I'm town btw.
In post 1474, jjh927 wrote:Mastina, how can your 'belief' that Dwlee fell for the fake E-1 conftown YOU?
Because,
-Scumbuddies are more likely to remember the role of their scumbuddies,
-I would have very specifically told Dwlee about the gambit,
-The gambit isn't timed correctly for me as Dwlee's scumbuddy but IS timed correctly for me as town,
-I don't think of moves like this as scum but have a
very fucking long history
of thinking of these sorts of moves as town,
-I literally wouldn't be able to so much as
think
of the gambit in the first place as scum because scumastina has a philosophy of KISS, keeping plans simple and not inventing extra steps to them.
In post 1474, jjh927 wrote:Like, you're saying that your belief in a thing makes it more likely that it conftowns you when that makes no sense as you're lying if you're scum.
Yeah and among my many scum skills, faking conviction is
not
among them. My strength as a scum player comes from genuine conviction in what I am saying to be true, or true enough.
So when it comes to the conviction involved, it's not whether it's real or not because it's
always
real.
It's more to do with how likely that conviction is to come from town vs how likely that conviction is to come from scum.
My belief that Dwlee hard-conftown'd four players is not conviction that comes from scum because scumastina doesn't think to conftown three players with herself as a fourth.
Like, genuinely, and this is something that will be revealed in more detail if I have the time to actually paraphrase my posting like I promised I would do earlier before this conversation got started, there's only so many players who could be scum.
Titus
LLD*
Frozen Angel
Shiro*
Roden**, Dwlee**
Enchant
Yume
jjh
*Conditional on the rez not rezzing the target as the rezzer's alignment and/or Shiro/LLD being nightkilled again
**Yes, claims mutually exclusive, will cross that bridge later
Titus is just conftown--there's no way she isn't.
LLD was so conftown the scumteam strongman killed her N1. The one and only way she
could
be scum is via a change in alignment post-revive. The mechanics of the rez being confirmed, Shiro's death, or LLD's death would all disprove this so while it's something to keep an eye on, for all intents and purposes, LLD is conftown because there's only one very very specific scenario where it would be possible so basically always town, about as town as I am. (Since I am town.)
Frozen Angel is town for literally dozens of reasons.
Shiro is technically not conftown for rezzing LLD, but the scum literally strongman killed LLD N1; why bring her back as scum? So, probably town.
{Roden, Dunnstral} has weird shenanigans going on but cannot be scum with Dwlee.
For one scum, that leaves {Echant, Yume, jjh}.
This is not belief I can fake up as scum; this solving is not something I have ever done before as scum and is the
pinnacle
of my townplay which you fucking KNOW.
The reason YOU are pushing me is because
you have no choice but to
. You fucking KNOW this is my towngame.
In post 1474, jjh927 wrote:I am saying it was theatre and that you could very easily have told Dwlee to 'self hammer' in the scum PT-
This is something that applies in theory and is valid play in theory but falls apart for
applying to me specifically
and the situation of the game thread.
You are arguing something you know is
possible
, ignoring how likely it is to be
plausible
, because you fucking know that you can get away with it.
And you are ignoring all the reasons for me to be town.
You ignored my claim basically in its entirety.
You ignored my night actions in their entirety.
You ignored all of my points about the neighborhood's actions and the (lack of) scum nightkills.
You are ignoring the points that are inconvenient to your narrative, in order to try and focus on the "weakest" parts of my argument and you are a fucking scumbag for it.
