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Post Post #1200 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:11 pm

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Ok, here are my current feelings:

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I'd probably be willing to lim Prism if people won't come over to fire here. I think Prism has been a bit static for a long ass time now, the mech points away from her being town, and frankly, I don't want to read Prism/Ari fighting for anymore days because it's fucking annoying.
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Post Post #1201 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:13 pm

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In post 1199, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1160, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 1156, Dwlee99 wrote:Do not follow why people want to lim Baltar
he's scummy and skitter got less scummy
Does he ever even give a reason for this? This is a read of convenience. How the fuck did I get more scummy when I wasn't even able to start posting until this afternoon?
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Post Post #1202 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:14 pm

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In post 1196, skitter30 wrote:And i think scum were trying to flip me more than pocket me .... why would they be pocketing me here ... ?
The absolute best time to pocket anybody is when they are on the ropes. You want to build that bridge when the victim is at their weakest so they feel like they need you. Worst case scenario, town still plows through the yeet and you get to say "I told you they were town!"
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Post Post #1203 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:19 pm

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Fire is like a cup of chamomile tea this game. Absolutely the most boring tea ever made.

he is saying friendly things and not mixing it up with anyone. Despite taking multiple shots at me over the day, he never votes me until Datisi does?

he has some "yeah I feel that way too" stuff toward Datisi and Suichi as well which struck me as pockety.

I sort of wrote fire's boring play off early as his typical slowness to get into the game, but based on the PoE of my town reads, he's most likely just scum here trying to be the wallpaper.
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Post Post #1204 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:22 pm

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does fire ever take a stance on Prism in this game?
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Post Post #1205 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:24 pm

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In post 1200, VP Baltar wrote:I don't want to read Prism/Ari fighting for anymore days because it's fucking annoying.
I'm done fighting with Prism.
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Post Post #1206 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:24 pm

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In post 1202, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1196, skitter30 wrote:And i think scum were trying to flip me more than pocket me .... why would they be pocketing me here ... ?
The absolute best time to pocket anybody is when they are on the ropes. You want to build that bridge when the victim is at their weakest so they feel like they need you. Worst case scenario, town still plows through the yeet and you get to say "I told you they were town!"
? That's a really good time to flip them, no?
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Post Post #1207 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:24 pm

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Only friendly banter from my end from now on
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Post Post #1208 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:28 pm

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In post 1206, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1202, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1196, skitter30 wrote:And i think scum were trying to flip me more than pocket me .... why would they be pocketing me here ... ?
The absolute best time to pocket anybody is when they are on the ropes. You want to build that bridge when the victim is at their weakest so they feel like they need you. Worst case scenario, town still plows through the yeet and you get to say "I told you they were town!"
? That's a really good time to flip them, no?
Depends, I think you're a good player and if I was scum, I'd want you in my pocket.
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Post Post #1209 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:30 pm

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skitter, do you actually see progression in fire's read on you or just him saying "she's less scummy now"?
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Post Post #1210 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:30 pm

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skitter, do you actually see progression in fire's read on you or just him saying "she's less scummy now"?
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Post Post #1211 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:31 pm

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In post 1201, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1199, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1160, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 1156, Dwlee99 wrote:Do not follow why people want to lim Baltar
he's scummy and skitter got less scummy
Does he ever even give a reason for this? This is a read of convenience. How the fuck did I get more scummy when I wasn't even able to start posting until this afternoon?
never said you got more scummy
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Post Post #1212 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:38 pm

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In post 1211, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 1201, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1199, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1160, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 1156, Dwlee99 wrote:Do not follow why people want to lim Baltar
he's scummy and skitter got less scummy
Does he ever even give a reason for this? This is a read of convenience. How the fuck did I get more scummy when I wasn't even able to start posting until this afternoon?
never said you got more scummy
ok, fine.

why did it take datisi voting me before you were finally willing to vote me?
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Post Post #1213 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:39 pm

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I'm home and catching up now.

I swear to God more mafia posts get made and serious reading done during Monday work hours than the rest of the week combined
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Post Post #1214 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:39 pm

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In post 1204, VP Baltar wrote:does fire ever take a stance on Prism in this game?
no, not really. my impression of prism so far is that i don't feel like she's someone i can be very confident in a read in either direction, and im not likely to catch her as scum unless its later in the game and looking at more positional stuff. im not gonna pretend to have a solid stance on her yet, but i plan to keep an eye in that direction
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Post Post #1215 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:39 pm

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In post 1210, VP Baltar wrote:skitter, do you actually see progression in fire's read on you or just him saying "she's less scummy now"?
He had a few posts along thosw lines, and i think its a townie read because i think scum continues to push me there, and doesnt really back off ...

Pedit i know >.>
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Post Post #1216 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:42 pm

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In post 1215, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1210, VP Baltar wrote:skitter, do you actually see progression in fire's read on you or just him saying "she's less scummy now"?
He had a few posts along thosw lines, and i think its a townie read because i think scum continues to push me there, and doesnt really back off ...

Pedit i know >.>
I can't remember, did you keep calling me scum after I was the first person to back off you?
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Post Post #1217 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:43 pm

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In post 1212, VP Baltar wrote:ok, fine.

why did it take datisi voting me before you were finally willing to vote me?
datisi is an inspiration and gives me the courage to fight on

actual answer is that i was also feeling like skitter's response to the latest pressure was kinda towny, and him voting you meant that it was possible to wagon you and see where that goes. i have been wanting to wagon you or skitter for a while now, i started with skitter but was happy going either way
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Post Post #1218 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:47 pm

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In post 1217, fireisredsir wrote:i have been wanting to wagon you or skitter for a while now, i started with skitter but was happy going either way
Why not just start it if you wanted it for awhile
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Post Post #1219 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:47 pm

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In post 1215, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1210, VP Baltar wrote:skitter, do you actually see progression in fire's read on you or just him saying "she's less scummy now"?
He had a few posts along thosw lines, and i think its a townie read because i think scum continues to push me there, and doesnt really back off ...

Pedit i know >.>
I can't wait for the Prism lecture about the reflexive stepback being a staple of good scum play
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Post Post #1220 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:48 pm

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Does anyone actually think VPB is asking questions in good faith trying to figure things out
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Post Post #1221 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:48 pm

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In post 1218, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1217, fireisredsir wrote:i have been wanting to wagon you or skitter for a while now, i started with skitter but was happy going either way
Why not just start it if you wanted it for awhile
bc i liked skitter wagon more until her response swayed me
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Post Post #1222 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:49 pm

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In post 1220, Aristeia wrote:Does anyone actually think VPB is asking questions in good faith trying to figure things out
i think its possible enough that i plan to continue answering them
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Post Post #1223 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:49 pm

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I actually don't think fireisredsir is experienced enough to have it cleanly in the repertoire but I'd have to see the full context.

re: Reflective stepback
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Post Post #1224 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:50 pm

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I'm not great at spelling thank you
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