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[Cat Scratch Fever]

VC 1.26

With 13 players, it takes 7 to make a decision. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-04-25 00:30:00).

VC

Not Known 15 [3]:

MalcolmTucker [1537], JacksonVirgo [1607], Malakittens [1806],

humaneatingmonkey [3]:

Not Known 15 [1337], koopashell [1932], MathBlade [1936]

KittyTacky [3]:

ItalianoVD [1867], FlavorLeaf [1868], Scorpious [1982]

Malakittens [2]:

humaneatingmonkey [792], Roden [804]

Scorpious [1]:

KittyTacky [1791]

Not voting [1]:

Andresvmb

[koopashell]

jv locktown

reread 1 post, I do not want that slot eliminated this game ever.

[JacksonVirgo]

jv locktown

reread 1 post, I do not want that slot eliminated this game ever.

That's quite a statement to make. Can I ask what post you reread

[Roden]

Hey Leaf, if you want to accuse me of something, then don't wait until the context of what I said gets buried. Because you pretty clearly waited until my posts got buried by other content before you tried to scum case me. You're not quoting any of the posts you think are scummy either, you're just recalling them from memory and shifting the narrative around what happened to make yourself look like a victim.

I think your main problem with me is that I'm refusing to let you get under my skin, and that I'm asking you questions that you can't answer.

[Flavor Leaf]

Why would i want your posts buried, they make you look so scummy

I’m hoping as the game goes on it becomes more obvious

[Flavor Leaf]

I’ve answered all your questions, you just didn’t like the answers. I had been staying that constantly during the Koopa vs FL because Koopa started doing the exact same thing

[Flavor Leaf]

We’re past you for now, we on kitty

[koopashell]

Flavor - Can you please do as roden requested, and quote said posts for context?

[koopashell]

You are currently deflecting the request and its pretty obvious you are doing so. Roden is the best person to evaluate how their slot has been treated - and if they're pushing you to do something simple like back up your case with quotes - If they are just a wolf bluffing, you can easily bury them this way.

If they are town who know the case is bunk - you need to actually reexamine your FOS then.

So by ignoring the request, I can only assume you wish to avoid crossing this bridge and want to refuge in audacity.

[JacksonVirgo]

koopa are you trying to push me as locktown so you aren't shot.

[Flavor Leaf]

Flavor - Can you please do as roden requested, and quote said posts for context?

if i feel like going back and looking for it sometime later.

[Roden]

Why would i want your posts buried, they make you look so scummy

I’m hoping as the game goes on it becomes more obvious

Maybe because we were in the middle of a conversation, and when I asked a question you couldn't answer, you kept dancing around it until you dipped out entirely.

How did Mala pocket you?

I've repeated my reasonings for townreading Mala 3+ times.

I'm not asking why you town read her.

I'm asking about what she did to pocket you.

You never answer this. Instead, your next post is 12 pages later, where you misrep the posts I made without quoting them.

Please, this is actually a really amazing find and reason for the 3 of us to converge into one wagon.

Can we please all pressure towards Roden? I truly think it's the best fade for the day,

Can you possibly case roden again for me, assuming I am super out of the loop cuz I am.

The case on Roden is all of the questions they choose to ask is very off during the time they are doing it, and it's likely because they're trying to put momentum towards me to help shut me down.

Also, Roden piggybacks momentum every time, hiding behind others.

They piggybacked the NK15/Hem pushes, then they piggybacked the Koopa interaction.

They also rephrase words and push things like buzzwords like manipulating into the narrative.

You want my posts buried because you're hoping people get too overwhelmed by all of the hyper posting to actually go back and read what I said. You're accusing me of things that are easily proven false when given context. If you thought my posts actually were scummy, I think it would make sense to quote them so everyone could see them.

[Flavor Leaf]

Roden, I just don't care.

Every single time you come up and discredit is after I had gone and spent hours going back and forth with others.

I'm just so over it, and not even pushing you at this point anymore.

[Roden]

Koopa, don't try to 1v1 Leaf. His entire strategy is to rile up anyone who goes against him so that no one will want to listen to them. I know it sucks but if you argue with him, he's going to bait you into hyper posting and it'll discredit your takes on the game.

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm like only half reading your posts because my mental capacity for doing another 1v1 is not there. im not in go back and find things mode.

[Flavor Leaf]

and if we're being real about trying to get me to go back and do iso work

what's your Roden and Kitty town cases without using meta?

Kitty - has shown a progression I believe difficult to do as wolf. I will do a more deep analysis however later - however I have had paranoia on this slot multiple times and reISOed it and felt them as town every time.

I agree with that they feel townie by tone. Do you know their scum game at all? Do they have a townie tone as scum? Think you could find one of their scum games?

What progression are you referring to?

Roden - their presence and energy has been, in my view, town. The reaction to the push and the countercase was - logical and not just an OMGUS. They gave concrete reasoning for reads and have made an effort to maintain a presence despite being FOSed.

have you been feeling that energy in opposition against me, though, and could just like by personality their side over mine?

It feels like your RodenTown read could be fueled by being directly against me.

Where is their concrete reasoning for reads, and where is that presence? The only thing I've seen them do is piggyback and come in and slash at me always after someone already was.

[JacksonVirgo]

jv locktown

reread 1 post, I do not want that slot eliminated this game ever.

That's quite a statement to make. Can I ask what post you reread

Or can you at least give me a hint if it's about something hidden.

[Flavor Leaf]

that was me actively trying to work with koopa, so i might go back and answer specific things.

but will need a list of things in a non discrediting tone by Roden to do so.

[koopashell]

Spoiler:

Self-consciousness isn't a scumtell IMHO.

I don't know how koopa "reads from the hip" on pages 1-2 and expects to be accurate in any way.

UNVOTE:

I don't really like Mala but I will refrain from really voting them for nyow.

FOS: Malakittens

These 2 quotes are directly connected - They may be 100 posts apart, but the consistency in thought process is maintained for Kitty. They didn't care for the defensiveness but later saw something minor that was said they didn't like.

Self-consciousness isn't a scumtell IMHO.

I don't know how koopa "reads from the hip" on pages 1-2 and expects to be accurate in any way.

UNVOTE:

I don't really like Mala but I will refrain from really voting them for nyow.

FOS: Malakittens

Like Italiano has a lot of shade thrown at Mala, *however*, he is pushing elsewhere instead, rather than pursuing a read that in words is their strongest wolfread, when you look at the things Italiano has said.

Also this world I feel that Salad slot also fits in as the 3rd wolf - in which case I need to wait for Salad to post here to see how they act.

Now that you mentyion it, yeah I agree and I'm willing to sheep this.
VOTE: ItalianoVD

Mala and Italiano are both scummy to me right meow.

Also Mala has not once reacted to Italiano's shade against her, but has replied to mostly everyone pushing her otherwise.

This is my issue. I've given her plenty of things to respond to and I only get a joke. I think?

But you said 224 just before?

Kitty is genuinely parsing the game. The final quote - shows that Kitty is questioning Italiano for something they said before that they believe is contradictory to what they are saying in the moment.

VOTE: Koopa

For flooding the game with crappy contradicting logic.

Scorpious stonks going down.

Speaking of contradicting logic, did anyone else notice how Mala went fully into lurkspace after people stopped pushing them? Sus.

Pointed this out before - this post shows Kitty is paying attention and applying focus in multiple places -> A townie thing. Scum will generally try not to get too spread out as to not lose control.

VOTE: kitty

I read their meta and got cold feet.
I also read Kitty's meta and this feels correct.

Everyone's buzzing around and saying I'm scummy but nobody's elaborating. Why?

I play like this every game as either alignment. It's just my playstyle, sometimes I get scumread for it.

^
Genuine post

Let's wagon Kitty.

I'd probably be more willing to do so if there wasn't so much resistance to a Mala wagon every time it cropped up while she lurks out the pressure.

Yeah I don't see how I am a wagon target when Mala is scummy as all get up and lurks way harder than me.

Not a point in Kitty's favor but this was interesting about the gamestate at the time

Is it AtE about how offended they are that their town playstyle has been wrongfully called "lost"?

As scum, that's amazing cover and Im probably gonna double down when people underestimate me like that. He didnt, and it makes me think its likely genuine

He got very annoyed when I pushed him last game, called me dense and stubborn in the same way a townie would if wrongfully pushed (the push was on mechanics), etc.

Pulling out meta like this is +town.

There's almost definitely at least one scum between {Malakittens, JacksonVirgo, Scorpious}. Italiano seems less scummy after a reevaluation but it's possible. But I'm voting between those three today barring something shaking up the gamestate in an extreme manner.

Man the consistency of these reads ... wow. Also it is not static either -> there is progression to more.

This is fully natural to me. I do not play this way but I do not also see it from wolves either.

I am also aware I am wrong on at least one scumread, since there are 3 scum and I have 4 scumreads. I doubt I just clapped all 3 scum day 1 but if I had to pick just one to be wrong about, it's be ItalianoVD.

Consistent with previous thoughts.

I think I will stop here -> You get the point. This slot is town to me, and these are posts why.

[koopashell]

Asking you to back up your claims with receipts is not discrediting.

You are discrediting yourself by not obliging.

[Flavor Leaf]

Make a list of what you need with no negativity in it, and ill look into answering em later.

[koopashell]

jv locktown

reread 1 post, I do not want that slot eliminated this game ever.

That's quite a statement to make. Can I ask what post you reread

Or can you at least give me a hint if it's about something hidden.

I'll keep it a secret just for fun.

[Flavor Leaf]

Asking you to back up your claims with receipts is not discrediting.

You are discrediting yourself by not obliging.

on a scale of 1 to 10, how much do you think i care?

[JacksonVirgo]

jv locktown

reread 1 post, I do not want that slot eliminated this game ever.

That's quite a statement to make. Can I ask what post you reread

Or can you at least give me a hint if it's about something hidden.

I'll keep it a secret just for fun.

If it's just for fun I would rather you out it so I'll be locktown to everyone as well. As well as to gauge if such a post does in fact exist and you aren't making it up to excuse not getting shot.

[koopashell]

Make a list of what you need with no negativity in it, and ill look into answering em later.

Sure.
@Roden, let's get a list going for Flavor Leaf and bug them until they deliver.