Mini 2270: Spring Fling!

[Firebringer]

no i skimmed first twenty pages. Tbh i don't really remember much from it.

[Firebringer]

no offense to most yall, but it wasn't a very entertaining read

[Dunnstral]

i was super disappointed datisi and dunn ended up pairing.

OK Why?

How did you hone in on me pairing with Datisi in the 1 minute you've been here?

did u not notice me saying that i had been skim reading this game prior to me ever replacing in? i wanted to play in this originally

I will once again point out that you were drawn to the pairing between me and Datisi, which was not mentioned at all during the first twenty pages.

[Dunnstral]

Noraa's reads were basically: Datisi town, Dunnstral scum, Lukewarm town. They didn't have a lot of depth beyond those reads.

You entered the game and said you didn't like the pairing between Datisi and Dunnstral because you townread Datisi, and that Lukewarm is town

Is that a coincidence?

[Firebringer]

I will once again point out that you were drawn to the pairing between me and Datisi, which was not mentioned at all during the first twenty pages.

Yeah i was checking the thread after i did skim of first twenty.

What kind of argument are we getting in here.
Are we presuming i am lying about what i did BEFORE i joined the game? Like u think scum me makes shit up about this?

I read first twenty pages.
I was regularly just checking the thread at other points but not really reading and saw ur pair also.
I don't know what happened around ur pair but i thought it was odd besides it being a weird pair.

[Firebringer]

because you townread Datisi

I never said this. I actually thought the pair was so odd I was thinking dats could be scum before i even got a role pm.

[Firebringer]

And dunn. I townread u.
Stop being so wrong about shit

[Dunnstral]

wanted to dance with datisi

[Firebringer]

i get it dunn, norra was pushing u with bs. Would appreciate it u not treat me like im some hostile entity to u.

@dunn If u haven't realized i like to dance with the players I very much enjoy after the 3-5 years we played together and the countless dance games we have participated in.

I am utterly shocked at how little u know me.

[Dunnstral]

i get it dunn, norra was pushing u with bs. Would appreciate it u not treat me like im some hostile entity to u.

OK, you're not.

I think that some of the things you've said since replacing in looks like your knowledge of the game doesn't match up with what you are claiming, and I was pointing them out.

[Firebringer]

it looked like nitpicking in order to push me, but w/e
I know my information is completely jumbled because a) skim b) random checkins at randomly with no context of surrounding c) even my skim didn't leave me lot of info.
I almost tempted to do a full actual read. So i don't have to get into this kind of argument again.

My own fault for not just actually doing the read so we didn't get into this argument.

[Firebringer]

i have to revise my ydra read. Disappointing

[Firebringer]

can someone just write me a one page guide on how to scumhunt or form rational thoughts again my mind is shot for the night

prism ur taking the spot of ydra just for this post.

[Cephrir]

no offense to most yall, but it wasn't a very entertaining read

duh i wasn't even here for most of it

[Bell]

No offense taken, as long as I’m entertained, that’s enough.

[Bell]

I’m very scummy this game. Ydrasse is not wrong.
Now, obviously since I’m scum I would argue to the ends of the earth for ydra being town.
Because that’s my win con.

*confused at where fire was going with that one*

No comment on the rep. I echo what Dunn said. AI, but not sure which way. But she doesn’t have a particular reluctance to rep as early alignment.

HI FB.

[Bell]

Dunn is cracking my SR of him. But I immediately ask you forget this if FB flips town.
It never happened.

[fireisredsir]

shit is cephrir scum.
fire u gotta be careful

uh oh!!!

[fireisredsir]

i feel bad that people are calling you FB now when you are clearly the original fire

maybe i should be FIRS

no thats weird

[mykonian]

Do the merciful thing Mala, no sense in letting Firebringer have to get into the game himself. I think the replace out is w/e, Noraa never really got a hook into this game, it went rather past them. Someone who's more versed in their meta could say if they have games where they are happy to stay on the outside of the town and let things be, but my feeling was this wasn't really the case and they need to be able to make people dance to their tune. (About the latter, I think I picked something up during skimming and I'll see if can make a bigger post about that)

None of which was happening in this game so it might just be stressful to see the game going away from you and people not really taking you seriously.

Still a shitty thing to do to Firebringer who's replacing in. I'd otherwise have preferred a Luke elimination, but Noraa is fine in this circumstance. Both were fine with me anyway and this seems convenient.

[Dunnstral]

Noraa never really got a hook into this game, it went rather past them. Someone who's more versed in their meta could say if they have games where they are happy to stay on the outside of the town and let things be, but my feeling was this wasn't really the case and they need to be able to make people dance to their tune.

I want to say that this is untrue starting from around the time you left, but their focus this game has been very narrow and there are a lot of players they never acknowledged or tried to sort, and a lot of their play seemed to be based on survival

[mykonian]

ok, so this isn't the first post Noraa makes about Dunn, but I think the tone is interesting and it's the biggest one of the early game.

ok read breakdown
prism's SR on me is the worst because it's very sudden and doesn't feel genuine. like the thing is this idea of me wanting to beat good players is meh at best in general. on top of that, prism hasn't really played with me much so having that much confidence in a meta tell like that is weird. i liked the intreactions with me re: andante pairing but pairing with andante is still something that just doesn't sit well with me. there's not much other content that can be juiced out of that pairing, but it's just ... a bad feeling. it feels like the exact move an experienced scum player would pull and I cant stop thinking that.

everyone TRing Dunn is a bad look on it's own. In what game has town dunn ever been townread this way?

like if the playlist doesnt look like Cabd ffery peta LLD etc, it doesn't really happen. Obviously this is a very 1 dimension way to explain this read, but explaining it further is hard and I do want to wait for more dunn content to get the most out of the ISO.

Lukewarm feels very ... weird tonally. But I think Lukewarm becomes clear with time. So like if it's like day 3 and more than half of the playerlist thinks Lukewarm is scum, eliminate, no questions asked.

Ydrasse I initially thought was town (after all of the assuming i mean) for all of the interactions with me, but I'm actually inclined to take it back. Scum ydrasse is capable of so much that I shouldn't carelessly give a town pass before day 2 at the very least.

and now im bored and dont want to finish this. i might come back and finish things later

So either Dunn is coasting and Noraa is the only one spotting this, or there's just not that much happening there and Noraa is pushing this into existence. I think the latter part of the bolded sentence felt like manipulation. There's plenty townreads floating around in all games. This is planting seeds of doubt rather than scumhunting.

But as of now, Noraa isn't really going hardcore for it yet:



Noraa does completely flip the switch after Enchant and I pair. With Cephrir being a pretty slam dunk for a pairing at some point, if not for the game alone then socially, It's Noraa, Luke and Dunn in the mix and I think the nerves are showing. It's not Dunn posting something new, it's Noraa going back to read the game and now being convinced it must be Dunn.

In the pages between Noraa's complaint about everybody townreading Dunn and them flipping the switch town isn't really all that bothered about Dunn either. Mala has a null read, some others lean town at times. I'm not saying Dunn's town, as said, they might very well be coasting at that time, but this is clearly Noraa pushing that case completely in vacuum. It takes a lot of very convinced Noraa posting for the sentiment to get any traction.

When skimming this it felt very engineered, and manipulative, though I got the feeling Noraa might be manipulative as town as well. I don't think up till the first day I wasn't there anymore it doesn't say much about Dunn, tomorrow I'd like to read back to how they actually weathered the storm of today and what role Datisi played in it.

[Dunnstral]

"Dunn" appears 217 times in Lukewarm's iso, somehow even beating Noraa

As for myself, Noraa appears in my iso 92 times and Luke appears in my iso 74 times

Does this mean anything? Maybe. Their focus has been a lot more narrow, focused almost exclusively on myself ever since it came down to the final few gentlemen.

[mykonian]

Their focus has been a lot more narrow, focused almost exclusively on myself ever since it came down to the final few gentlemen.

yup, it was difficult to miss while just skimming what was going on. It felt very survivalistic.

Which again, can happily be meta, if you want to look for an excuse. Or it's just scummy if you don't. I don't think it was natural in either case.

[mykonian]

I think Luke's play around Dunnstral feels very Luke. I don't think it's that remarkable given their play.

The amount of hits in his iso is because they keeps using the name in sentences too, and then goes back and forwards with reads like they've done all game. I'm not fond of it, I struggle to read it, I think some of it I gut read scum, but the more I read it the more I think I wasn't quite fair about Luke.

They might be town after all. Before the weekend I think I would've fine with us default eliminating Luke but Noraa just feels better now.