Micro 1052: Lake Melancholy [END]

[VP Baltar]

Ari, why do you think suichi chose now to out the hood?

[Prism]

Doing the champs stuff then going to bed

If we're chainflipping me and Baltar chainflip us and probably one scum but if both town We Live In A Society

Maybe I'll read in the morning

[Aristeia]

Ari, why do you think suichi chose now to out the hood?

because he thinks you're mafia and you were probably going to get flipped even if he didn't reveal because a lot of people scumread you and knowing that this is a carbon copy of the last setup seems like something important to know.

[Aristeia]

and a lot of the reasoning for why he wants to flip you have to do with inconsistencies in your play between hood and thread and his case lays out why you are probably trying to pocket Datisi in the hood.

[skitter30]

How are you reading me even if you're lumping me in the same category as fire ..

And fine, lets play this game: what am i not being 'thoughtful' about and who i am getting pocketed by

I think if prism is scum here, she is playing you.

>.>

do you think the 3p hood must have a scum or not?

Must? Idk, that's some outguessing the mod shit. Possible or likely? Definitely. Suichi and I have both made it known we think it could be the other person. Like I said, I think suichi didn't like that datisi and I were vibing and tried to make a preemptive play possibly.

Why is dats the consensus town in the hood?

[VP Baltar]

you were probably going to get flipped even if he didn't reveal because a lot of people scumread you and knowing that this is a carbon copy of the last setup seems like something important to know.

This doesn't make any sense. So I'm going to get flipped anyway, and he thinks I'm scum, so wouldn't that just make the hood more powerful if town!suichi then has a masonry essentially? Unless he thought I was scum with datisi, which he apparently does not.

And knowing about the setup right now changes what? This was something we already talked about in the hood, so Datisi was aware. Clearly he is not using this information to alter the direction of the thread.

None of this explains why out the hood now.

[VP Baltar]

and a lot of the reasoning for why he wants to flip you have to do with inconsistencies in your play between hood and thread and his case lays out why you are probably trying to pocket Datisi in the hood.

I will respond to his case in detail tomorrow. If a lot of his case relies on me being more transparent in the hood than I am in thread, that's not really a good case.

As far as pocketing, you of all people should know town!datisi inherently doesn't trust me. That's a play that is unlikely to ever succeed because if I pushed datisi to town read me, he'd do the exact opposite. I don't think I could legitimately pocket datisi.

[Aristeia]

This doesn't make any sense. So I'm going to get flipped anyway, and he thinks I'm scum, so wouldn't that just make the hood more powerful if town!suichi then has a masonry essentially? Unless he thought I was scum with datisi, which he apparently does not.

if he thinks you're mafia then mafia already know about the hood

[Aristeia]

As far as pocketing, you of all people should know town!datisi inherently doesn't trust me. That's a play that is unlikely to ever succeed because if I pushed datisi to town read me, he'd do the exact opposite. I don't think I could legitimately pocket datisi.

I literally just spent 2 hours re-reading guardians

where you got datisi to trust you.

[VP Baltar]

Why is dats the consensus town in the hood?

For me, it's because Datisi and I have been having some good back and forths about the game recently and we are being pretty clearly transparent with each other. Datisi is also exhibiting his usual paranoia in the hood PT in a pretty real way.

I don't know suichi's reasons for the town read of datisi. I feel like he hasn't really expressed much if any suspicion about him in the PT all game.

[VP Baltar]

As far as pocketing, you of all people should know town!datisi inherently doesn't trust me. That's a play that is unlikely to ever succeed because if I pushed datisi to town read me, he'd do the exact opposite. I don't think I could legitimately pocket datisi.

I literally just spent 2 hours re-reading guardians

where you got datisi to trust you.

uh was your takeaway that datisi was being pocketed by me or would have been that game? imaginality was obv scum that game and it took me like four RL days of talking to datisi to get him to a vote he was not even that sure about.

[VP Baltar]

convincing datisi in that game to not lim me and lose the game was like the absolute most effort I have put into trying to win a game since I came back to this site.

[VP Baltar]

This doesn't make any sense. So I'm going to get flipped anyway, and he thinks I'm scum, so wouldn't that just make the hood more powerful if town!suichi then has a masonry essentially? Unless he thought I was scum with datisi, which he apparently does not.

if he thinks you're mafia then mafia already know about the hood

him hinting he is going to vote me is not a new development in the thread. still doesn't explain why now.

[Aristeia]

convincing datisi in that game to not lim me and lose the game was like the absolute most effort I have put into trying to win a game since I came back to this site.

so you can absolutely pocket him in a PT if you went max effort why r you pretending you can't

[Aristeia]

This doesn't make any sense. So I'm going to get flipped anyway, and he thinks I'm scum, so wouldn't that just make the hood more powerful if town!suichi then has a masonry essentially? Unless he thought I was scum with datisi, which he apparently does not.

if he thinks you're mafia then mafia already know about the hood

him hinting he is going to vote me is not a new development in the thread. still doesn't explain why now.

if he's mafia why would he vote you when they don't need his vote to vote you off.

you can say it's because he's mafia with prism and wants to save prism except

1] Prism is unlikely to want him to help

2] revealing a 3 hood probably doesn't help Prism's chances

[Aristeia]

I don't even see why you're trying to convince me.

I think you're mafia but I'm not going to vote for you before Prism

if you think Prism is mafia I'm not exactly going to change my vote here.

[VP Baltar]

convincing datisi in that game to not lim me and lose the game was like the absolute most effort I have put into trying to win a game since I came back to this site.

so you can absolutely pocket him in a PT if you went max effort why r you pretending you can't

It is a wild ass take for you to walk away from that game, which you watched in real time, and think that was easy or even possible for me to do as scum.

[Aristeia]

convincing datisi in that game to not lim me and lose the game was like the absolute most effort I have put into trying to win a game since I came back to this site.

so you can absolutely pocket him in a PT if you went max effort why r you pretending you can't

It is a wild ass take for you to walk away from that game, which you watched in real time, and think that was easy or even possible for me to do as scum.

I didn't say it was easy - I said it's possible

[VP Baltar]

I don't even see why you're trying to convince me.

because I always hold out hope for the day you actually learn how to read me and stop playing oscar the grouch dumpster mafia.

[Aristeia]

I am literally voting for Prism you don't need to convince me of anything

[VP Baltar]

convincing datisi in that game to not lim me and lose the game was like the absolute most effort I have put into trying to win a game since I came back to this site.

so you can absolutely pocket him in a PT if you went max effort why r you pretending you can't

It is a wild ass take for you to walk away from that game, which you watched in real time, and think that was easy or even possible for me to do as scum.

I didn't say it was easy - I said it's possible

I actually don't think I could do that as scum.

[Aristeia]

sure but you would at least try.

you wouldn't walk into the hood with your hands up and be like "oh you got me"

I'm sure Datisi will tell us all about what he thinks is going on in the hood when he wakes up.

[VP Baltar]

you wouldn't walk into the hood with your hands up and be like "oh you got me"

yeah, for sure. I'm just saying I don't think pocket is the play I'd go for. I'd probably just want to play it as believable as possible for a day and NK him. Pocket is too risky and something I don't think I'd have the confidence with datisi to pull off. He's studied my game too much.

[Aristeia]

you would nightkill in a hood of 3 and narrow poe for yourself

really.

[Aristeia]

what's your opinion of dats btw?

is he as locktown as ceph says?