Micro 1052: Lake Melancholy [END]

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Vote Count 1.17

Page 17 of

Jerome's Journal: An Encyclopedia of Cryptids and Other Mythical Creatures

VP Baltar [2]:

fireisredsir, Aristeia

Enchant [2]:

Dwlee99, Prism,

Dwlee99 [1]:

Enchant

Datisi [1]:

Skitter30

Fireisredsir [1]:

VP Baltar

Not Voting [2]:

Shuichi Saihara, Datisi

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April 22nd

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Mod Notes:

All Vote Counts are linked on the first post.

Skitter30 is V/LA on Friday/Saturday.

[fireisredsir]

i think a town vp would be partner reading me with prism here. he has everyone as a townread except me, prism, shuichi, and im apparently pocketing shuichi. i haven't really engaged with prism much or talked about her, and when he poked about it i gave a pretty noncommittal answer. but he let that go, which i found strange

maybe he hasn't commented on that explicitly bc he knows prism would object to that idea

[VP Baltar]

i think a town vp would be partner reading me with prism here. he has everyone as a townread except me, prism, shuichi, and im apparently pocketing shuichi. i haven't really engaged with prism much or talked about her, and when he poked about it i gave a pretty noncommittal answer. but he let that go, which i found strange

maybe he hasn't commented on that explicitly bc he knows prism would object to that idea

Where did I say that's off the table?

[Prism]

1005 from fireisred into 1008 from Shuichi has me wondering if it was coordinated, but probably not.

1008 is uncharitable and focused on tone over any real depth of read, also unaccompanied by a vote, which is impressive since Shuichi apparently found no town posts in the ISO but gave benefit of the doubt anyway. Part about TvT/busywork was okay but much came from me/Aristeia chasing her down block, very expected regardless of alignment at that juncture.

[Prism]

And i'll just claim: vt

Jesus fucking christ we are actually massclaiming Day 1 OK

[Shuichi Saihara]

focused on tone

Seems like you aren't going to like my gameplay, like, at all then.

[fireisredsir]

Where did I say that's off the table?

you didn't (and that's not what I said), but i didn't see you explicitly bring it up either, and i think that would have been your natural town response to my 1214 if your stated reads are honest

[Shuichi Saihara]

unaccompanied by a vote

I have no intention of voting for anyone right now as there is still work I want to get done first

[Prism]

focused on tone

Seems like you aren't going to like my gameplay, like, at all then.

I'll probably love it when I roll scum!

[VP Baltar]

Where did I say that's off the table?

you didn't (and that's not what I said), but i didn't see you explicitly bring it up either, and i think that would have been your natural town response to my 1214 if your stated reads are honest

You cannot honestly believe this is a good point you are making.

[skitter30]

For example, his read on ceph just makes sense: it's a very +townie thought process to townread someone for basicslly having similar thoughts as you at the same time as you (i.e. they both came to the scum-me read at roughly the same time, independantly, and fire townreads ceph for that). The read is wrong, sure, but its a townie thought process

i thought you meant the read on you was wrong here, but on reread it looks like you're saying the read on shuichi? clarify pls and if so then why

Basically, what i was saying is that your read on ceph is townie: you both mutually came to a scumread on me at the same time, and you townread ceph for having a similar thought process at a similar time as you
That is a townie thoughr process imo

[fireisredsir]

You cannot honestly believe this is a good point you are making.

why isn't it? i think you are not showing the townie thought process that you should be having, and there is potential scum motivation behind the actions

[fireisredsir]

Basically, what i was saying is that your read on ceph is townie: you both mutually came to a scumread on me at the same time, and you townread ceph for having a similar thought process at a similar time as you
That is a townie thoughr process imo

yes i got that much, which read were you saying was wrong tho?

[skitter30]

And i'll just claim: vt

Jesus fucking christ we are actually massclaiming Day 1 OK

I thought i had more votes on me >.>

[skitter30]

And i'll just claim: vt

Jesus fucking christ we are actually massclaiming Day 1 OK

I thought i had more votes on me >.>

Pedit you two calling me scum

[Prism]

Ok dats:
- he's exuding a vibe of 'i hate this game' which i think strongly correlates with scum-him, ari agrees that he has this vibe but was telling me it isnt scum-indicative so i backed off. I still strongly think this is +scum for him
- his reads are incidental and dont make sense, ex: prism read, ex: read on me
-- read on me has been waffle-y and he keeps changing it, often in accordance with how big my wagon is / how easy i am to push
-- i dont think he sincerely scumreads me here. His read basically boils down to 'i'm scumreading him for nonsense' *while acknowledging* that he thinks town-me has often done that before
-- even if that is his read on me, i dont think town-him chooses to push me for that reason on day1, whereas scum-him will absolutely take advantage of the existing wagon
- in general the rest of his reads are incidental and weak (if they exist at all) ... his dwlee read is that he doesnt think scum-dwlee pushes enchant today which is just ???? why is that even remotely town indicative ... ???

First point have been over and I'm with Ari.

Second point I want more elaboration to why his on me doesn't make sense; I have my understanding of it but iirc your vote was spurred more by my swap to you than by my statements.

Third/Fourth is pretty standard Datisi. Fifth I wasn't thrilled by the Dwlee townread either, might revisit.

[Prism]

Either way i gived it thought and i think, if gived choice from Ascetic and novice Mailman, i elim novice mailman like 90% times.

????????? Literally why, scorching hot take.

It is very unclear why you have chosen to die on this hill of me being town.

[Prism]

i mean this is stupid because i don't even WANT to push skitter anymore but i will still have to defend myself against the tiger because she's gonna say my turnaround was because i got scared of her or something and like

pain

I don't like this. Vaguely reactive after my point about insecurity/fear of rolling scum resulting in overshooting the defensive response to me.

[VP Baltar]

You cannot honestly believe this is a good point you are making.

why isn't it? i think you are not showing the townie thought process that you should be having, and there is potential scum motivation behind the actions

First, I never said I wasn't thinking that. Second, no clue why you think I'm afraid of prism. Never played with her. I'm not, but thanks for the concern. Third, Prism is catching up and has previously said she scum read you. She's not my focus right now, you are. And who knows, maybe she'll surprise me here with some good takes.

This is legitimately a silly take to try to ascribe scum motivation

[fireisredsir]

First, I never said I wasn't thinking that.

well, make it explicit then, were you/are you thinking that?

[Prism]

Spoiler: Ari shit

she probably will hate winning this way as scum more than I will hate losing to her as town.

? bruh you've heard me emphasize across 5-8 games that I unashamedly put tar on the baseball and will frequently intentionally make players miserable to win, when/if player throw games i snatch it with a SMILE

why i didn't give a shit about n1ing you in D&C, and why cat doesn't give a shit about n1ing me immediately if I don't punish him day 1

[VP Baltar]

Null:
Suichi

Prism

Scum:

fire

I'd probably be willing to lim Prism

if people won't come over to fire here. I think Prism has been a bit static for a long ass time now, the mech points away from her being town, and frankly, I don't want to read Prism/Ari fighting for anymore days because it's fucking annoying.

[VP Baltar]

Wild fucking take to be like "vp has prism in second to bottom and says will lim...he prolly scared"

[fireisredsir]

that's not what i said either, like at all. i said that i think she would object to you pairing me with her, not to you scumreading her

[Prism]

i also don't really think that the reasons you are casing dats are very scummy things in this specific game, skitter. like, weak reads, self-doubt, even the existential dread. im feeling most of those things as well so i don't really see it as that scummy. and its not like he's going over the top in playing it up, if he were i could totally see how that's scummy behavior, but i don't feel an overabundance of woe is me.

i think it would be believable that he would imitate those vibes as scum, but it's kind of a risky play unless he really sells it hard and i don't think he is, so the alternative would be to just project more confidence. there's been times when he has (someone said "bluster-y"?) but its always felt pretty thin and transparent, and his honest thoughts shine through pretty easily and quickly. compare to when he pushed on fua in the large, that felt blustery but he went like all in on it and really played it up

so the being kind of in the middle here just reads more as honest to me but trying at times to be good strong town player even when he doesn't fully believe in his own reads

+town post from fire IMO even though I disagree w//r/t him faking more confidence. Good process.