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Post Post #625 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:20 am

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Post Post #626 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:21 am

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In post 133, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 120, Shuichi Saihara wrote:Novice mailman is a pretty strange role no doubt. Why is a mailman so good it needs to be nerfed?
it seems to me like a lot of closed setups have at least one role that on some level is "the mods messing with players who try to setup spec"
You have examples that come to mind for you?
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Post Post #627 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:22 am

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my cat just died i don't think me posting today is a thing that's gonna happen anymore
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Post Post #628 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:22 am

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In post 627, Shuichi Saihara wrote:my cat just died i don't think me posting today is a thing that's gonna happen anymore
mannnnn, I'm fucking sorry. That is terrible. Take care.
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Post Post #629 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:23 am

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oh no, i'm sorry :(
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Post Post #630 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:23 am

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Oh no, i'm so sorry :(
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Post Post #631 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:23 am

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In post 601, VP Baltar wrote:Enchant, can you clarify your intention with the "scumslip speedrun" post?
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Post Post #632 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:27 am

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In post 631, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 601, VP Baltar wrote:Enchant, can you clarify your intention with the "scumslip speedrun" post?
Gaming Style. I don't put much thought in it at start of game.
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Post Post #633 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:29 am

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In post 632, Enchant wrote:Gaming Style.
No idea what this us supposed to mean.

What I'm asking is did you have any outside hope scum might attack you or were you just making a joke for fun?
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Post Post #634 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:29 am

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I'm sorry ceph :(
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #635 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:30 am

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In post 620, Datisi wrote:
In post 388, Dwlee99 wrote:I am inclined to think Datisi is town right now
what made you think this
You posted
In post 623, Datisi wrote:
In post 275, Dwlee99 wrote:Okay fire's point on me feels not made up as in they actually believe it even though I find the premise (that I should have a specific post in mind for "VP doing stuff" before asserting that he would do stuff) wrong.
also is there anything specific that gave you the feels that he's Genuinely scumreading you?
It's the vibe y'know
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Post Post #636 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:30 am

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ahhh sorry ceph :(
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Post Post #637 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:31 am

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In post 633, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 632, Enchant wrote:Gaming Style.
No idea what this us supposed to mean.

What I'm asking is did you have any outside hope scum might attack you or were you just making a joke for fun?
It means no
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Post Post #638 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:31 am

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In post 633, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 632, Enchant wrote:Gaming Style.
No idea what this us supposed to mean.

What I'm asking is did you have any outside hope scum might attack you or were you just making a joke for fun?
Well in previous game mafia did shot me for joke.

So i consider self competent.
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Post Post #639 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:31 am

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scum!me is capable of typing letters and hitting submit so that's not exactly helpful

and i don't get the vibe so like

dwlee pls
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Post Post #640 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:32 am

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In post 626, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 133, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 120, Shuichi Saihara wrote:Novice mailman is a pretty strange role no doubt. Why is a mailman so good it needs to be nerfed?
it seems to me like a lot of closed setups have at least one role that on some level is "the mods messing with players who try to setup spec"
You have examples that come to mind for you?
dwlee was a backup vig in a game with no vig

idk i feel like it happens a lot, mods don't like people being able to solve their setups so they mess with expectations
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Post Post #641 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:34 am

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In post 639, Datisi wrote:scum!me is capable of typing letters and hitting submit so that's not exactly helpful

and i don't get the vibe so like

dwlee pls
It was the posts before I said that

And the vibe is based on genuinity
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Post Post #642 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:35 am

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In post 152, Aristeia wrote:right now I think the scum team is exactly skitter/prism
Can you tell me what you were scum reading from skitter at this point?
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Post Post #643 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:40 am

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In post 166, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 161, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 151, skitter30 wrote:Ok does that not apply to the like 5 other people in the game who did not have reads yet?

Also i think ceph can fake not hating the game for a whole 50 posts

Also i think vpb is somewhat scummy as well
Who else was active lurking give names
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In a town skitter world, this could be scum fire trying to feed drama. Of course, fire is also bad at reading me, so not sure I put a lot of stock in it. Just strikes me as convenient timing just as skitter was getting a little annoyed with me aggressively calling for her head.
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Post Post #644 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:11 am

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I dont think fire was doing that there tbh
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Post Post #645 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:15 am

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In post 644, skitter30 wrote:I dont think fire was doing that there tbh
not sure I really do either. Just feels like he kind of started sussing me right as you did, so paranoia!

Ok. I'm at like page 11 and I'm going to take a break (do actual work for awhile).

Not sure I gained much insight, but I think Prism looks a little better reading her exchange with Ari and putting it through the lens of her explanation that she felt kind of targeted for playstyle Ari is aware of. Not sure I think Ari was actually doing that intentionally, but if that was Prism's perception, it makes more sense why she was getting very tilted right there.
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Post Post #646 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:44 am

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a mailman cannot confirm if a player is ascetic.

because if the target is not ascetic, they can simply pretend to have not received the message


mailman =/= checker

the only utility is finding a scum ascetic that is unclaimed.
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Post Post #647 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:46 am

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Can probably vote skitter. Not townreading Datisi (and am actually voting him for lack of clear better option) but still think her approach to me/Aristeia was wonky. Call it gut but I really don't think VP Baltar is scum. If he wants to push me he just does it, and if he doesn't there's no real need to reread and circle back and waffle around. I'm fine throwing him in the bucket and calling it a day. I also just find the game hatred point from Skitter prodding around Datisi a bad line of questioning. Dude hates the game either way, complete masochist, just saw it in PYP.
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In post 548, Prism wrote:Just such an arbitrary push to me
it wasn't arbitrary to me. town!skitter pokes at anything that is of interest to her in the early game. scum!skitter hates her life. so one way of finding out which one i am dealing with is trying to see whether her pokes actually make sense and have solving intention behind them or whether they're there because they have to be there. and if i see her "poking" at something that really looks like a nonsense dead end, i'm gonna call it out because that would fit the image of scum!skitter more than town!skitter.

i feel like i have pushed at more miniscule things in my mafia career, but i don't know off the top of my head whether you've SEEN me do that, so i'll chill for now but
I have seen you critique many small things, some of which do not make sense to me. I haven't really seen you criticize playstyle and throw it under alignment. If you're that curious as to what the scumpings from Dwlee were, you could have taken a page from your own book and asked.

From my perspective criticizing "Because...?" was an obvious deadend. The broader skitter model you're presenting here is not implausible but is trivial to present as scum.
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Post Post #648 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:48 am

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In general pretty lethargic, we'll see how much I actually get done today. Plenty of slots to stare at if I want to.
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Post Post #649 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:50 am

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In post 647, Prism wrote:If you're that curious as to what the scumpings from Dwlee were, you could have taken a page from your own book and asked.
that was never what i cared about there?
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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