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Day 2 Count III

Tracer Bullet

(E-2) - Ircher, Toogeloo

Toogeloo

(E-3) - Tracer Bullet

Not Voting

- NorwegianboyEE, RCEnigma, Something_Smart, Toogeloo, Tracer Bullet, Wallflower

Notes

• My mod ISO is here.
  
• With 7 remaining, it takes 4 to form a majority.
  
• Toogeloo is V/LA for (expired on 2022-04-18 23:59:59).

The

Day

concludes in (expired on 2022-04-23 14:11:33).

[Ircher]

do you have examples of how I lied and manipulated in a way that proves I'm scum? i'm always interested in that.

There are tons of examples of you lying about the game state that I've already pointed out. For instance, 641 where you claim that people aren't bothering to play.

btw I think it's funny you think I'm misrepresenting the game state when literally nobody is posting but go off champ

Yes, things slowed down because it was a holiday (Easter, Passover, etc.) This is further evidenced by the fact that two players declared V/LA over the weekend.

We're killing Tracer or Toogeloo today.

Do you really think this is 1 for 1 or just that tracer is scum?

I think the two have an 80% chance of 1 scum among them based on the timing and forming of the Meg wagon.

I'm still convinced tracer/ss/wall has 1 if not both scum.

My scumread on them is low in confidence but my pool is what it is because I can consider myself norwee and Ircher all town. If I make a leap on you as town that's all that's left. I'm not fully there, but I do keep flipping back and forth.

I noticed you excluded Toogeloo from your pool. Why?

If Norwe-scum/Tracer-town, best to let Tracer go.

I'm not sure I'm following your logic fully here. The way I see it, the Meg wagon wouldn't have launched off the ground without NorwegianBoy's support. To be clear here, I'm not necessarily condemning as "guilty by association" here for that, but I don't see how it makes NorwegianBoy town here. I agree though with your logic for the S/S case.

Tracer seems to be genuinely invested in affecting the day's outcome which I don't think he would always feel the need to do as scum,

I think the worst gave a pretty good rebuttal of this point in 691.

How about we ask questions that matter.

Who do people think Tracer would have as an viable partner if we were to assume he’s scum? I think that’s a good way to solve.
I’d analyze now but i’m typing this on my phone in 2 AM.

I'd have to think about this.

I'd say Smart would fit, but really, Smart is a viable scum partner for anyone here. I'd say that you and Tracer were probably too synced D1 to be scum together. Not impossible but unlikely. Wallflower is just town, so I'm not considering that as an option either.

[Something_Smart]

I think the worst gave a pretty good rebuttal of this point in 691.

I guess? Pooky is an extremely adaptable scum player though. I don't think he would necessarily push the game forward if he thought it would be to his detriment, and I think it probably was to his detriment overall if he's scum.

[Something_Smart]

Wallflower is just town

Could you give me the tl;dr on this read?

[Ircher]

It's their posts from 129 to 156. It's got that "inexperienced" feel but it comes across in a natural and genuine way. (Yes, there's the case to be made that scum!Wallflower does it for the town cred, but I've weighed the two possibilities and based on my understnading, it comes out strongly in favor of Wall being town here.) Aside from that, they've given a steady stream of reads that flow in a logical progression. I don't see an agenda from the slot but rather a genuine curiosity.

[Tracer Bullet]

are you just taking duckie's word for it or have you actually read any of my scum games for yourself

[Tracer Bullet]

here's my last completed scum game:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=88618

Day 1 stalls for town.

Read my Day 1 play

its literally me doing absolutely nothing

[Tracer Bullet]

here's the game completed before that:

I'm in a hydra with Ydra and we shitpost random art and then quickhammer someone

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

[Tracer Bullet]

like if the town isn't doing shit

I don't need to do shit either

[Tracer Bullet]

There are tons of examples of you lying about the game state that I've already pointed out. For instance, 641 where you claim that people aren't bothering to play.

this is my complaint 634

"what r u talking about can't be bothered

im like the only person other than norwee and you who is actually moving vote around and trying to get an elim done.

is ircher even playing? lol
duckie is tunneled
meg hasn't posted in forever
SS has never voted or done anything cuz he's SS and he's taken a vow of never doing anything
Tooge popped in and said oh ill vote this cuz its not me - said nothing about SS.
I dont even remember who the 6th person on this list is"

-Pooky


Which of those characterizations is inaccurate Ircher?

[Tracer Bullet]

like do you think I have restless leg syndrome and I have to compulsively post or some bullshit when I'm mafia?

I am perfectly fine sitting still and doing nothing if I am not being suspected as scum.

I'm like a fucking tree.

[Tracer Bullet]

like look at this meg iso:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go


25 posts before I started wagonning there.

Most of them are just comments about nothing.

They literally didn't do anything with their vote the entire fucking day.

They voteplanted on SS for "pressure"

when SS did nothing

they came abd posted a readlist where they dont blame SS for doing nothing

SO WHAT WAS EVEN THE POINT OF PUTTING A VOTE ON SS IN THE FIRST PLACE

thats why I pushed Meg - because Meg literally did nothing and that's perfectly fine for scum to do because scum dont need to do anything if they are not suspected.

Was I wrong? Yea I was wrong. But the fact remains Meg!town put their vote on SS for most of the day and then randomly showed up at the end, posted a shitty readlist with barely any conclusions and then decided to vote for me because "i want to sheep the conftown" like how the fuck am i supposed to look at that and not think "wow that looks like a scumfuck"

[Tracer Bullet]

and trust me

I am perfectly fine playing like meg if I am scum

post a random ass readlist off random.org.

mason dude likes it

and then I sit there twiddling my thumbs doing nothing and pop up at the end and go ooooh lets sheep the conftown

like come the fuck on

[Toogeloo]

I can self meta too.

My last scum game was the Jungle of Bullshit game. I didn't even have to try, but I did. Like, I went full try hard. Before that, I was in the Color Red for half a day in the pairs game. I went full try hard there too.

The reason I hate playing Mafia is because I legit lose sleep over whether or not people can see through my bullshit. Like, I had to replace our of a Mafia game at one point because I lost sleep while I was sick, and it literally affected my health.

My scum tell is invisible to everyone, but it's simple. If I'm losing sleep over a game, I'm scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Are you suggesting we need an bedcam to see if you are losing sleep this game or not.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think the worst gave a pretty good rebuttal of this point in 691.

I guess? Pooky is an extremely adaptable scum player though. I don't think he would necessarily push the game forward if he thought it would be to his detriment, and I think it probably was to his detriment overall if he's scum.

I’m still sleepy so i read this as: "Pooky’s an adorable scum plsyer" and i was like, awww. That’s totally true!

[RCEnigma]

Are you suggesting we need an bedcam to see if you are losing sleep this game or not.

I'm not saying I'm into this. But I am saying I have $10.

[RCEnigma]

I noticed you excluded Toogeloo from your pool. Why?

I don't have a read on toog one way or the other. Like if it's between toog and tracer I'm probably going tracer. If Toog is scum +1 it has to be with norwee since that's the ONLY slot securely townread enough to give toog the leeway to do nothing.

And I townread Norway more than I town read you so.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Townread more than conf!town? There is just nor wee that’s true.

[NorwegianboyEE]

How am i supposed to scum hint if nobody calls me scum for a scummy reason so i can just zone in on them.
Sigh, guess i gotta think about this game today.

[RCEnigma]

Nor way you just made that joke.

Honestly yeah, Ircher posts and my brain goes....yeah scum made that post. Except he's town.

[Something_Smart]

I’m still sleepy so i read this as: "Pooky’s an adorable scum plsyer" and i was like, awww. That’s totally true!

Idk I watched him give Cakez PTSD in slow motion in pokemon large theme. He's adorable until he isn't.

[Wallflower]

VOTE: Tracer Bullet

E-1

[Tracer Bullet]

I’m still sleepy so i read this as: "Pooky’s an adorable scum plsyer" and i was like, awww. That’s totally true!

Idk I watched him give Cakez PTSD in slow motion in pokemon large theme. He's adorable until he isn't.

True but I spent like the first 9 days of the game just lol-catting and doing nothing because I'm very good at staying alive while doing nothing.

I don't actually pull my claws out until it's absolutely necessary and I have no issues with

doing nothing

if that's what everyone else is doing.

[Wallflower]

I absolutely want to kill Tracer or Toog today, but I also don't want to kill Tracer today, and I also don't want to kill Toog today.

And the solution is to suck it up and decide which of my towncases is weaker. Any thoughts/questions on my reasoning in 662 would be appreciated; I'm going to make an effort to dive into those reads a little more.

Going back to this, I’m interested in why you want to kill Tracer or Toog today.