [6]:
PookyTheMagicalBear, GuiltyLion, Frogsterking, Cephrir, Enchant, Bell
Dwlee99 [5]:
VP Baltar, Titus, Cephrir, Enchant, Andresvmb
Cephrir [4]:
Titus, Enchant, Dwlee99, Andante
Malakittens [4]:
Enchant, Menalque, Frogsterking, PookyTheMagicalBear
StrangeMatter [4]:
Frogsterking, Greeting, Enchant, Andresvmb
Titus [4]:
Malakittens, PookyTheMagicalBear, Enchant, Andresvmb
Mistyx [3]:
Malakittens, Greeting, Enchant
GuiltyLion [3]:
Malakittens, Enchant, Bell
Menalque [3]:
GuiltyLion, Enchant, Bell
fireisredsir [2]:
Enchant, Andresvmb
Bell [2]:
Enchant, Cephrir
VP Baltar [2]:
Enchant, Dwlee99
Enchant [2]:
Dwlee99, Frogsterking
Andresvmb [1]:
Enchant

not nominating [0]:


mod notes:
  • Menalque v/la weekends.
  • the vote counter is acting weird and i'm counting votes by hand, let me know if i make any mistakes.
Mistyx has very high odds of being scum. Fire wagon dying. Andres wagon emerging.

A similar pattern occurred in the mini normal I just finished.
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Post Post #4199 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:07 am

Post by Andante »

Dwlee and/or strange need to go. I was looking back at catboi stuff. he had them both as scum. and his reads were poe based, like, had CSF in null and yeah I've had weird feelings about CSF here

can people just vote enchant and I for expert? plz and ty
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