Mini 2266: GnG's Upick Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Ginngie]

no votes have changed

[jjh927]

Yume needs me to explain every 24 hours that 2+1 does not equal 4 and we unfortunately could not afford to get the role steal in the previous night phase because she spent an exp immediately on getting the reviver when I said not to do that

This does not amount to be not wanting to be confirmed town, although honestly I have bigger fish to fry, like limming scum!Mastina

[jjh927]

I'm trying to question everything surrounding Roden and vampires here, so could someone let me know if the exp stuff all lines up fine with FA buying a vig

0.25 + purchased retry + Day 1 challenge + New day = 1.25 (end of D1) + New Night = 1.5 (end of N1) + song + New day + Day 2 Challenge = 3.25 (end of D2) + New night = 3.5 (end of N2) + New day + challenge + being on wagon = 5.25 (end of D3)

everyone who've been playing and did a challenge or two can have an ultimate skill and beyond that at this stage of the game.

Okay but is it known what you spent your exp on and when?

[Enchant]

Yume needs me to explain every 24 hours that 2+1 does not equal 4 and we unfortunately could not afford to get the role steal in the previous night phase because she spent an exp immediately on getting the reviver when I said not to do that

This does not amount to be not wanting to be confirmed town, although honestly I have bigger fish to fry, like limming scum!Mastina

Reminds me about Titus.

[Yume]

You want to lim her? Then why aren't you telling people to do it? They will listen to you.

[jjh927]

Yume, there are many aspects to persuasion. As you may note, Pooky is fulfilling the role of "guy who keeps saying to lim mastina", for which I am appreciative. However, the people who need to be convinced are the people who want to lim Roden, so I need to find the way of explaining how Roden can still be town that I believe exists

[jjh927]

I don't just say a thing and get everyone to listen to me. I have an awareness of what other people are thinking and what might be persuasive to them.

[Frozen Angel]

I'm trying to question everything surrounding Roden and vampires here, so could someone let me know if the exp stuff all lines up fine with FA buying a vig

0.25 + purchased retry + Day 1 challenge + New day = 1.25 (end of D1) + New Night = 1.5 (end of N1) + song + New day + Day 2 Challenge = 3.25 (end of D2) + New night = 3.5 (end of N2) + New day + challenge + being on wagon = 5.25 (end of D3)

everyone who've been playing and did a challenge or two can have an ultimate skill and beyond that at this stage of the game.

Okay but is it known what you spent your exp on and when?

I immediately spent everything I got on first possible phases on warrior tree. I do have body guard and the engineer free and didn't use them on anyone.

I tried using engineer on myself after mastina but I couldn't upgrade myself further. and everyone else seems to be upgraded but mastina themself and we decided to not upgrade them with the nature of their claim.

[Frozen Angel]

mastina is the one who can still be town not roden. Mastina is certainly not scum by role claim and that role can legit exist the way they described.making up that claim when we were on page 1 of game is absolutely ridiculously hard. So I believe most of their claim at least is truth and if they are scum is just minor differences - like for example they are already a werewolf who has the post restriction to say they are town etc. But lack of kills (specially in even nights that they claimed warewfol can) just suggests if they are a serial killer, they been behaving?

so yeah role wise it still makes no sense for the slot to be scum while it has a possibility still

play wise they been pushing poky and it felt genuine, their reads and hunts been also genuine, like they guessed shiro was llds masonizer in day 1 and started trying to convince rest of us that shiro is town cause of it cause she felt that's what lld was crumbling. Now that would be such a random angle to pursue for a scum mastina out of nowhere to use meta and hints to make such a far fetched read that they were convinced at the time to push

stuff like that gave an early town read on the slot for me - at least I could see it having a town mindset.

[jjh927]

Role wise, one of mastina's picks was that she never fakeclaims as scum in a game with post restrictions. Have you considered she may be unable to claim her real role?

[Enchant]

VOTE: Roden

[Frozen Angel]

Role wise, one of mastina's picks was that she never fakeclaims as scum in a game with post restrictions. Have you considered she may be unable to claim her real role?

yes. its just impractical post restriction to apply. none of us are technically allowed to claim our role just paraphrase it. Its so depends on personal judgement whats close enough to be failing such post restrictions

in additioneven then I believe what she claimed has some sort of truth in it (and we saw some sort of truth in it with her vote for example and we know her post restriction) so it cant be a completely fake claim. so we can conclude that she is not restricted from claiming her role. ofc she is restricted from scum claiming if she is scum that's against her wincon

This is just pure wifom however and will for sure get absolutely nowhere

[Titus]

I'll catch up tonight.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you can catch up by voting for scumtina

[Roden]

Mastina: literally claims evil 3P

Angel: "yeah this is probably town"

[Enchant]

Roden openly trying to divert attention on Mastina.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Can we lim ScumTina already

[Roden]

Roden openly trying to divert attention on Mastina.

If I don't roll over and die then I'm scum I guess

[Enchant]

Roden openly trying to divert attention on Mastina.

If I don't roll over and die then I'm scum I guess

Why you lied then

[jjh927]

Roden, you're kinda halfway between rolling over and not

Please could you just reiterate for me all the info you got about vampires or I'll give up on eliminating Mastina in this phase

[Roden]

Roden openly trying to divert attention on Mastina.

If I don't roll over and die then I'm scum I guess

Why you lied then

I didn't. I believed the information I was given. This is a bastard game, we all know this and it's tiring that everyone is pretending it isn't. Either the flip is wrong or the information I was given was wrong. If you think I'm scum or evil 3P then you need to explain why I played the way I did.

[Roden]

Roden, you're kinda halfway between rolling over and not

Please could you just reiterate for me all the info you got about vampires or I'll give up on eliminating Mastina in this phase

If you want to run the risk of getting gladiate'd then go ahead.

[Roden]

I just simply don't want to waste my time requoting/rewriting a bunch of posts I already explained several times that I know no one will actually read. If anyone paid attention or believed me this situation wouldn't be happening in the first place.

Like you understand how dumb it is that people want to let a claimed killing 3P live over someone who is, at worst, a suspected execitioner that? Do you really think reiterating anything that was ignored in the past will change anyone's minds this time around?

[jjh927]

Why can't you just repeat the info you were given
I'm trying to help you here

[Roden]

I just simply don't want to waste my time requoting/rewriting a bunch of posts I already explained several times that I know no one will actually read. If anyone paid attention or believed me this situation wouldn't be happening in the first place.

Like, do you understand how dumb it is that people want to let a claimed killing 3P live over someone who is, at worst, a suspected executioner? Do you really think reiterating anything that was ignored in the past will change anyone's minds this time around?