Mini 2266: GnG's Upick Mafia [GAME OVER]

[jjh927]

You do that work and I'll do a whole bunch of work convincing people

Continue to invest effort in refusing and ultimately I'm left wondering how this is lower effort than making a statement for me

[jjh927]

Like, right now you're supposed to be annoyed about how people have misinterpeted what you said

Why not be explicitly clear about what info you got and let me get to the bottom of this

[Frozen Angel]

Mastina: literally claims evil 3P

Angel: "yeah this is probably town"

They claimed they can turn in to an evil 3p but they are town otherwise. I just said rest of their claim makes sense and if they are town or not is pure wifom shit

Stop discreditng my arguments. Thats just so painfully desprate

Roden openly trying to divert attention on Mastina.

If I don't roll over and die then I'm scum I guess

So you suddenly developed a scum read on mastina when you were buddy buddy with her before getting pushed in our chat?!

[Frozen Angel]

Like, right now you're supposed to be annoyed about how people have misinterpeted what you said

Why not be explicitly clear about what info you got and let me get to the bottom of this

Cause we didn't misinterpret anything

He is just caught scum and the whole theater about being annoyed about getting pushed is fake.

[jjh927]

Yeah I mean, he's definitely pushing me towards that conclusion even though it's probably mutually exclusive with scum!mastina

Although maybe the scumteam is 4 people. Wouldn't be too ridiculous given the revivers, actually

[Roden]

Currently at work but I'll explain on my break

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

roden is clearly town can we just kill mastina holy shit

[Titus]

So who allegedly tried to steal my ability last night?

[jjh927]

Nobody did

We didn't have the exp

[Frozen Angel]

roden is clearly town can we just kill mastina holy shit

mate he claimed dunnestral is not town and not viggable

he is dead and he flipped green by my vig shot

how is he clearly town. Are you for real? Can you at least read stuff

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i have been blinded by bloodlust for scumtina and refuse to read anything

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also if roden was the last scum it would be really stupid for him to fake a guilty on dunnstral cuz there's no way in hell reinhardt was going to endgame

[Frozen Angel]

also if roden was the last scum it would be really stupid for him to fake a guilty on dunnstral cuz there's no way in hell reinhardt was going to endgame

he didn't fake a guilty. he wanted the slot lynched cause of its flavor - vampire

so I'm 100% sure he had an extra lyncher wincon.

But he insists that his data was real which is clearly a lie.

I don't care if you're blinded or what not. read the game before saying random stuff about people alignment.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok lets say roden is a executioner or w/e

is he groupscum?

[Titus]

Nobody did

We didn't have the exp

Alright, y'all didn't try to sort that...I am macho tonight so....

[Frozen Angel]

ok lets say roden is a executioner or w/e

is he groupscum?

my guess is no

but I think so is mastina

[Frozen Angel]

that she aint group scum either if she is scum

[Enchant]

ok lets say roden is a executioner or w/e

is he groupscum?

Bur you pushing mastine for being potential 3p.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why is mastina not groupscum

[Enchant]

why is mastina not groupscum

why Roden is not?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

interaction with gypyx when wagon swung from gypyx to me during d1 does not look like s/s

[Roden]

Like, right now you're supposed to be annoyed about how people have misinterpeted what you said

Why not be explicitly clear about what info you got and let me get to the bottom of this

Ok so, the main problem isn't that I'm being misinterpreted, nobody just particularly cares what I'm saying. Town is on auto-pilot to the point that the people who want to vote me currently have the mindset of "contradiction = lie = evil" and are just taking the game at face value.

For me to be scum, I'd have to have hard bussed both of my buddies. Yeah scum can do that...but why do I then try to 1v1 Dunn after Dwlee's fate is already sealed? What exactly is that supposed to do for me besides get me killed for trying to fake a guilty on a townie several days before ELO? If someone wants to claim I'm scum, they'd need to explain what I was doing there that's supposed to lock in a scum wincon. In reality, it's pretty obvious I'm not scum.

Ok but what about evil 3P? I've already explained why this doesn't make sense either: I'd just fake a guilty on day start. That's the easiest way to do it, and I'd already pushed two scum beforehand so it wouldn't be hard to convince people to do it. I know this because it literally just happened to me in the last Grand Idea Mafia. I had first hand experience with how to successfully win as executioner by being the target of one, so it would make sense to just follow the same game plan. So it's reasonable to believe I'm not 3P either if you just look at my play.

However, none of that is happening. Nobody wants to think about how my play doesn't make sense to come from scum or 3P. A bastard thing happened in a bastard game, and for some reason, some people can't accept that. I could write a ten page essay thoroughly explaining vampire info, but it wouldn't matter because Dunn appeared to flip town. There's nothing I can type up about vampire info that will make people change their minds.

[Roden]

well played so you're trying to use that to come back at me

As for why you're claiming your Vig worked fine Angel, I'm certain it has to do with the Blood Pact ability, and that you're purposely withholding information about how Dunn is affecting you. The fact that you tried to Vig him after I told you it could affect your alignment is scummy as fuck tbh.

His blood pact effect is not known to me. If I knew what it was I wouldn't scream in our chat the way I did when he used the skill. mod later came and said that I was hit by it but I don't know what it did. So I don't know what it did. I really belive that he thought I'm really dieing so used a skill that will effect me when I die. But I never died.

This in particular should be a massive red flag to Angel, and the fact it isn't should be a red flag to the rest of us.

Angel knows that she's been targeted by an unknown affect and that it was done with evil intent, yet doesn't question it or the town flip. She also at some point spewed that she knows it comes from an upgraded ability even though it didn't show up in the flip.

And mechanically, there's no reason for her to be notified by the mod that she was targeted by an ability. That's not how abilities typically work, unless you know what the affect is or you've been doused by an arsonist.

[Frozen Angel]

Angel knows that she's been targeted by an unknown affect and that it was done with evil intent

No?!! dunn flipped town

why the fuck would I assume it was done with evil intent now?

I know that probably was something that would effect me if I died. But I was lying about dieing so the effect of it has yet come to play.

I instantly assumed it was evil cause of the nature and flavor of it when dunn was not flipped. That was one of the reasons that I even shot him. Ofcourse I questioned it. I was the ONLY one in sneak chat that questioned it. Why didn't you say anything about it last night phase or even today until you got pushed?

[Frozen Angel]

And mechanically, there's no reason for her to be notified by the mod that she was targeted by an ability. That's not how abilities typically work, unless you know what the affect is or you've been doused by an arsonist.

Mechanically I was targeted by this action but mod refused to explain it explicitly. so I can mechanically confirm that it action did target me. IT was a public action that was used (as he did it in sneak chat not in private)

So yes that's how the public actions work.

You're so desprate that its actually funny to what you fixate on right now.