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Post Post #650 (ISO) » Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:04 am

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In post 647, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 644, Flavor Leaf wrote:'twas just a buzz word you used.
No.
You said you don't lie about reads as town. So you are scum, then, because you lied about your roden read. If you are town: Where am I wrong?
This isn't a good reason to find FL wolfy, NK15.
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Post Post #651 (ISO) » Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:05 am

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it was more i felt it at the time, then stopped feeling it. the more you talk, the more i actually start to scum read Roden again, though.

Mainly because the more you talk the more I'm getting a feeling you might be town who's just looking at the game in black and white.

I get my reads through direct interaction.

Otherwise it's mainly gamestate reads from the perspective I have at the time I give the read.

Roden was all gamestate reads at the time since I hadn't interacted with them.

Scum manipulate gamestate, so by looking at my past gamestate reads in the future, I can look to see where scum were manipulating things as the days go on.
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Post Post #653 (ISO) » Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:07 am

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In post 81, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 18, ItalianoVD wrote:I usually get scumread for this but eh who cares.

1. How long have you played the game of mafia, not just on this site, but ever?
2. Do you like playing the role of town or mafia better?
3. Are you an active poster or a lurker?
4. Do you find it hard to lie or it something you have no issues with?
First game.
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Lurker.
I have never lied.
I would never lie.
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Post Post #654 (ISO) » Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:08 am

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Even if I fake claim as town, I'm not lying, I'm just saying something that isn't true.

I know, wild logic, but is that something you think that I could see as true?
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Post Post #655 (ISO) » Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:09 am

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@Koopa - If you were wrong on 1 of NK15, Human, or Roden, who would it be?
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Post Post #656 (ISO) » Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:09 am

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Roden, I would venture.
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Post Post #657 (ISO) » Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:10 am

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Which of NK15 or Human is a stronger town read for you?
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Post Post #658 (ISO) » Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:13 am

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Well... what are your current and past gamestate reads and their reasons, then?
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Post Post #659 (ISO) » Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:15 am

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In post 657, Flavor Leaf wrote:Which of NK15 or Human is a stronger town read for you?
Definitely NK15 but human I want to leave alone for day 1 regardless unless they do something that is wolfy(to me).
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Post Post #660 (ISO) » Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:16 am

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In post 658, Not Known 15 wrote:Well... what are your current and past gamestate reads and their reasons, then?

Reasons are for scums.
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Post Post #661 (ISO) » Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:18 am

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For the most part, i always give my thoughts on reads, like I’m better at doing that as scum than town even.

If i don’t, that means it’s more tone/gut/gamestate from my pov.

If anything, it’s like a list so people can know where my head’s at.

Refusing to give reasons isn’t scummy because as scum, I could easily make some shit up that people would like, let’s be honest. I got the gift of gab, and it’s one of my best strengths as scum.
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Post Post #662 (ISO) » Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:20 am

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Oh, if the replacement is who I think it is, this game’s gonna get real fun.
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Post Post #663 (ISO) » Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:27 am

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In post 661, Flavor Leaf wrote:For the most part, i always give my thoughts on reads, like I’m better at doing that as scum than town even.

If i don’t, that means it’s more tone/gut/gamestate from my pov.

If anything, it’s like a list so people can know where my head’s at.

Refusing to give reasons isn’t scummy because as scum, I could easily make some shit up that people would like, let’s be honest. I got the gift of gab, and it’s one of my best strengths as scum.
So you are saying that your roden read was based fully on gamestate and think that explaining your gamestate assumptions will do more harm than good. Is this correct?
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Post Post #664 (ISO) » Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:37 am

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It’s more in the line of “not sure how to put it into words, but i have this energy feeling it here”

Do you think it puts me in a better position to not explain?

Do you think I wouldn’t be able to put together something as scum that would have most players in the game feel acceptable considering the time it was spent?

Kinda over this conversation overall, this was like pre page 10 stuff, seems like you’re making a lot out of a little, which could be your way of getting deeper integrated into the game, so i guess it’s fine
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Post Post #665 (ISO) » Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:37 am

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More to read about NK15, so net positive overall
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Post Post #666 (ISO) » Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:38 am

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I would say the lack of reasoning now helped the game get a better read on you. Would you disagree?
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Post Post #667 (ISO) » Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:43 am

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In post 666, Flavor Leaf wrote:I would say the lack of reasoning now helped the game get a better read on you. Would you disagree?
The problem is if everyone does that it helps scum immensely.
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Post Post #668 (ISO) » Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:47 am

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In post 316, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 312, koopashell wrote:The catchup nested within spoilers is performative to me,
i was trying to elicit some sort of interaction with italiano, but they stone walled.


Fine, you convinced me.

Human/Italiano/Roden + 1 lesser active player way too early scum prediction, and also all based individually as well.

In that order for me.
Now you need to explain why you classified the roden read here as individually.
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Post Post #669 (ISO) » Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:00 pm

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I do have a suggestion that we should stop focusing on FL, myself, and monkey. I'm going to probably tone down my posting massively. I want other slots discussed because this is choking the gamestate.
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Post Post #670 (ISO) » Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:05 pm

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In post 669, koopashell wrote:I do have a suggestion that we should stop focusing on FL, myself, and monkey. I'm going to probably tone down my posting massively. I want other slots discussed because this is choking the gamestate.
I am nearly finished.
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Post Post #671 (ISO) » Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:10 pm

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In post 508, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Italiano's telling me right now that not only he finds FL's flip on his slot believable (which I don't see), he's telling me that he believes FL clearing him there is town-indicative.

Is this an accurate representation, Mr. Sir ItalianoVD MD?
Why yes it is my good monkey sir.
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Post Post #672 (ISO) » Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:10 pm

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In post 504, humaneatingmonkey wrote:maybe you're just scum Italiano
So HEM is annoyed with me not scumreading Leaf with him and instead of seeing the possibility of Leaf just being town he comes to the conclusion that I am scum. I have that right?
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Post Post #673 (ISO) » Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:13 pm

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I have a do set traps as town and if I’m to believe what Leaf said then I see him as town. I have no issue with it. Where are you know re: Leaf? Same? Changed, etc.?
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Post Post #674 (ISO) » Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:15 pm

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@koopa: What was your case on Scorpious? I don’t wanna tell you mine and possibly give scum!you ammo. :)
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