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[Malakittens]

J did ask you both to step away

But you didn’t

So here we go

[koopashell]

My apologies - I feel like I struck gold here and I want everyone to see.

I'll take my leave for an hour.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

VC 1.27

With 13 players, it takes 7 to make a decision. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-04-25 00:30:00).

VC

Not Known 15 [3]:

MalcolmTucker [1537], JacksonVirgo [1607], Malakittens [1806]

KittyTacky [3]:

ItalianoVD [1867], FlavorLeaf [1868], Scorpious [1982]

humaneatingmonkey [2]:

Not Known 15 [1337], MathBlade [1936]

Malakittens [1]:

humaneatingmonkey [792]

Scorpious [1]:

KittyTacky [1791]

FlavorLeaf [1]:

koopashell [2100]

Not voting [2]:

Andresvmb, Roden [2123]

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Gamma Emerald replaces Flavor Leaf

Everyone please welcome him!

[Gamma Emerald]

hello friends
gonna start catching up shortly

[Malakittens]

Hi gamma

It’s gonna be a nightmare

[Gamma Emerald]

I usually get scumread for this but eh who cares.

1. How long have you played the game of mafia, not just on this site, but ever?
2. Do you like playing the role of town or mafia better?
3. Are you an active poster or a lurker?
4. Do you find it hard to lie or it something you have no issues with?

oh fun!
1: been playing forum mafia for almost 6 years (excluding breaks), but played mafia in person back thru to 9 years ago (2013)
2: either is fine, as long as I can enjoy myself
3: tend to be on the more active side
4: I would call myself an okay liar, the biggest issue is that when a bit of the facade slips, it's near impossible to get it to go back

[koopashell]

Hello gamma, welcome to the game.

Your slot is essentially caught.

I'm sorry about that, at this point the best thing you can do if your slot was town is to show some concrete pushes somewhere. I won't take anything soft or safe from you, personally.

I would like you to first read Roden's ISO and make a read there.

[Gamma Emerald]

I ain't dead yet!
I'll try to form a Roden read naturally while catching up, but don't expect it to be *good*

and @Mala it's good to see you too

[koopashell]

The reason why I am asking you to read Roden first - is because I believe the person who was in your slot previously was attempting to miseliminate Roden and I want you to establish a baseline on that slot right away before you branch out.

[Malakittens]

KOOPA

DIDNT WE HUST TALK ABOUT THIS

[Gamma Emerald]

The reason why I am asking you to read Roden first - is because I believe the person who was in your slot previously was attempting to miseliminate Roden and I want you to establish a baseline on that slot right away before you branch out.

I did a check of his first couple posts, I do expect to have some sort of read on him fairly quickly, but I still wanna do my standard front-to-back catch up.

[koopashell]

KOOPA

DIDNT WE HUST TALK ABOUT THIS

The circumstances changed and I needed to say something lmao.

Also I feel I can read gamma as well - so if my reads match up with how I was reading FL I should be confident I'm on the right track.

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE:
standard protocol, a bit delayed

[Gamma Emerald]

was I the only person to respond to italiano's RQS besides koopa and scorp?

[Malakittens]

No

But I don’t answer that bc it’s fluff

[koopashell]

VOTE: HumanEatingMonkey

[Gamma Emerald]

. Very lurky.

Spoiler:

I usually get scumread for this but eh who cares.

1. How long have you played the game of mafia, not just on this site, but ever?
2. Do you like playing the role of town or mafia better?
3. Are you an active poster or a lurker?
4. Do you find it hard to lie or it something you have no issues with?

1. I’m too old for this shit.
2. I like playing the game
3. I guess you’ll find out
4. These are such great questions…

why the hostility?

okay, i'm slipping into old habits.

I would like to announce that I'll be imposing post limits for me. I wanna train a lurky/wall-ey posting style. Wish me luck.

This is townie but idk why you're imposing anything on yourself

why is it townie?

Mala villagery tho, why do you want to vote only villagers mr monkey?

I heard scum being called "wolves" but first tyime I see someone consyistently calling tyownies "villagers".

what's with the extra Y's?

I usually get scumread for this but eh who cares.

1. How long have you played the game of mafia, not just on this site, but ever?
2. Do you like playing the role of town or mafia better?
3. Are you an active poster or a lurker?
4. Do you find it hard to lie or it something you have no issues with?

Uhh no, I have a boyfriend... how gross you should feel disgusted with yourself.

I usually get scumread for this but eh who cares.

1. How long have you played the game of mafia, not just on this site, but ever?
2. Do you like playing the role of town or mafia better?
3. Are you an active poster or a lurker?
4. Do you find it hard to lie or it something you have no issues with?

I'll do it proper.

1. I've played Mafia 2017 with Town of Salem, then moved to Forum Mafia on the ToS forums, which moved me to Discord Mafia (of which I am now an admin) and MafiaScum.
2. I prefer playing mafia, I am better at it by a large margin.
3. Read my sig aha. I am a bit of both, I post actively if I believe to have a substantial case on somebody but otherwise I lurk to avoid being pocketed into wrong reads.
4. Lying is easy. Used to fake-claim as town as a way to manipulate the scum into screwing themselves over. Don't do that anymore, got out of hand.

bad vibes from this

Anyway for now my hot take fresh off the press…

Scum team: koopa, Roden, Scorpious.

Honestly if I wasn’t leaning toward Flavor Leaf being town I’d think he and koopa were partners.

I think Mala is the LHF for today.

Well off to bed y’all everyone have a great night!

this team guess feels 1/3 rn

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Malakittens
This one is pretty obvious.

VOTE: NK15
This one is pretty obvious.

Confident in this vote.

why?

Again not really seeing where I did a TMI on JV.

My thought process was as follows:

Get my role PM - see it’s green. Get excited because I’m not scum finally.
See the player list and realize that JV is in it.
Get excited because I’m finally playing as town instead of scum with JV there unlike the last two games we were in.

Gets scum read for said excitement.

#reck

[Unv][/unv]
I think NK15 has also been villagery on this page.
VOTE: Scorpious

Are we still random voting?

bad post

koopa prob town

I gotta agree

although there's posts I don't like, but overall it's got a tone feel

so gut says town

The most scummiest votes on my wagon is NK15 & koopa.

This has me confused, I'm curious as to your thought process between these. What changed your mind on koopa being prob town to one of the scummiest votes on your wagon in the subsequent 9 posts?

I already see the missing puzzle piece, I'll see who else caught on first though

I didn’t like the trajectory.

Letting me breathe & then asking me to post a list on page 4 which I’m not comfortable with and then oppurnity jumping onto my wagon using pressure vote

Which is cool, but obv makes the commenting letting me breathe go to trash

Again just hated the trajectory on premises

not what I expected
I was thinking the logic would be it was just koopa's vote was scummy but not enough to make a scumread

I think Facebones is a villager in all worlds I'm currently considering.
I'd like to poll peoples current thoughts on Scorpious if possible

Scorpious:Worker..

Fixed it..

this is kinda funny

Only explanation I can think of is Mala doesn't think Koopa's play in general is scummy but that the vote itself is.

But yeah major discrepancy, good spot.

Why are you answering for mala instead of waiting for the reply?

I'm putting out a possible explanation as to why they could say that, they are of course welcome to clarify whether that is correct.

That's generally anti-town because it could give scum an excuse they didn't think of...

This. I asked addressed that question to Mala for a reason. I wanted them to answer, I don't really care about what you think are possible reasons.

I saw koopa say he felt facebones was town, I'm feeling similarly based on this

Again, appreciate the responses to the questions. I like getting to know the people I play with with whom I’m not familiar. If I was giving out prizes, it’d be a tie for 1st place between Flavor Leaf and JV for best response.

this is town

VOTE: Malakittens
This one is pretty obvious.

I missed this one. What’s obvious?

Read my iso.

why was this your response?

I’m ready to 1v1 someone who was on a Mala wagon.

Been feeling some scum energy getting pushed into that direction.

Where shall i pounce

Why don't you just do it instead of posturing about it? I've been waiting for you to actually do something like this for a bit now.

do you know flavor from elsewhere?

[MathBlade]

Just clocked out. I see a ton of pages. Super long shift again today and Dr. appt to boot so just like *sigh*

Hi Gamma.

This is still day one and we’re approaching levels for a D1 normal and I am no where near top poster to give you idea of speed and I am struggling to keep up and haven’t caught up.

Can you please look and focus on the wagons to see if you can find one you can consolidate on? Or focus most of your posts on those slots. I townread your predecessor and so I want to try to build a block or something.

I think this day needs to end pretty soon. And no I am not reading back further than this page today I don’t have spoons.

[Gamma Emerald]

I have a couple suspects already so I could drop a vote if called for, though normally I like holding out until being at least close to caught up

[MathBlade]

I have a couple suspects already so I could drop a vote if called for, though normally I like holding out until being at least close to caught up

You’re fine to do whatever imho. It’s more a suggestion that might be helpful because I doubt everyone can read everything at this point and was more seeing how your thoughts read.

[koopashell]

Roden

and Italian are the two that

I've sniffed some scum energy on

thus far. Too early to tell if that's accurate or not, because at least with Italian I've seen a few townie energy auras coming off of em.

it was more i felt it at the time, then stopped feeling it. the more you talk, the more i actually start to scum read Roden again, though.

Mainly because the more you talk the more I'm getting a feeling you might be town who's just looking at the game in black and white.

I get my reads through direct interaction.

Otherwise it's mainly gamestate reads from the perspective I have at the time I give the read.

Roden was all gamestate reads at the time since I hadn't interacted with them.

Scum manipulate gamestate, so by looking at my past gamestate reads in the future, I can look to see where scum were manipulating things as the days go on.

these 2 posts

Going to once again requote this for a fresh page. The case I have for wolf FL based on their treatment of Roden.

Forgot their reasoning for their wolfread, as well as consistently refused to elaborate on said wolfread in any way that is specific.

FL also fled the thread once I pointed this out after posting an angry post since that was the most intelligent thing they could reply with with such a glaring contradiction - as there really is no easy explaining this.

@Mathblade please take a look at this - and please have an open mind that you may have been pocketed.

[MathBlade]

I don’t get it?

Flavor Leaf says that they sniffed some scum energy
Then says gamestate which can be the cause of the scum energy?

So you posted that and they replaced out.

Do I have to guess that you were tunneling them before that point?

Is the pages I missed just you spamming how right you were on FL?
After spamming how right you were on Mala?
After spamming how right you were on someone else at which point blurs together?

I feel like it’s boy who cried wolf dude.

Please work with people.

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler: scorpius

I’m ready to 1v1 someone who was on a Mala wagon.

Been feeling some scum energy getting pushed into that direction.

Where shall i pounce

Why don't you just do it instead of posturing about it? I've been waiting for you to actually do something like this for a bit now.

I’d rather see how people react to me saying it than do it

I think it’s fair, I would be more inclined at this early stage to think the voters were more sus than the votee..

based on?

Experience.. of course I have no hard data, but how many times is the first wagon flipping scum? It’s a crapshoot. So I go off of what I know.

Now granted it’s 2 votes, but steam will pick up on it and you’ll find at least on scum to push on D2.

I am also still learning this blurry line that used to be RVS in these games… like is it still a thing, is it not? Is it now optional? Like I’m really confused..

this feels like bad logic
I know from

my

experience that scum that end up as the first wagon tend to be let off easy because of this mindset, and as such are more blasé about early wagons on themselves

Koopa/Italiano/Malakittens way too early town block for me atm.

These TRs align with some of the ones I’ve formed myself, though I have different suspects to FL rn at this point in the thread