Micro 1052: Lake Melancholy [END]

[Dwlee99]

Updated reads:
Okay fire's point on me feels not made up as in they actually believe it even though I find the premise (that I should have a specific post in mind for "VP doing stuff" before asserting that he would do stuff) wrong.

I'll go with keeping my prism and cephrir reads as is

I don't really scumread skitter anymore: not that I townread her but meh

I think Aristeia is town or will be solved later

I'll go with the level zero enchant read that prism posited because Enchant isn't overtly scummy here

This would leave both scum in here

skitter30
VP Baltar
Datisi

If I'm right I get a cookie

[Dwlee99]

As a team solve it'd be Datisi with one of VP/Skitter unless they're doing bussing shenanigans. This is mostly so if I happen to be right I can pretend I'm good and the reads totally weren't a fluke

[Prism]

ok but I'm literally not pushing a teamread. so I don't understand her criticism because the very basis of it is wrong.

right now I think the scum team is exactly skitter/prism

maybe not final, no force, therefore not teamread nor push

but wonder why think teampush

[Shuichi Saihara]

I'll go with keeping my prism and cephrir reads as is

Are you telling me that neither of us has done anything you find more alignment indicative than whatever each of us did on the first 2 pages?

[Aristeia]

these are the posts I made about skitter/prism:




I am very tempted to push Prism just on the mech alone.[I do not think it makes sense to have a Town!Ascetic with a Town Novice Mailman]

I find Skitter to be the most likely partner to Prism due to her reaction to the mech revelation felt handwavey.

However I don't like playing games solely based on mech because I can be wrong and it's just not interesting or fun.

I recognize that if I hardshove Prism atp due to mech and try to force the issue it can give scum an area to hide in if Prism is town and make the game difficult to win - I would not derive any significant pleasure from catching Prism!scum on d1 just off Mech.

I'd rather just play the game. The reason I floated the Skitter/Prism team is because I have a lot of respect for their scum!game and town!game and if we find ourselves at 5P, I want the players to keep in mind this possibility.

I do not expect I will survive to such a time.


I don't understand why Prism decided to shove me atp because.

(a) It's not very good for scum!her if she flips town me today(I don't think this will happen, but I guess it could be refuge in audacity)

(b) If town!her expects there to be a second ascetic in the game(a scum ascetic I am supposed to catch) then by necessity I would be NKed before I find such a scum player.

I feel like the best thing for the game state would be for me to simply ignore her for a while to let other things develop.

[Aristeia]

ok but I'm literally not pushing a teamread. so I don't understand her criticism because the very basis of it is wrong.

right now I think the scum team is exactly skitter/prism

maybe not final, no force, therefore not teamread nor push

but wonder why think teampush

because skitter explained your criticism of me as a teampush

[Prism]

FWIW Skitter's approach this game to me is scummy.

Her attempt to mediate me/Aristeia was actually missing some pieces, which could be a sign of malice or could be a sign of how disinterested people are and how hard my posts are to parse

At the end of the day she's seen me get into these 1v1s repeatedly and knows that my hitrate is quite high, even if they can be very annoying.

[Prism]

279 is kind of town but also incentivized as scum

w/e revisit later

[Aristeia]

ari post scumteam spec. ari fall flat.

lesson focus one at a time

ari post scum spec again. prism say maybe scum. ari say do as town still, just less force. it true, this game less force. why prism think scummy?

prism say maybe still scum. maybe town no spec team at all.

also tonal performative concern with 155

thank you <3

[skitter30]

At the end of the day she's seen me get into these 1v1s repeatedly and knows that my hitrate is quite high, even if they can be very annoying.

? Not sure i understand what you're saying

[Prism]

lmfao jesus christ

skitter what was the common theme of my play across 2181, slaughter hour, forest fire, etc...

[Prism]

I do have misses to be clear, early on in Forest Fire I was off on Hectic before going 2/2. Newbie 2084 Signs I was off completely.

[skitter30]

No, i'm aware that you tend to have a whole lot of 1v1s
I dont get what that fact has to so with how i should be reading u here

[Prism]

My point is that they have a very high rate of TvS but you have been content to mostly just skim and focus on other slots.

I get that Aristeia has a strong claim. I also thought 279 was +town. Simultaneously, she absolutely headhunts me if she thinks she can get away with it, the weird dichotomy of finding my argument+dayplay very scummy and refusing to vote me because "it'd be mechplay" is questionable, and some of the responses to me were clearly new distinctions. It wasn't hard to understand she was introducing a new nuance that wasn't in my original argument,

especially when she is the one introducing the added nuance

, but she acted like I was handing her Moby Dick.

[Aristeia]

I find you scummy but I expect you to be nightkilled if you're town so I don't feel any need to push you.

[Prism]

Like at the end of the day, it's not a galaxy brain genius move to claim Novice Mailman to get me voted out if she is in fact a Mafia Novice Mailman. If she's town there are several possible configurations that I don't think are worth speculating on right now. I'm not scumreading her for the claim.

[Aristeia]

If you're town I expect you to find the bad guys and kill them.

Yes I am a very demanding person who is unreasonable.

[skitter30]

Ok got it
I think this is a tvt argument and dont have much else to say abt it really

I dont think she picks this fight with u as scum. She absolutely would try to push u and flip u if she thinks she could get away with it, but i dont think this would be the reasoning she'd use, as its somewhat flimsy

I also understand why she's shying around the mechplay argument, vs i think scum-her would just push that if she thought it would be fruitful

I also think your understanding for how she'd approach this is wrong (and somewhat hard to follow) but i think you probably (?) believe it. Ot at least i dont really scumread you for it

I think its basically a tvt argument, and i'm just letting u play yourselves out so we can get to more interesting things, like whether vpb is scum

I also think that *all* the mech arguments are flimsy. People are gonna die, or not, we're probably not flipping either of u today, so honestly i dont find this very interestig

[Aristeia]

I don't think in the world that we're TvT, the scum are going to walk a tightrope and keep both of us alive because we're both fairly good at catching bad people.

Your focus on me is unhealthy for the game state and you should recognize that if you are in fact town here.

[Dwlee99]

I'll go with keeping my prism and cephrir reads as is

Are you telling me that neither of us has done anything you find more alignment indicative than whatever each of us did on the first 2 pages?

You've been continuing to play the same and I really do not know how to follow through on reading prism through all the mech etc. nonsense rn

[Prism]

Indeed, I would love to get nightkilled this game and just have you collect a universal townread as either alignment. Nothing could possibly go wrong.

Either way I do agree that I'm not making things easier by extended posting. I'll take a break from this game and commit to making my next set of posts being about other slots.

[Prism]

I don't really have a lot of thoughts on other slots skimming through. My biggest issue is with Skitter's very limited refereeing and involvement and engagement. That's a very adjacent can of worms.

Aristeia's track record of understanding me is a mixed bag, and they do in fact have trouble understanding elements of my pushes. Simultaneously, with our history known to her it should have been ridiculously straightforward and understandable, even if wrong, and I find it very difficult to think of several posts without working myself into a malding knot.

Hate waiting but I guess I should #dealwithit.

[skitter30]

I mean i'm not really sure what u expected me to be doing, but ok

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