Micro 1052: Lake Melancholy [END]

[fireisredsir]

i mean my poe is literally just prism ceph vpb

I think Dwlee belongs in this~

agreed this is probably right

[VP Baltar]

Dark horse scum team is dwlee/ceph

[Prism]

1569 is a good post imo

[Prism]

I know that's a "dark horse" but your top scumread are literally neither of those players

[Prism]

top scumreads*, as in two

[Aristeia]

that's why they are dark horses

[Datisi]

what is internally inconsistent
the fact that he did not say you're paetners with prism

i mean, kind of. idk why that would not at least be in his brain and why he would just ignore that i gave a noncommittal answer when he asked if i had given a stance on prism -- like why ask if you don't even care about the answer?

i don't really want to die on this hill bc like i said not a major point

but he's just positioning wherever is convenient for him at the time (like look at how he calls for the wagons to be him and prism and then in 1501 tries to frame it as a 1v1 when it isn't even really about the two of them against each other, it's more about prism voters vs VP voters) and i don't think it matches up with any sort of town thought process

VOTE: fire

i am sorry i am like i feel like i am reading scumtisi fumbling his way through trying to present logically correct reasons why someone is scum

like oh someone thinks these two people are scummy but did not analyzse their interactions in between them so scum
someone called a 1v1 what isn't technically a 1v1 so *radio static* NO TOWN THOUGHT PROCESS

i know there's like no backing for this and people will yell at me but for the time being at least i will vote

and the pedit tells me prism is about to yell at me

[Datisi]

I'm not a big fan deciding D1 lims as hard consensus that way because they rarely seem to be correct.

have you ever had a single game where you actually used this line of reasonign

[fireisredsir]

why are you zeroing in on this like its the sole thing supporting my vp suspicion

i voted him long before this

[Prism]

I love how I sat here thinking Datisi will vote me and me/Aristeia will both be happy

And somehow he found a way to troll the everliving shit out of both of us simultaneously instead

[Prism]

He even managed to give me false hope for a second

[Datisi]

why are you zeroing in on this like its the sole thing supporting my vp suspicion

i voted him long before this

i do not choose what my subconscious wants to focus on

[Aristeia]

like oh someone thinks these two people are scummy but did not analyzse their interactions in between them so scum
someone called a 1v1 what isn't technically a 1v1 so *radio static* NO TOWN THOUGHT PROCESS

i know there's like no backing for this and people will yell at me but for the time being at least i will vote

and the pedit tells me prism is about to yell at me

I think his point is that it's not so much a 1v1 in that VPB is pushing Prism and Prism is pushing VPB as it is that there is a group of people pushing Prism!scum (Mainly Me/Dwlee) and a group of people pushing VPB!scum (Mainly FireisRedSir)

By setting it up as a dichotomy - he is trying to create an either/or situation - either Prism is scum or VPB is scum because they think each other are scum.

However this is not really how the day evolved - what actually happened is that people wanted to kill VPB/Prism for being scummy independently of each other.

The reason setting up a 1v1 is scum!indicative when it's actually 2 independent wagons - is that it is trying to downplay the possibility of a Prism - Baltar scum team and actually trying to create a dichotomy where if one of them goes through - the other has room to maneuever later on.

[Prism]

Alright Aristeia time to smack straight into the same error you made last time, whip out that Baltar vote baby

[fireisredsir]

thank you ari that is a good explanation

[Aristeia]

if you look at how VPB/Prism voted each other - it was as far as i remember on the same page and it looked very strange because niether of them really were into voting the other before it happened - it didn't look like something organic.

VPB literally only voted for Prism

after

VPB got pressure and Prism got vote #1 from Dwlee - it wasn't like VPB decided to pursue Prism on his own.

[Prism]

I am down to flip either or both of my partners

[skitter30]

Then i'm on the right track

Should we just wagon vbp or ceph then?

this tiger is trying to kill me

I dont want your biggest scumread
I'm offerinf the only other 2 names in ur pool ....

Dats why dont u like these options

[Datisi]

like oh someone thinks these two people are scummy but did not analyzse their interactions in between them so scum
someone called a 1v1 what isn't technically a 1v1 so *radio static* NO TOWN THOUGHT PROCESS

i know there's like no backing for this and people will yell at me but for the time being at least i will vote

and the pedit tells me prism is about to yell at me

I think his point is that it's not so much a 1v1 in that VPB is pushing Prism and Prism is pushing VPB as it is that there is a group of people pushing Prism!scum (Mainly Me/Dwlee) and a group of people pushing VPB!scum (Mainly FireisRedSir)

By setting it up as a dichotomy - he is trying to create an either/or situation - either Prism is scum or VPB is scum because they think each other are scum.

However this is not really how the day evolved - what actually happened is that people wanted to kill VPB/Prism for being scummy independently of each other.

The reason setting up a 1v1 is scum!indicative when it's actually 2 independent wagons - is that it is trying to downplay the possibility of a Prism - Baltar scum team and actually trying to create a dichotomy where if one of them goes through - the other has room to maneuever later on.

the one sole scenario that that makes sense as being scum-indicative is if baltar abd prism are partners and baltar is trying to spew his buddy town after he flips (or trying to get himself spewed town)

and even that doesn't make complete total sense because then he'd be egging on scum scum wagons inseatd of trying to see if any other wagons happen to happen because towns are generally fucking stupid

and if he's scum with not prism then i genuinely see no scum!motivation in trying to lock a 1v1 in

so like

isk vp coul technically be scum but these arguments aint it fam

[skitter30]

VOTE: fire

Bad vote

[Aristeia]

the one sole scenario that that makes sense as being scum-indicative is if baltar abd prism are partners and baltar is trying to spew his buddy town after he flips (or trying to get himself spewed town)

and even that doesn't make complete total sense because then he'd be egging on scum scum wagons inseatd of trying to see if any other wagons happen to happen because towns are generally fucking stupid

and if he's scum with not prism then i genuinely see no scum!motivation in trying to lock a 1v1 in

so like

isk vp coul technically be scum but these arguments aint it fam

ok if fireisred is mafia

why is fireisred trying to persuade me from voting Prism!town instead of just sheeping me on the Prism vote?

[Prism]

1593 is not a good timeline if you work back through it

Am on my phone so can't really track through it but I'd look at the pages before Baltar voted me

[Datisi]

i hate that i entered thinking how baltar might be sum and then i started wiring these defenses

[Prism]

Concurring on 1595. If you think it's me/fire I assure you I would be blasting him for fencesitting so hard in the scum PT, and he's coachable enough to listen

[fireisredsir]

actually addendum i agree with ari's post until she reaches the conclusion. i think its scummy for vp even if prism isn't a partner, bc in the specific appeal to her in 1501 it looks like he is clumsily trying to imply that it is TvT which just doesn't really make any sense given his read progression up to that point