Mini 2266: GnG's Upick Mafia [GAME OVER]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Yes I'm tilted

the best way to untilt yourself is to vote for mastina

I really wanna follow this because my first solve was Gypyx,Reinhardt and Mastina and I really wanna have a 3/3 solve but Roden is stopping me with each post.

ill help you vote for roden in the post game after we yeet scumtina

[jjh927]

I'm trying to question everything surrounding Roden and vampires here, so could someone let me know if the exp stuff all lines up fine with FA buying a vig

[jjh927]

Damn, it's my scumday

Cool

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

can we get my boy jjh a scumtina elim for his scumday

[Frozen Angel]

well played so you're trying to use that to come back at me

As for why you're claiming your Vig worked fine Angel, I'm certain it has to do with the Blood Pact ability, and that you're purposely withholding information about how Dunn is affecting you. The fact that you tried to Vig him after I told you it could affect your alignment is scummy as fuck tbh.

His blood pact effect is not known to me. If I knew what it was I wouldn't scream in our chat the way I did when he used the skill. mod later came and said that I was hit by it but I don't know what it did. So I don't know what it did. I really belive that he thought I'm really dieing so used a skill that will effect me when I die. But I never died.

The fact you told me I cant vig him cause it might effect my alignment + you asking to body guard him + you saying he cant be vigged + you saying in our chat that you will have to stay and finish town wincon and changing it in main thread when jjh asked that you'll leave game is exactly why I was like you know what I will go through with this. First I tried to buy even two vig shots that even if you would reflect my first shot back I would still kill one of you with second one even if you were body guarding him.

Your contraditionary stance on that slot about them getting vigged or not is even scummier than your lie about them being scum. You wanted to make a play here and I prevented it cause I was sure you're lying after rereading your posts. But now you insist that those were wrong information somehow you had instead of outright claiming you played anti town cause you were a supposable town lyncher and wanted to work for your win con. This new stance is exactly why you should go down today cause it means you're not a town lyncher.

[Frozen Angel]

I'm trying to question everything surrounding Roden and vampires here, so could someone let me know if the exp stuff all lines up fine with FA buying a vig

0.25 + purchased retry + Day 1 challenge + New day = 1.25 (end of D1) + New Night = 1.5 (end of N1) + song + New day + Day 2 Challenge = 3.25 (end of D2) + New night = 3.5 (end of N2) + New day + challenge + being on wagon = 5.25 (end of D3)

everyone who've been playing and did a challenge or two can have an ultimate skill and beyond that at this stage of the game.

[Frozen Angel]

so everyone knows what this blood pact thing is

[Frozen Angel]

Spoiler:

Your skill is equivalent of anti town utility and you responded to me that you have no anti town utility in general Mod error or not.

How is that my fault?

It's not? Its just something that got revealed you have which you were hiding on purpose at first when you thought it didn't come to play. But you got forced to reveal it. It's a scum mindset to keep such thing hidden and not claim it outright?!

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I'm honestly 100% sure at this point that dunnestral is an evil 3p

I need to reveal this as well

We heard another claim that suggests werewolfs are also evil 3p possible in game that get even nights night kill.

Would not surprise me that vampire is (are) ones with odd nights night kills.

Just listen and list whatever dunn claimed so far. How can a town role has these many utilities. He is a joat claimed investigative heal, role block with extra skill in sneak tree, who is immune to get investigated, who roden claims he is immune to get vigged who just gifted exp to someone from another chat?!

This is just not town

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are you putting curses on my slot or something

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dunn been posting those card images on our chat as well during day 3 after the push against him started as well. That was one of the reasons that I didn't go against roden mid day despite his contraditions that I mentioned above cause I was sure that dunn is up to something. right before end of the phase he used a skill called "Blood pact" on me in sneak chat. I immediately lost my shit as I thought he is trying to change my alignment to scum knowing I'm dieing or something. no one else questioned him, and I decided to not say anything in sneak chat to continue playing dead to just shoot dunnestral.

and If you wanna question this next, I did hard core claim my flavor many times in game and you know that my disappearing act was true cause kyoko never died and did perform this disappearing act in flavor. I also heavy hinted at it when I said no revive on me and stuff like that. Mod didn't even say I'm revived cause I never died.

So yeah I think his blood pact skill is something that triggers on me when I die and he was assuming I will but I didn't.

I'm sure I ruined both dunn and roden play last night whatever they were.

[Frozen Angel]

Regardless of his skill

whatever bastard shit it can be how could he be both not viggable and not Town and then suddenly one skill make him both viggable and town.

so roden is still lying to us about his information being wrong. just like how he was contraditing himself all the time yesterday.

[Roden]

I didn't contradict myself, I was literally being given new information as the Day went on and even said that.

[Roden]

@Roden

Can someone, preferably Roden, just confirm whether Roden would leave the game in victory in the scenario that he achieved this side wincon?

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Originally no, but I recently got an update from the mod and I don't see a reason not to share. I can choose to leave the game and immediately announce my win, or continue to play as town and announce my win in post game. I intended to do the latter since my upgrade is fun and I want to see if I can catch scum tonight.

However, the update makes it clear that I don't have to fulfill both wincons, just one of them. I'm assuming this is because I have to be on a vampire's wagon when they get elim'd for it to count. For instance, if I died beforehand and one of the vampires rolled scum instead of 3P, I wouldn't be able to win even if a scum vampire died if I had to fulfill both wincons. So it's a nice little QoL cushion.

[Roden]

Angel I can tell you really want to play the hero, but you're just clowning yourself by Vigging a townie and assuming because things don't immediately make sense to you in a bastard game, that intentionally mis-elimming a townie is somehow the correct follow up play

[Frozen Angel]

Ofcourse you did. I just listed like 10 contradictions.

Lets say thats true about you leaving the game and mod clarified it later for you. That doesn't explain why you didn't fix your lie about him not being viggable and not town - and doesn't explain why would you suggest body guarding him and spread ideas about his "vampirism" being conteigous probably all just to make sure others not touch the slot if he was truly not viggable and you know it for a fact + seeing he actually got vigged right in the face

so cant believe it for a second that you had these information anymore. if you would say "yeah I played antitown on purpose cause I was lyncher and wanted my wincon done" sure but you still don't admit that those were a lie and its just another lie cause its in contradiction with all events of yesterday and I just explained how.

pedit: You claimed he is not town!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Are you for real now?! You claimed he is not town and you try to even suggest that his green flip is somehow on me?! the responsibility of that wrong information is 100% on you.

[Frozen Angel]

Roden will never flip town in this.

[Roden]

I have never seen someone be so confident yet so embarrassingly wrong

[Roden]

JJH and Pooky, if you're confident Mastina is the final scum then I'll vote there. Otherwise I'm down to self flip due to my love of making overconfident heroes eat crow.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

mastina flipping scum and the game ending would also make her eat crow

[Frozen Angel]

If I was confident I would not be giving time to you explain what happened yesterday and I would not be questioning you.

I am solving the game. This is my conclusion that you've lied and that you're insisting on it means you're not flipping town so I want you flipped. Regardless of your alignment a little respect while playing a game goes a long way.

Meanwhile your crocodile tears will not change my opinion on your slot suddenly. Its logically proven that you're full of shit so unless if you refute the logic with logic or give us something that would change the course of this case/convo, you're going down.

[Shiro]

Roden yesterday saying Dunn is caught scum the slipped and doubled down.

Roden today I was all in on Dunn town yo.

XD I am dying

[Frozen Angel]

where is titus

[Yume]

I kinda scumread jjh because he is reluctant to let himself be townfirmed, and I have a nagging feeling he is setting things up for the townfirm to fail. It's not something I can explain rationally, but it's there.

[Shiro]

Your scum was dwee Yume,I am adamant on the oen scum per hood theory

[Shiro]

jj and FA are lock town

[Yume]

Then explain why he refuses to be townfirmed, okay?

[Ginngie]

lil update