Open 848: Chromavalon: A Bouquet of Colors [Game Over]

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Post Post #875 (ISO) » Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:17 pm

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butterflies
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Enchant
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furtiveglance
fireisredsir
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[ELIMINATED]
furtiveglance
[5]
butterflies, ItalianoVD, Titus, fireisredsir, Enchant
implosion
[0]

ItalianoVD
[0]

Noraa
[0]

Scorpious
[0]

Titus
[0]


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5
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Not Voting:
implosion, Noraa, Scorpious
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Henri Fantin-Latour,
Roses and Lilies
(1888)


Ceaselessly, the Artist worked. Brushstrokes and dried paint, flecks of the stuff dappling his face and clothes with a kaleidoscope of genius. He could feel it flow through him - his Muses, his artistry, his creative force. Yes -
yes
- this was it.

He was onto something. It was not yet finished. But this canvas stained with only the reds and blues and yellows of his palette spoke to him in a way the ones before had not. It was as primal as it was basic, simplistic without being plain.

When night fell, satisfaction gave way to exhaustion. Was this mad day of painting justified, or was the Artist a fool? Tomorrow’s dew would judge.


furtiveglance, aligned with
Mafia
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Night 2 begins. Privately message me if you would like fast night, and night will end early on unanimity.
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Post Post #876 (ISO) » Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:45 pm

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Odilon Redon,
White Vase with Flowers
(1916)


Like ash in his mouth, the Artist’s goodwill from yesterday evaporated in the sluicing morning rays. He felt groggy, hungover despite not drinking. Blinking away the lingering malaise, he rolled over onto his palette and got to work immediately.

But nothing happened. The inspiration had faded. His Muses struggled to feed him creativity. Breakfast - of course. Who could paint on an empty stomach? Uneasily, he decided that was the answer to his woes. It had to be.


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Day 3 begins!


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Enchant
[0]

fireisredsir
[0]

implosion
[0]

ItalianoVD
[0]

Noraa
[0]

Scorpious
[0]

Titus
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With
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4
to eliminate.

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everyone

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Post Post #877 (ISO) » Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:02 pm

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well, if butterflies was completely wrong on the rest of their solve, i see no reason for maf to kill them, considering they would do everything they can to push those lims through.

so, i think they were likely right on at least one of enchant and umlaut (now scorpious)

if they were right on both, then maf only really has hope of winning by finding the muses, so muses should be careful, since we likely won't need their info to win and anything to reveal would only hurt town. that's only in the case where both enchant and scorpious are maf, though, there are other possibilities

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Post Post #878 (ISO) » Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:28 pm

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Post Post #879 (ISO) » Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:34 pm

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In post 871, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 866, furtiveglance wrote:I will say goodbye then before this gets locked. Thanks to numberQ for modding, this is a cool setup. Peace
Sounds like scum giving up. Don’t think a townie would give up like that, especially given the context of his play today.
This post was made in twilight, so I’m really confused..
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Post Post #880 (ISO) » Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:13 pm

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too bad my shade couldnt save them
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Post Post #881 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:04 am

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Oh dang I had no idea this was up. I thought we still had more time.
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Post Post #882 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:11 am

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But yeah, I’m pretty sure that was as obvious of a flip and night action anyone has ever seen. It was obvious to me that furtive was scum. Just happy we didn’t kill off another innocent.
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Post Post #883 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:12 am

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In post 877, fireisredsir wrote:if they were right on both, then maf only really has hope of winning by finding the muses, so muses should be careful, since we likely won't need their info to win and anything to reveal would only hurt town. that's only in the case where both enchant and scorpious are maf, though, there are other possibilities
I agree with this. No more fishing for muses.
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Post Post #884 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:16 am

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This game is pretty set at this point. I’m also pretty set on the solve, although I think it could possibly be Titus if it’s not Enchant or Umlaut/Scorpius.

But I don’t think Titus is who we go for before Enchant and Umlaut/Scorpius imo. Enchant first, then Umlaut/Scorpius, then Titus if the game isn’t over by then. Anything else is foolish and let’s not try to be Einsteins.
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Post Post #885 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:17 am

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In post 879, Scorpious wrote:
In post 871, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 866, furtiveglance wrote:I will say goodbye then before this gets locked. Thanks to numberQ for modding, this is a cool setup. Peace
Sounds like scum giving up. Don’t think a townie would give up like that, especially given the context of his play today.
This post was made in twilight, so I’m really confused..
Confused about what?
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Post Post #886 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 6:13 am

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In post 885, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 879, Scorpious wrote:
In post 871, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 866, furtiveglance wrote:I will say goodbye then before this gets locked. Thanks to numberQ for modding, this is a cool setup. Peace
Sounds like scum giving up. Don’t think a townie would give up like that, especially given the context of his play today.
This post was made in twilight, so I’m really confused..
Confused about what?
You jumped on someone for “giving up”.. they were already limmed .

What would be your town motivation for doing that?
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Post Post #887 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 6:14 am

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In post 882, ItalianoVD wrote:But yeah, I’m pretty sure that was as obvious of a flip and night action anyone has ever seen. It was obvious to me that furtive was scum. Just happy we didn’t kill off another innocent.

This is a lie based on your post-hammer comment.

You didn’t know… it wasn’t obvious to you..
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Post Post #888 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 6:16 am

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In post 877, fireisredsir wrote:well, if butterflies was completely wrong on the rest of their solve, i see no reason for maf to kill them, considering they would do everything they can to push those lims through.

so, i think they were likely right on at least one of enchant and umlaut (now scorpious)

if they were right on both, then maf only really has hope of winning by finding the muses, so muses should be careful, since we likely won't need their info to win and anything to reveal would only hurt town. that's only in the case where both enchant and scorpious are maf, though, there are other possibilities

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By this logic though. This game is completely unbalanced barring a d1 scum flip(which happened). And I don’t see a game being so one sided..
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Post Post #889 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 6:47 am

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In post 888, Scorpious wrote:By this logic though. This game is completely unbalanced barring a d1 scum flip(which happened). And I don’t see a game being so one sided..
what

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Post Post #890 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 7:06 am

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In post 889, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 888, Scorpious wrote:By this logic though. This game is completely unbalanced barring a d1 scum flip(which happened). And I don’t see a game being so one sided..
what

expand on this
Well, unless I’m reading this entirely wrong, which is always a possibility. You are saying for the muses to “be careful”. With them and scum being the only ones that know who scum is, I feel like they should NOT be careful and discuss freely. Some of us don’t know anything and are reliant on the - would it be “TMI” in this case from the muses..

My point is, if the muses just play like normal VT’s and tip toe around they can be withholding vital info from the uninformed crowd that has no pre given info. And if that’s how the setup is intended to be played I feel the game would be rendered one sided based on the d1 maf flip…

Your logic read to me as “just stay quiet, we have this figured out.. GG scum”

Which again, I could be wrong..
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Post Post #891 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 7:15 am

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im saying that if we've already solved the game, muses have no reason to out themselves by confirming that, and we can just keep going in the direction we're going and it will get confirmed by the flips

if we are way off, then the muses may need to exert some influence, but still should be careful not to out

maf didn't flip d1, that was d2

in which direction are you saying the setup is one-sided? town-sided or maf-sided?
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Post Post #892 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 7:46 am

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D2 my fault..
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Post Post #893 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 7:48 am

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In post 886, Scorpious wrote:
In post 885, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 879, Scorpious wrote:
In post 871, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 866, furtiveglance wrote:I will say goodbye then before this gets locked. Thanks to numberQ for modding, this is a cool setup. Peace
Sounds like scum giving up. Don’t think a townie would give up like that, especially given the context of his play today.
This post was made in twilight, so I’m really confused..
Confused about what?
You jumped on someone for “giving up”.. they were already limmed .

What would be your town motivation for doing that?
Now I’m confused. Jumped on? I was already voting him and that comment just moreso solidified my feelings. Town motivation? Again you’re gonna have elaborate on that because I’m lost.
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Post Post #894 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 7:50 am

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In post 891, fireisredsir wrote:im saying that if we've already solved the game, muses have no reason to out themselves by confirming that, and we can just keep going in the direction we're going and it will get confirmed by the flips

if we are way off, then the muses may need to exert some influence, but still should be careful not to out

maf didn't flip d1, that was d2

in which direction are you saying the setup is one-sided? town-sided or maf-sided?
It feels like a caught scum greatly enhances the odds for town I’m this setup to ultimately end up
At the scenario you are describing.

Which as I write it and read seems more like a more common idea. Like “of course catching maf increases chances”
Idk, I’m just trying to fall into the game here.
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Post Post #895 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 7:52 am

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In post 893, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 886, Scorpious wrote:
In post 885, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 879, Scorpious wrote:
In post 871, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 866, furtiveglance wrote:I will say goodbye then before this gets locked. Thanks to numberQ for modding, this is a cool setup. Peace
Sounds like scum giving up. Don’t think a townie would give up like that, especially given the context of his play today.
This post was made in twilight, so I’m really confused..
Confused about what?
You jumped on someone for “giving up”.. they were already limmed .

What would be your town motivation for doing that?
Now I’m confused. Jumped on? I was already voting him and that comment just moreso solidified my feelings. Town motivation? Again you’re gonna have elaborate on that because I’m lost.
You said this after the hammer. We’re you not aware they had been hammered.

Their post you quoted was them basically saying “aight, ima head out”, and you responded with see a townie wouldn’t say this. We’re you just commenting on twilight or did you not know the hammer dropped?
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Post Post #896 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 7:52 am

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In post 887, Scorpious wrote:
In post 882, ItalianoVD wrote:But yeah, I’m pretty sure that was as obvious of a flip and night action anyone has ever seen. It was obvious to me that furtive was scum. Just happy we didn’t kill off another innocent.

This is a lie based on your post-hammer comment.

You didn’t know… it wasn’t obvious to you..
Not a lie. I said what I said and meant it. Don’t try to think for me. Furtive’s comment felt like it was coming from scum, not from town. Where is the town inspiration in his comment?
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Post Post #897 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 7:55 am

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In post 896, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 887, Scorpious wrote:
In post 882, ItalianoVD wrote:But yeah, I’m pretty sure that was as obvious of a flip and night action anyone has ever seen. It was obvious to me that furtive was scum. Just happy we didn’t kill off another innocent.

This is a lie based on your post-hammer comment.

You didn’t know… it wasn’t obvious to you..
Not a lie. I said what I said and meant it. Don’t try to think for me. Furtive’s comment felt like it was coming from scum, not from town. Where is the town inspiration in his comment?
I defer to my question above
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Post Post #898 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 8:05 am

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In post 894, Scorpious wrote:It feels like a caught scum greatly enhances the odds for town I’m this setup to ultimately end up
At the scenario you are describing.

Which as I write it and read seems more like a more common idea. Like “of course catching maf increases chances”
Idk, I’m just trying to fall into the game here.
yeah, that's fine, i get it. in this case it really doesn't have much to do with the setup i feel, it's just that butterflies had a clear solve that they were pounding home, most people have those people in their poe at least if not their top suspicions, the first of the 3 in the solve flipped scum, and butterflies died. so it's more due to the current state of the game than the setup
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Post Post #899 (ISO) » Wed Apr 13, 2022 8:27 am

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In post 877, fireisredsir wrote:well, if butterflies was completely wrong on the rest of their solve, i see no reason for maf to kill them, considering they would do everything they can to push those lims through.

so, i think they were likely right on at least one of enchant and umlaut (now scorpious)

if they were right on both, then maf only really has hope of winning by finding the muses, so muses should be careful, since we likely won't need their info to win and anything to reveal would only hurt town. that's only in the case where both enchant and scorpious are maf, though, there are other possibilities

hi scorpious!
I generally agree with all this.

I'm probably going to be generally pretty busy IRL for the rest of this game (for the next month). I should definitely have time but might not be super engaged outside weekends.

That said I don't really feel like in-depth examination today will be helpful beyond what fire has said here.
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