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[Flavor Leaf]

OK buddy why is she town tho.

chill, i didnt even see the post until =after i posted that one

[Flavor Leaf]

If Mala is scum, why hasn't she shown anything, though. She's good at playing scum.

I haven't been like actively stopping the Mala wagon or anything, so feel free to push it. I just wont be on it. I'm in a pocket, koopa, if she is scum. You're doing a decent job at allowing me to see it, but it's the type of pocket I'm just kinda willing to be in right now considering I have reads on other slots on the game.

I also have faith I'd be able to read Mala correctly as the game goes on, and if she is town, Id very much like her to be alive because scum will be forced to deal with the pairing.

[Flavor Leaf]

Roden's accusations against Mala are all *true*. Lurking out when there is pressure is extremely wolfy. Being disengaged in the way Mala has been - is extremely wolfy.

this just makes me feel Roden's scum style is to push faults in townies play, which is solid.

So this in itself makes me believe that Roden is scum.

I'm likely not going to vote off my wagon from earlier today, so idk why you're continuously trying to convince me.



You also threatened a Mala scum flip directly into FL, which is a surface level analysis.

So idk why you thought that was a good action to take.

[Flavor Leaf]

spent way more time posting than i expected to right now.

[koopashell]

So no in game reason? Got it.
I'm going to continue pushing this slot. If you think she is so town - she can post her way out of it.

[koopashell]

No. I looked at Roden's wolf games. This is not in his reasonable wolf range.

You are trying to bend reality.

[koopashell]

@Roden, join me on Mala. We can make this chain wolf flip happen.

[koopashell]

I don't believe "what ifs" and the such are effective ways to read people so your reasoning for Roden is all bunk to me.

[Flavor Leaf]

So no in game reason? Got it.
I'm going to continue pushing this slot. If you think she is so town - she can post her way out of it.

Eh, misrep, but I don't mind the outcome of it all.

It's specifically in-game reasons mixed in with some meta, which I admit, I don't like.

But this is a contradictory post by someone like you who constantly uses meta.

Now you've outed yourself as someone who only cares about meta when it's coming from you.


@Mathblade - when you get the chance, can you look into the times Koopa's flip flopped and see if you can find any correlation there. There's a chance they're a strong scum player who is capable of doing this on Day 1.

I'm seeing a possible Koopa/Roden possibility, but that doesn't make too much sense with the HEM protection from earlier, I guess.

The way Koopa throws those threats around along with the PR claim specifically to empower a 1v1 just don't sit right with me.

[koopashell]

And now you're trying to turn Mathblade against me, huh?

You are trying your utmost to discredit ANYONE going near Mala without a real reason to townread Mala.

Begone.

[Flavor Leaf]

And now you're trying to turn Mathblade against me, huh?

Misrep ^

[Scorpious]

Koopa,
How much - I guess a percentage have you used meta to sort this game… not a test. Just curiosity..

[Flavor Leaf]

You are trying your utmost to discredit ANYONE going near Mala without a real reason to townread Mala.

Yeah, if her and I were S/S, I'd be able to defend her much easier, I bet.

I already stated that if she is scum, I'm pocketed. Which you refuse to acknowledge.

I'm very aware that I could be pocketed by her, which I have stated multiple times, meaning that I see a world where she is scum.

But the sheer effect of a pocket is so the player getting pocketed makes it so they trust the player, and that's just where we're at, at this point.

[koopashell]

Spiritual vote on Malakittens

consider that i have two "votes". Malakittens and koopashell.

Mala villagery tho, why do you want to vote only villagers mr monkey?

villagey how?

Flavor Leaf
Most Cunning Manipulator
Don Corleone
A guy smoking a cigarette rolling his eye on you
Location: San Francisco

Yep. I can trust this guy.

VOTE: Malakittens

koopa said they'll give me scum by page 10, so I'll wait until then

Every

Spiritual vote on Malakittens

Malashell

I don't like being shipped with random ppl i don't know.

sorrynotsorry.

i also think malakittens is addressing JV as if they already know JV is town and is trying to get their trust. that's a very weak read tho, and it seems like there's background there.

I have played with JV twice so far; both times I have been scum. So there's the potential that he might vote me right off the bat which is fair considering that I been scum twice so far now against him.

This feels very self conscious.

VOTE: Malakittens

I don't see the correlation between self consciousness and wolfiness, unless you are saying Mala is normally *not* self conscious as villager.
Is that something you have seen success with using to read people on this site, Roden?

Idk who's alt you are but this post is skeeving me out for some reason

Last time I played with Mala, she rolled scum, and her day play felt very self conscious there as well, with a pinch of "I don't do X as scum"

I am an alt, in the sense I am not using the name normally associated with my main identity, but I am a stranger to this website.

Re:Mala; Could you say the same is absent from their town meta as well, because you have only opened up the possibility of this being their wolfgame based on this minor tell, but it is only useful if it is a polarized tell.

Last town game she played was very aggressive and solvey. I wouldn't call it night and day, but her playstyle differences are noticeable in hindsight.

Self-consciousness isn't a scumtell IMHO.
I don't know how koopa "reads from the hip" on pages 1-2 and expects to be accurate in any way.

It's not, but apparently people think it's cool in order to use it as a scum tell, nor is being aggressive or defensive

but then when you go "its a rl thing"

thats frowned upon too

so lets move the topic along

if we dont want to move this topic along then just lim me now and get it over with

Why are you going full AtE and asking to die on page 4??

because i'm having flashbacks from when greeting & I went head to head and then got warned by the site mods

I'm just really not in the mood for it again

You were scum there though...?

Single

Catching up a bit…

Koopa's gonna be hard to read

Don’t think so.

I have played with JV twice so far; both times I have been scum. So there's the potential that he might vote me right off the bat which is fair considering that I been scum twice so far now against him.

Why does that matter? So what if he votes you? Do you always do that for people you’ve played with?

You know HEM made a good point when he said it sounded like you were addressing JV almost like you knew he was already town and didn’t want the smoke.

I’ve never played with you (that I can remember) but I would assume town!you maybe wouldn’t care that much.

tbh if i was self conscious i prob wouldnt have posted my first post
just saying

And this is a contradiction.

73 and 74 ping me. Like the questions are kinda meh. Like almost like once they answer then what? They don’t seem like sorting questions. Feels like busywork.

I’m gonna place 77 82 and 83 in the townbin pile for now.

Geez 108 is screaming at me dude.

VOTE: koopa

Ftr, I’m kinda in between JV and Roden when it comes to Mala. Like I feel the towny frustration with the posts, but can also see how the self consciousness can be attributed to a scum!mala.

Person

VOTE: Mala

I don't want to vote you out - I want to vote Mala out and when they flip wolf we can vote you out for very overtly defending them.

If mala flips town, you can be town.

But as of right now - Mala is a 2 for 1 deal for me. Ya dig?

Mala's been under the radar this whole game and you still are trying to drag her along as if she has been towny enough to defend.

Question to all: Who here townreads Malakittens? If so, why?

Who has pushed mala has been instigated to be wagoned by Flavor at some point - Italiano not so much because they dropped the scumread.


HEM, Roden, Myself.

This is Flavor's MO this whole dayphase.

He cannot state an actual read on Mala and yet everyone who dares go against mala mysteriously starts getting pushed by Flavor Leaf - it is not genuine.

Flavor was fine with me up until now when I was insistent on voting Mala, a slot he insists is null to him but now wants to instigate Mathblade into pushing me.

Your tricks do not work on players like me. I will throw back 5x the WIM because I am town.

[Flavor Leaf]

You still have much to learn, young koopaling. Especially if Mala is actually scum here.

[koopashell]

And now you're trying to turn Mathblade against me, huh?

Misrep ^

What am I misrepresenting?

Pray tell - please tell me the intention of you going to mathblade with that - are you trying to get him to townread me here?

[Flavor Leaf]

@Koopa - Yeah, that's a solid case for Mala scum-FL pocketed, not for Mala scum-FL scum.

[koopashell]

You should have let Mala die to reduce variance. You are the one who still has much to learn about playing wolf.

[koopashell]

How are you pocketed? What is so towny about Mala that you are defending her?

[koopashell]

Nonsensical.

[koopashell]

Koopa,
How much - I guess a percentage have you used meta to sort this game… not a test. Just curiosity..

What is your read on Mala.

[Flavor Leaf]

And now you're trying to turn Mathblade against me, huh?

Misrep ^

What am I misrepresenting?

Pray tell - please tell me the intention of you going to mathblade with that - are you trying to get him to townread me here?

Because Mathblade's willing to do the work, and is someone I know how they think, so I get to see their thoughts since they are outside the situation and I get them to take another stance, helping me read you and them simultaneously.

You really need to learn how to look outside of the box.

[koopashell]

You are trying your utmost to discredit ANYONE going near Mala without a real reason to townread Mala.

Yeah, if her and I were S/S, I'd be able to defend her much easier, I bet.

I already stated that if she is scum, I'm pocketed. Which you refuse to acknowledge.

I'm very aware that I could be pocketed by her, which I have stated multiple times, meaning that I see a world where she is scum.

But the sheer effect of a pocket is so the player getting pocketed makes it so they trust the player, and that's just where we're at, at this point.

Flavor HAS done very well defending Mala - trying to downplay how much damage to the gamestate he has done to distract from a Mala wagon.

He cannot claim why he townreads mala but is defending her as if she is locktown.

This is self contradicting in an extremely wolfy way.

[koopashell]

Or maybe Mathblade is a player you can easily pocket and will tunnel me for you and that's what you're hoping for.

I am not even voting YOU right now. I am voting Mala and I want Mala dead. Get to work reevalling mala if youre so concerned you might be wrong.

[Flavor Leaf]

How are you pocketed? What is so towny about Mala that you are defending her?

Idk, but I am town. I just dont see the scumminess.

A couple times throughout the game we had similar thoughts, like when we got the ping for KoopaTown.

Not hard to see why I could be pocketed here, we've also already talked about how we met irl in 2014.

Idk, if you can't see it, I'm not gonna be the one that gets you to here.