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[koopashell]

I don’t get it?

Flavor Leaf says that they sniffed some scum energy
Then says gamestate which can be the cause of the scum energy?

So you posted that and they replaced out.

Do I have to guess that you were tunneling them before that point?

Is the pages I missed just you spamming how right you were on FL?
After spamming how right you were on Mala?
After spamming how right you were on someone else at which point blurs together?

I feel like it’s boy who cried wolf dude.

Please work with people.

That's not what Flavor Leaf said - read the whole post, not just the highlighted.
Ask yourself why he was completely and utterly unable to answer a simple question about Roden to show his read was genuine.
He was caught and he couldn't handle it - a townie finds an answer to that question fairly easily.

[KittyTacky]

Something about Mala's reaction seems genuine. I'll sleep on it. Good night.

UNVOTE: for now. Scorpious and JV still kinda scummy.

I feel like the sudden switch to town!mala is forced

Nah, Mala is null at most, I don't townread her. Still think she might be scum, and more likely than FL or NK. But that reaction is townie even if it could be faked.

[MathBlade]

I am sorry I reread it and don’t understand it and my response is the same.

When I pushed FL last game FL at least understood why.

Here this really feels like conf bias. I also noticed you didn’t answer or reflect on my questions.

I have no desire to get into a back and forth either. We need to consolidate.

Starting another wagon at this point just seems really toxic.

[KittyTacky]

I’ll vote Koopa over Mala all day…

Stuff like this is why I'm continuing to sus both you and Mala.

[KittyTacky]

One last thing, Andres doesn't lurk as either alignment, he is either busy or forgot about this game, probably.

VOTE: Scorpious

Night for real.

Absolutely false about Andres… he disappears a lot, I’m not saying he’s lurking but days with no Andres are common..

Not really my experience with him though I played just 2 or 3 games so far. Maybe I forgot.

[KittyTacky]

*2 or 3 games with Andres, not in total lmao

[KittyTacky]

Scorpious why are you much more pleasant in this game than the other one where you were town? Like I am charmed by you, and it's different.

Because he's not town this time around.

[KittyTacky]

I'm sorry I blew up.

I think I'm just frustrated in general at this thread & I was hungry and then the combo just set me off.

I apologize to whom whoever I insulted

It's fine, it's a stressful game.

[KittyTacky]

VOTE: Kitty

Yeah, I'm fine with Kitty.

Hell did I do wrong? Pushed someone who just lurked until recently? What have I done that is scummy? Not feeling this flash wagon.

[Gamma Emerald]

no further questions

HEM is town. That is all

VOTE: Malakittens
This one is pretty obvious.

VOTE: NK15
This one is pretty obvious.

But I also get how that frustration could be genuine, so a slot to keep an eye on for now.

Frustration can come from scum, too. In this case it is not town-indicative.

The most scummiest votes on my wagon is NK15 & koopa. Koopa because I didn't like the trajectory, NK15 because that post was scummy af.
Roden is prob town as stated before. HEM is up in the air.

Koopa looks decent, don't agree with you for them but NK15 I can agree with. HEM is very likely Town, but not something I am willing to delve into as if I get everyone to TR them they gonna die. Roden I am indifferent about

Confident in this vote.

I am confident in my villaread on NK15, and thus this string of posts - particularly in a wolf!HEM world - are wolfy.

Why does nk15!town equal JV!scum? Do you not see any world in which they’re scum together?

VOTE: Italiano

I guess it doesn't ever hurt to crank up the heat. Scorpious was more a "do something" vote anyways.

Explain.

blegh

[KittyTacky]

VOTE: nk15

NK is a compromise. Honestly unsure about them at this point in the game, they're neutral. But if the alternative is no lim or me, then sure.

[KittyTacky]

Scorpious is scum for pushing a claimed incestigative PR.

[KittyTacky]

*investigative
*investigative
*investigative
*investigative
omg

[KittyTacky]

There is no reasonable explanation why FL moved up hem in his reads - HEM has added nothing different. However roden is stuck on the bottom somehow.

ugh, if you werent so egocentric i wouldnt care that you're so newbie with statements like this.

FL, how much do you think has the gamestate been manipulated by scum today?

Scum have manipulated the game in the sense they're likely trying to make sure Koopa/Myself keep going at each other and end up pushing town.

So I dont think they're in the forefront.

Kitty I think is the scum that is on the outlier of doing this. She was laying light town reads on me, but always pushing areas that arent going to effect gamestate.

This makes me believe Kitty is scum trying to just let the other scums manipulate while she stays in the background. The fact she chose to lean town me means there is a scum who was pushing me, scum reading me.

I have stated I do not think that was you.

I have gone in major depth for my HEM read and why I think they are more likely to be coming from town.

Leaves Roden and Koopa.

Koopa I think is emotional town, HOWEVER, there is chance they are just solid scum here, and they turned once I started pushing Roden more, and they switched their vote onto HEM in a way to possibly get me to move from Roden to HEM.


Notice how Koopa also is pushing NK15 and HEM, the EXACT 2 PEOPLE I WAS PUSHING EARLIER AND THEY WERE DEFENDING AGAINST.

This entire game Koopa has been flipping and defending anyone I push aimlessly, even after the flips.


Yet who did they not push ever, Roden.


And why?

Does anyone else in this game truly think that Roden is so unbelievably townie and couldnt be coming from a scum perspective here?


So Roden/Kitty/maybe Koopa possibility.


If Koopa is as good as he says he is, why are people giving him the obv town treatment here.

HEM started casing Koopa, and then Koopa began pushing HEM.



I think there is validity in Koopa Scum, but for obvious reasons, someone else is gonna have to push it, not me.

1. I am not a "she". I am male.
2. Not going to effect gamestate? Not going to effect gamestate? I led the second Mala push and the JV push, how tf wouldn't that effect gamestate...

[KittyTacky]

If none of my scumreads are happening today I'm fine with 2 of my nulls: NK15 and HEM.

[koopashell]

Kitty - FL is no longer in the game, they replaced out. Can you look at my recent posts and look at what i found for me? regarding the roden read discrepancy?

[KittyTacky]

Kitty - has shown a progression I believe difficult to do as wolf. I will do a more deep analysis however later - however I have had paranoia on this slot multiple times and reISOed it and felt them as town every time.

I agree with that they feel townie by tone. Do you know their scum game at all? Do they have a townie tone as scum? Think you could find one of their scum games?

What progression are you referring to?

For the scumgame where I didn't accidentally self-destruct day 1, see Sibyl's Elegy. Good game, pulled off a pretty bullshit claim and they believed me.

Kitty - FL is no longer in the game, they replaced out. Can you look at my recent posts and look at what i found for me? regarding the roden read discrepancy?

Sure once I catch up to there.

[KittyTacky]

Roden read was maintained through my various flips on your alignment.
I'd still bin Roden for d1. Better to save a player from a mislim as the other side of it, where we can have a wolf player who has to spew another day.
Consider this: you are going to be alive tomorrow to push wolf roden. I am defensing him. You will have a higher likliehood of pushing roden through day 2 if you can't find them town still.

This? Yeah I have the same read. I just don't feel Roden is particularly scummy and I'd basically only consider them day 2+.

[KittyTacky]

Also nobody commented on my neural network snowman avatar instead of my usual kpop. Sad

I thought it was a hat.

[Gamma Emerald]

Like Italiano has a lot of shade thrown at Mala, *however*, he is pushing elsewhere instead, rather than pursuing a read that in words is their strongest wolfread, when you look at the things Italiano has said.

Also this world I feel that Salad slot also fits in as the 3rd wolf - in which case I need to wait for Salad to post here to see how they act.

Now that you mentyion it, yeah I agree and I'm willing to sheep this.
VOTE: ItalianoVD

Mala and Italiano are both scummy to me right meow.

neither of these are very good takes imo

[Gamma Emerald]

With Italians, it’s mostly been a lot of their stuff looks like it’s been said just to be said rather than them thinking it, almost like a “make the townie convince me they’re town” kinda strategy.

I guess I don’t see Italiano’s reasoning as complex. Looks pretty weak reasoning for the most part.

Almost looks like they wanted you to feel that ease off of them so you’ll town read them.

Flavor Leaf how do you play as town

Smart question

I’m ready to 1v1 someone who was on a Mala wagon.

Been feeling some scum energy getting pushed into that direction.

Where shall i pounce

Why don't you just do it instead of posturing about it? I've been waiting for you to actually do something like this for a bit now.

Another thing up against this, while I've been pushing the appearance of not doing anything/lurky, if you check my ISO, even though the tone is probably there, I feel like you can see multiple posts of vaguely where my head is at.

I tend to find it better for me not to immediately come in the beginning of the game because I'm someone who can essentially take over by talking a lot, so early games I try to stay in the background until it's time for me to pounce.

You can poke at the kitty, but I got hops and claws.

I also dont mind pulling attention onto me if I need to. I like interacting with people directly.

This does interest me a little - Flavor initially says they don't want to take over the game by talking too much, but since then I'd argue they pretty much have taken over the game. That's not a bad thing if they're in the right because they've helped move things forward and put interesting ideas out there, but it does feel like a very deliberate and quick switch-up in approach. Is it town just latching onto ideas they've developed or mafia perhaps sensing a chance to take control?

This is a salient point from a player that has not left much of a strong impression so far. An average player might find that a town thing, but I don’t. I have found that players who ring this bell for me turn out scum rather often. So Malcolm is on my radar for this.

[Gamma Emerald]

Facebonez has towntold more than Scorpious, who has spent the majority of his posts complaining.

This is just nonsense..

I fail to see how what koopa said is incorrect

[KittyTacky]

hello friends
gonna start catching up shortly

Hi Gamma, welcome to the most drawn-out D1 I have ever seen in a mini.

[Gamma Emerald]

I believe that Human is attempting a White Knight pocket attempt on Italiano to lower my presence in the game as scum.

It isn't a chainsaw.

What's a chainsaw? I saw that mentioned twice now

I believe that Human is attempting a White Knight pocket attempt on Italiano to lower my presence in the game as scum.

It isn't a chainsaw.

What's a chainsaw? I saw that mentioned twice now

Player A (Town) pushes Player B (Scum).

Player C (Scum) pushes Player A. <--- that's the chainsaw. They defend their partner by attacking the one thats pushing their partner.

Thanks for explaining this .

You guys seriously don’t know what chainsaw is?

Why would us not knowing what a term means even worth bringing up?

Things are called different things on different sites.

RVS where I learned mafia is referred to as “joke phase”..

RED ALERT
VOTE: Scorpious
The “joke phase” thing feels inordinately hinky to me. I think I’ve only ever heard it referenced once ever on this site and it was by scum. That on top of all the rest of my grievances with Scorpious make me feel good voting here despite only being about 1/5 caught up

[KittyTacky]

The extra Ys in my early posts were nya-speak and I dropped it because nobody ever commented on it.

Glad that there's literally anyone else pushing Scorp.