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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:32 pm

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In post 194, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 147, Not Known 15 wrote:Italiano, where's that Scorpious read coming from?
This has not been answered.
It has now.
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:33 pm

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Nah its definitely just omgus dude and the rest are galaxy brain justifications and so is your Italian scumread
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:33 pm

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In post 197, Scorpious wrote:
In post 186, koopashell wrote:Italiano, you should know that doesn't make it wolf indicative.
Perhaps consider this motivation, which is the truth:
I want to advance the game to the fun part asap(solving)
The most effective way to get there is to take stances and note reactions to said stances.
I have not even once stated any of my reads were set in stone - in fact mala has been fairly volatile here in view.
Tl;dr forcing reads advances the gamestate and you should consider people have diffrent opinions on how to play Mafia.

I ask kindly that you leave that point alone and evaluate me based on the content of my posts rather than how you think villagers should play the game.

This post needs to be pinned somewhere.

So tired of “you don’t play like me.. you’re scum”.

My playstyle changes from game to game as I will not subscribe to the alt process.
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:37 pm

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In post 276, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Nah its definitely just omgus dude and the rest are galaxy brain justifications and so is your
Italian scumread
see, blatant misrep again. Acting like I had Italiano as hard scum, when I've clearly stated it was 35% and that I do not feel that I am necessarily correct this early into a game.

Also, they're using incorrect justifications as a reasoning considering I explained that their level of understanding the situation was flat out incorrect, yet they wouldnt even be able to put what they think my justification is into words now that I cleared up that it wasn't the fluff nature.

ScumThem wanted that to be the narrative.

Human wants the game narrative for me to have a strong italiano scum read, and now they're gonna try to use a weak discredit attempt by dismissing the turn on them as simply OMGUS.

There is the possibility they just aren't a strong enough town player to see it, I guess.
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:38 pm

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I believe that Human is attempting a White Knight pocket attempt on Italiano to lower my presence in the game as scum.

It isn't a chainsaw.
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:38 pm

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Yes totally not galaxy brain dude
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:39 pm

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On a more serious note
I'll be here later give me like 10 hours
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:40 pm

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In post 281, humaneatingmonkey wrote:On a more serious note
I'll be here later give me like 10 hours
It doesn't matter if you were here, all you have is dismissals on an incorrect factual push. You just need to wait for more players to come in for you to proceed because I'm going to put you on a leash, monkey. This a strap match.
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:41 pm

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Right now, you're either scum doing exactly as I said, or incorrect town who doesn't know how to put their feelings into words.

Only two options.
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:43 pm

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For what it's worth, I don't believe ScumHuman planned to take that action for thoses purposes, he just needed to do something, which is why they felt the situation out first.

Then they realized their initial angle was wrong, so they shut themselves down and went into dismissal mode instead of acknowledging their initial angle was baseless after I had shown.

Their base was that I called Italiano fluffy, when that's not at all what happened, but they have nothing else, so they're just actively choosing to get into a 1v1.

It'll let them hide, and it will naturally cause people to tune the 1v1 out.

This is why it is a scum move by Human.
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:45 pm

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@Koopa - I'll trust your Italiano read for now, help me get a little bit of pressure onto this Monkey. I need to figure out if they're scum doing the move or town underanalyzing.
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:46 pm

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In post 208, Flavor Leaf wrote:Roden and Italian are the two that I've sniffed some scum energy on thus far. Too early to tell if that's accurate or not, because at least with Italian I've seen a few townie energy auras coming off of em.
And here I thought my takes were spicy.
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:46 pm

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In post 208, Flavor Leaf wrote:Roden and Italian are the two that I've sniffed some scum energy on thus far. Too early to tell if that's accurate or not, because at least with Italian I've seen a few townie energy auras coming off of em.
And here I thought my takes were spicy.
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:48 pm

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Roden being scum actually makes Human scum more likely here as well if Italiano/Koopa are both town.

But I dont have that complex a read on Roden, just early game natural positioning by everyone in relation to where I was.

I'd say I'm more onto Human Red tier, and Italiano blue tier right now, though.
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:49 pm

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In post 219, Flavor Leaf wrote:With Italians, it’s mostly been a lot of their stuff looks like it’s been said just to be said rather than them thinking it, almost like a “make the townie convince me they’re town” kinda strategy.
This is interesting. And I would say you're right. I wouldn't totally frame it that way, but yeah. You don't see that coming from a town mindset?
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:50 pm

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In post 208, Flavor Leaf wrote:Roden and Italian are the two that I've sniffed some scum energy on thus far. Too early to tell if that's accurate or not, because at least
with Italian I've seen a few townie energy auras coming off of em
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This is yet another reason Human monkey is filled with hot air trying to disrupt because they were pushing like I had Italiano as some hard lock scum when this actively shows I saw some reasons to town read Italiano.

One of my main purposes for making my initial Italiano push was to elicit reactions onto me, and both Koopa and Human bit some worms. I think Koopa did it innocently. Human did not.
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:51 pm

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In post 220, Flavor Leaf wrote:The antenna line also made a Koopa-FL an in game connection, like it was then trying to put us on some type of stage to either be scum read together, or cause a TvS.
Again yeah. Reading that early interaction between you too pinged me. Even though it was sorta RVS, it just didn't seem like anything. And it was more koopa than you.
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:52 pm

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In post 289, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 219, Flavor Leaf wrote:With Italians, it’s mostly been a lot of their stuff looks like it’s been said just to be said rather than them thinking it, almost like a “make the townie convince me they’re town” kinda strategy.
This is interesting. And I would say you're right. I wouldn't totally frame it that way, but yeah. You don't see that coming from a town mindset?

Yeah, I can see it coming from a town mindset, sure. Wasn't my initial read on it, though. I'm leaning there now, though.


And the admittance by Italiano here also invalidates Human's "your justification is lol" case.

So book the monkey.
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:53 pm

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In post 291, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 220, Flavor Leaf wrote:The antenna line also made a Koopa-FL an in game connection, like it was then trying to put us on some type of stage to either be scum read together, or cause a TvS.
Again yeah. Reading that early interaction between you too pinged me. Even though it was sorta RVS, it just didn't seem like anything. And it was more koopa than you.
Yeah, italiano is green now.

This is me green'ing italiano while noting that this is exactly the best way a scum italiano could have gotten out of my scum read on them.

No doubt the Human interaction opened up my perspective on the overall gamestate.

Human/Roden + 2 less active players is my way too early solve.
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:54 pm

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Koopa/Italiano/Malakittens way too early town block for me atm.

Scorpious is 'almost' there, but that 5th slot is too much for a town block.
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:55 pm

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I will say, my scorpious town read is heavy gut, so I can't really go into that one quite yet. Over time, maybe I'll be able to explain it better
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:57 pm

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I gotta say I like and . Not just for the tone but for letting us in a little bit to the mind of koopa.
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:59 pm

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In post 223, Flavor Leaf wrote:I guess I don’t see Italiano’s reasoning as complex. Looks pretty weak reasoning for the most part.

Almost looks like they wanted you to feel that ease off of them so you’ll town read them.
Wait what? I was trying to get koopa to townread me?
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:01 pm

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In post 297, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 223, Flavor Leaf wrote:I guess I don’t see Italiano’s reasoning as complex. Looks pretty weak reasoning for the most part.

Almost looks like they wanted you to feel that ease off of them so you’ll town read them.
Wait what? I was trying to get koopa to townread me?
If you're town, you werent.
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:01 pm

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Ugh, just when I start feeling better about you, you go and post .
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