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[humaneatingmonkey]

then say that, don't question the validity of the read.

let's say they were just lolling around
they made this decision knowing full well it can illicit mason/PR reaction (which it did)
why

[humaneatingmonkey]

JV something's not clicking we're not on the same plane

[humaneatingmonkey]

I think a wolf HEM is spewing NK15 as town in this scenario.
Speaking from a pre-flipped point of view.

This has absolutely nothing to do with what you said, but quoting it because it made me remember. I've been feeling that FL has been unnecessarily backing me up in everything in a way that seems to me unnatural and purposeful. I do not think they are scum but I am aware that town, including me, love to be town-read so I see it possible that my TL on them is based in that primarily and forcing me to ignore the slight red-flag of that pocket/white-knight and I would love some insight to see if I should continue to put that on the downlow and trust my soul or to follow that read to it's core and see where it lands.

haven't FL established that he likes pocketing people regardless. it's probably true.

he's only ever mean to people who disagree with him or those who scumread him.
notice he calls me monkey/HEM now

[JacksonVirgo]

then say that, don't question the validity of the read.

let's say they were just lolling around
they made this decision knowing full well it can illicit mason/PR reaction (which it did)
why

I

am

questioning the validity of the read. How do you know they made that decision knowing that it'd illicit that reaction?

[JacksonVirgo]

JV something's not clicking we're not on the same plane

Convince me then. I don't think you're going to be able to.

[humaneatingmonkey]

i think it's me who's not in this plane

i am absolutely tired, hungry, sleep-deprived, malnourished, and beat-up from a long editing session

i still have to do this for up until 25

[humaneatingmonkey]

go back to #540 to #571 and note the timing

that's not a joke at first, or at least it wasn't presented as such.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Fl is town

VOTE: Flavor Leaf
Speak plainly.

Sure will.

I think Koopa's just pocketed by ScumHuman.

Can't make it plainer than that.

I do expect to be put into the position by scum, where one or two will probably push me, then the other(s) town read me, and try to get me to push through a townie to take the heat from it.

If I'm really looking for it, I can see a possible ScumKoopa TMI'ing a TownHuman, but Koopa's vote on to me is just super bad if scum because I definitely feel there's enough momentum to take Koopa out, but that also makes me think KoopaTown if I can see that in the gamestate already.

I am very hard to pocket. I do not believe that.

i'll believe it when i see it.

You seem easy to pocket at the moment.

The issue is I think you are trying to instigate right now rather than solve, and subtly pushing me in a way that can be backpedaled later.

me instigating is me solving.

I don't believe it's been subtle. I've left you open pretty loudly.

Can you link me to a game where you do something similar as town?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=88987

i was April Ludgate, only game in the past year or so. might have had 1 more a while back, but cant remember.

This is for you Roden. Ill choose to give you half since Koopa asked for it. I was gonna just ignore your request.

Eat it up, cuz unless I'm trying to brag about a scum gambit or town epic solve, i probs wont link another due to lazy

i hate this game.

this game's pretty fun if you dont stress over reads too much. Day 1 never should overstress. Day 3+ yeah start to stress.

hah look it's another projection

he's pocketing koopa live!

@Koopa - look at me pocketing as town in that game as well.

can we stop 1v1ing my mason buddy

kthxbai

Cheers.do you think we could each have a piece of the solve btw?
I have scorpious and you have HEM?
I am going to consider we are clashing because we are on the right track in different directions.

I really don't think Scorpious is scum, and kinda would defend there even if I didnt scum read HEM. Check Scorpious out from that game I just linked. I started to town read him very strongly in the late game there.

It's possible, though, but I'm a mason so i have the different pov, obvi

oh right

UNVOTE: FL

it took tooooooo long.

also malakittens townreads FL, unstated read.
it was meant to give the impression that it was real.
a shame about the vote when he realized it.

[humaneatingmonkey]

how about now

convinced yet?

[humaneatingmonkey]

haters will say it was an obvious joke immediately and Malakittens was not building up to it.

maybe he'll eventually say it's a joke, maybe they would have double down if no one counter-claimed.

we won't know that.

i just know that malakittens' timing is too sus for it to be a town whose best interest is not to out their PRs.

[JacksonVirgo]

551 easily blends into 557 in terms of tonal "I give up" kind of thing. The kthxbye does not read to me like it was meant to be said in a way that was purposefully manipulative. Reading it back in the formulated way you've set it up, still doesn't read to me that it's malicious in nature.

560 is obviously a joke on FL's end, but you aren't casing them for it you are casing Mala so I won't add too much to this.

563 is a post I do not see happening when scum get their way outting a PR, which either means they are not scum or they're scum that did not have malicious intent behind it.

I also refuse to believe FL and Mala are scum together given post 571

[JacksonVirgo]

I can see shitty Town claiming a masonry with their town-read that's being wagoned. Regrettably done so in the past, off-site.

[JacksonVirgo]

Currently reading it as defeated Town, seeing everything fall apart (them being scum-read for their "TMI" of my alignment, and then their town-read getting attacked) threw something in there to solidify their read into the Town overall in a jokish way that they planned to retract.

[humaneatingmonkey]

551 easily blends into 557[/postthey're scum that did not have malicious intent behind it.

can you imagine

I do not see happening when scum get their way outting a PR

why

[humaneatingmonkey]

I can see shitty Town claiming a masonry with their town-read that's being wagoned. Regrettably done so in the past, off-site.

do you believe malakittens to be shitty town?

[JacksonVirgo]

551 easily blends into 557[/postthey're scum that did not have malicious intent behind it.

can you imagine

I do not see happening when scum get their way outting a PR

why

Can you like not warp my words on purpose. At fucking all. Thanks

If it's not something that has malicious intent, it is not something that I want to eliminate as eliminating based on an anti-town happening that doesn't appear to be malicious is the most stupid thing I've ever heard you try and paint on me.

Regarding second, actual real quote of mine, I do not believe it to be what scum would do because it's an obvious PR soft and scum would actually decide to ignore it and possibly retract right at that moment if they didn't want to be further scum-read because of it. Instead, they poke fun at it which, to me, shows that it was humour at it's core rather than pr-hunting.

As they would have caught it and acted appropriately to what you say their agenda was. Mason-bait and then retract.

[JacksonVirgo]

I can see shitty Town claiming a masonry with their town-read that's being wagoned. Regrettably done so in the past, off-site.

do you believe malakittens to be shitty town?

I do now looking back. Had them as a pure null read beforehand that was wagoned unjustly.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Can you like not warp my words on purpose. At fucking all. Thanks

???

[JacksonVirgo]

Can you like not warp my words on purpose. At fucking all. Thanks

???

Surely you aren't actually questioning what I am talking about when you cut out a large chunk of my quote without specifying you did so.

If you are saying that, my read on you was wrong and I will vote you on the spot.

[humaneatingmonkey]

where did i warp your words?

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: HEM
You cut out a chunk of my quote. You even failed to do so correctly and the bbcode I used was broken in ur message.

[humaneatingmonkey]

of course i did, i wanted to quote a specific part of it

[humaneatingmonkey]

why does that make me scum?

[JacksonVirgo]

of course i did, i wanted to quote a specific part of it

You quoted it so it looked as if I said they were scum that had no malicious intent behind it. That is absolutely not even remotely what I said.

[humaneatingmonkey]

oh okay

didn't mean to do that

but if you're gonna try and find any reason to vote me, please be my guest