KTaNE [game over!]

[VP Baltar]

my understanding was she implied an inno?

I read the "attempted to visit" as implying some shady business.

Titus, can you please clarify whatever you're doing?

[Andante]

my understanding was she implied an inno?

I read the "attempted to visit" as implying some shady business.

Titus, can you please clarify whatever you're doing?

yeah same, assumed ascetic and not a guilty, now it’s supposedly a guilty?

[VP Baltar]

I mean, if Titus wants to claim a straight guilty, let's go.

[Dwlee99]

VP why haven't you claimed

[Cat Scratch Fever]

HEAL: bell

Bell, andante, who do we want as the third?

[VP Baltar]

VP why haven't you claimed

Am I at E-1?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Effectively yeah since neither GL nor misty have voted yet

[Cat Scratch Fever]

HEAL: bell

Bell, andante, who do we want as the third?

Maybe enchant to realize andante's D4 dream

HEAL: enchant

[Dwlee99]

VP why haven't you claimed

Am I at E-1?

You probably will be like CSF said and I'm claimed cause of Andante so

[VP Baltar]

I'll wait. There is plenty of malarkey going on that needs to get cleared up before I let you mislim me

[Dwlee99]

Okay homie

[Titus]

The implied visit was an attempt to secure an accurate read on VP. The hood established a crumb section for me since I claimed a cop in our thread. I could not actually check anyone. However by implying I had a result on whichever Dwlee or VP got ran up, it would be more likely the result was correct.

Our crumb system had me document who I "checked". I deliberately started with my first post outside of that range.

If my hood had a scum, they would waste roleblocking or kills on me.

[VP Baltar]

The implied visit was an attempt to secure an accurate read on VP. The hood established a crumb section for me since I claimed a cop in our thread. I could not actually check anyone. However by implying I had a result on whichever Dwlee or VP got ran up, it would be more likely the result was correct.

Our crumb system had me document who I "checked". I deliberately started with my first post outside of that range.

If my hood had a scum, they would waste roleblocking or kills on me.

I'm so confused.

So you fake claimed a cop in a bomb PT, then fake claimed a result today....how is this implying that whoever got run up is "more likely" the correct result?

[Dwlee99]

VPB I don't get why your reason for thinking I'm scum is still that you think I'm being "obtuse" and not cause Andres is fucking dead

[VP Baltar]

VPB I don't get why your reason for thinking I'm scum is still that you think I'm being "obtuse" and not cause Andres is fucking dead

Obviously you killed andres. I initially thought, 'well I don't see a lot scummy in dwlee's day play, could something else be happening here?' Then I express this thought today, and you proceed to exploit that to piledrive me by ignoring all the evidence to the contrary of me possibly being scum. And then when I explain that evidence, you act like your brains are made of concrete when we all know they are not.

So yeah, you killed andres and I never said that's not the case if you're scum. Example No. 500 of you acting like you can't understand basic conversation.

[Dwlee99]

VPB I don't get why your reason for thinking I'm scum is still that you think I'm being "obtuse" and not cause Andres is fucking dead

Obviously you killed andres. I initially thought, 'well I don't see a lot scummy in dwlee's day play, could something else be happening here?' Then I express this thought today, and you proceed to exploit that to piledrive me by ignoring all the evidence to the contrary of me possibly being scum. And then when I explain that evidence, you act like your brains are made of concrete when we all know they are not.

So yeah, you killed andres and I never said that's not the case if you're scum. Example No. 500 of you acting like you can't understand basic conversation.

But I'm town

[Dwlee99]

But you were the one that completely misunderstood conversation and are still ignoring the post where I went over that despite me linking it two or three times

[VP Baltar]

But you were the one that completely misunderstood conversation and are still ignoring the post where I went over that despite me linking it two or three times

I replied directly to that post. Cripes

[VP Baltar]

I'm pretty sure VP townreads me because he is literally factionally informed I'm town but okay

This is an insane thing to say. If you want me to scum case you, I can read lots of your posts with bad intent.

I'm trying to right this game state and willing to risk my lim to do it because I think if someone doesn't correct course, we are headed to a very bad game state.

You should take a step back and think about what I would actually gain from approaching the game this way as scum (nothing), and then help me lim mistyx.

So you ask what you'd gain as scum from not trying to lim me

Not getting limmed and not exposing scum as having at least 2 defuses seems like a pretty big win to me?

I point out if you are successful in evading a 1v1 with me that you don't get limmed and that you don't confirm that scum have 2 defusals towards their 4 defusal win con.

Not getting limmed and not exposing scum as having at least 2 defuses seems like a pretty big win to me?

I already would have had two defusals before there was a risk, yeah? This makes no sense.

I don't follow what makes no sense about it

Scum start the game with 1 kill.

I defuse N1.
Scum have 2 kills, kill N1.
I defuse N2.
Scum have 2 kills. Kill N2.
Town ZOMG VP IS SCUM! Lim VP.
Scum kill N3, town worried rest of game about defusals, never let defusals happen.

As opposed to what are you proposing? Scum have like 3 NKs or something they are sitting on? For what reason? To keep me alive when I was always going to get limmed at some point for having two defusals?

And now I have no fucking clue how what you're saying is relevant. What does any of this have to do with you positioning to try to lim mistyx instead of me? Nothing. There's no connection. I have no idea what you're even attempting to say

I am merging the arguments that both you and csf are making a but at this point. You're both going on about hiding defusals and when to use NKs, but my point is that after two defusals REGARDLESS OF ALIGNMENT, town should never let me defuse again.

Therefore, if I was scum, I'd just want to get people dead rather than limp along and not be doing anything useful for scum for several days. If I'm scum, I have already achieved above average toward the wincon, very little to gain by hiding kills etc. I don't see how this is actually confusing for you. You're being intentionally obtuse because you want to get me pissed off and having stupid arguments in thread over semantics like this.

FOR YOUR OBTUSE CONVENIENCE

[Titus]

The implied visit was an attempt to secure an accurate read on VP. The hood established a crumb section for me since I claimed a cop in our thread. I could not actually check anyone. However by implying I had a result on whichever Dwlee or VP got ran up, it would be more likely the result was correct.

Our crumb system had me document who I "checked". I deliberately started with my first post outside of that range.

If my hood had a scum, they would waste roleblocking or kills on me.

I'm so confused.

So you fake claimed a cop in a bomb PT, then fake claimed a result today....how is this implying that whoever got run up is "more likely" the correct result?

Because scum know the answer. Scum are unlikely to push to miseliminate someone if they believe there's an innocent. They are likely to bus if they think there's a guilty.

[Dwlee99]

VP that post has no relevance at all to you not trying to lim me at the start of the day...

[VP Baltar]

Because scum know the answer. Scum are unlikely to push to miseliminate someone if they believe there's an innocent. They are likely to bus if they think there's a guilty.

So you're saying a) your PT last night was scum free because you are alive b) scum are bussing me.

Who is scum again?

[VP Baltar]

VP that post has no relevance at all to you not trying to lim me at the start of the day...

Why do you keep talking in circles? You said I didn't reply to you asking questions, I post that I actually did, then you say that's not relevant to this other thing you didn't say!

I'm not going to keep doing this because you're just openwolfing me and it is starting to piss me off.

[VP Baltar]

Like, are you just trying to get me titled? You've already duped enough town to possibly lim me today, is that necessary?

What do you think about andante and Titus both faking information on me today and then claiming the fake info is definitely reason to kill me. Makes complete sense and always happens to scum, I'm sure.

[Cephrir]

so you have VP guilty… said nothing… I had no need to out my stuff… I hate this game

She can't have a guilty because there isn't a guilty to get.

Town cannot play this game, I swear.

how dare we not go look at your role pm