Micro 1052: Lake Melancholy [END]

[Enchant]

We always can prompt random dice roll.

2/7 chance to kill scum from other town perspective!

[VP Baltar]

but i do think your solving under pressure is p weak and you would be doing more to work on the game itself rather than devoting all your time to playing the social game

I like how all your scum reads on me are based on what you think I SHOULD be doing here.

hm yes i do tend to scumread people for doing things that i think they are more likely to do as scum than town

last game (when you were town) you criticized me for scumreading you based on tone and vibes when I should be looking for scummy actions lol

Yes, and you're getting closer if you're town here! The problem is you're hunting hypothetical things, rather than things that have happened. You're psychologizing what you think town!vp would do, rather than looking at what I have done in the game.

It's not the right approach, imo, and leads to talking past each other. But you also could be scum and fighting a hypothetical VP is a convenient push. This is why I find the "prism-fire team callout" argument so suspicious. And then of course Suichi parrots you on it in the hood after you posted it, which I absolutely hate.

[VP Baltar]

Ok, I am going to do my morning work, and then address Datisi's request, and then if I am still willful on this cursed site, I will read suichi's interpretation of the hood, which I'm sure will throw me into a rage

[fireisredsir]

I am fairly convinced one of you is scum pocketing the other and I have been trying to figure out which way this is going all game.

I think this is a weak spot in my game because I usually have a good spidey sense for areas where this is generally happening in games, but I always have a hard time pinpointing who is pocketing who. The fact that you both act oblivious to this probably doesn't help.

i haven't been oblivious, ive commented on the possibility multiple times. i don't THINK it's happening but im very aware of the possibility

plus if he is scum pocketing me id rather stay nice and cozy and have him think that its working

[fireisredsir]

Yes, and you're getting closer if you're town here! The problem is you're hunting hypothetical things, rather than things that have happened. You're psychologizing what you think town!vp would do, rather than looking at what I have done in the game.

ill give this a ponder

but i think im looking at your actions in the game and seeing what i think has more likely to be town motivation and what has more likely to be scum motivation. to do that i obv need to hypothesize about what your town and scum motivations would be in that situation. i think thats valid and different than what you're characterizing it as

[fireisredsir]

It's not the right approach, imo, and leads to talking past each other. But you also could be scum and fighting a hypothetical VP is a convenient push. This is why I find the "prism-fire team callout" argument so suspicious. And then of course Suichi parrots you on it in the hood after you posted it, which I absolutely hate.

it did give me pause to see that datisi and prism both said it was a bad point and shuichi said it was a good one

i still think it's not, like, a super bad point, just not a very significant one, so at first when he agreed i was like haha yes

but then i was like hmm this could be meaningful

[fireisredsir]

A town!baltar lim is probably losing

ok ive been thinking on it and i don't think this perspective makes that much sense from someone who thinks prism is scum?

like yeah if vp and prism are both town then we're def in trouble. but if someone thinks exactly one of them is i don't feel like that person should think that elimming the wrong one means we just lose? maybe you can elaborate

[Prism]

Pseudo-final reads

Town
======
skitter30
fireisred
Shuichi
Datisi
Dwlee
Enchant
VP Baltar
Aristeia
======
Scum & scum-adjacent

I'm actually going to head out and hopefully not check my phone 24/7. If I get bored after I get home in the evening/am still alive by then I'll reread Datisi and whip out the question bank.

[Dwlee99]

A town!baltar lim is probably losing

ok ive been thinking on it and i don't think this perspective makes that much sense from someone who thinks prism is scum?

like yeah if vp and prism are both town then we're def in trouble. but if someone thinks exactly one of them is i don't feel like that person should think that elimming the wrong one means we just lose? maybe you can elaborate

I really don't think it's guaranteed one of them is scum

[fireisredsir]

what the

did i miss where ari became scum again

[Prism]

i'm shitposting she is 99% town lmao

[fireisredsir]

smh you had me scrolling through the iso looking to see if the setup spec argument had you actually thinking she was scum again

[Prism]

alright this is a pact

skitter/fire if i post again before 7p EST you vote me

[VP Baltar]

Pseudo-final reads

Town
======
skitter30
fireisred
Shuichi
Datisi
Dwlee
Enchant
VP Baltar
Aristeia
======
Scum & scum-adjacent

I'm actually going to head out and hopefully not check my phone 24/7. If I get bored after I get home in the evening/am still alive by then I'll reread Datisi and whip out the question bank.

wait I am buddies with Ari then?

[fireisredsir]

I really don't think it's guaranteed one of them is scum

i know you said you don't really have scumreads rn but can you at least think about who it would be if it isn't either of them

because from my pov if it isn't either of them its like almost definitely you lol

and it might be even if it is one of them

[Enchant]

Pseudo-final reads

Town
======
skitter30
fireisred
Shuichi
Datisi
Dwlee
Enchant
VP Baltar
Aristeia
======
Scum & scum-adjacent

I'm actually going to head out and hopefully not check my phone 24/7. If I get bored after I get home in the evening/am still alive by then I'll reread Datisi and whip out the question bank.

Are these upside down or what?

[fireisredsir]

haha silly enchant and vp thinking that the ari scumread is real, no one could ever really think that

[skitter30]

VOTE: Prism
I'm sleep deprived!

Let's keep the party rolling fam!

^ @vpb

I don't know what this is supposed to mean. How is me supporting the prism wagon, which I have been on for a long time now, "entering anyone but me" mode?

The tone is egging on the prism vote

[skitter30]

A town!baltar lim is probably losing

Y tho

[skitter30]

like it opens up a possible path for vp!town that i just wasn't seeing at all before

can you explain this

i previously could not map some of vp's actions onto a model of him as town. the biggest one being his lack of engagement/interaction with you and any attempt to solve your slot

and the fact that there's a hood that is apparently pretty active helps potentially fill in some of the gaps in his progressions and attempts to solve

but on the other hand shuichi has known about the hood the whole time and still thinks vp is scum for similar reasons to what i think, so maybe this new information is just throwing me off by making a few things click but shouldn't really be case-shattering

@vpb super townie post ^

[fireisredsir]

ok i too have to pretend to be a real human person in the real human world today so i will attempt to not sit here and spam refresh this thread on my phone all day as usual

[Shuichi Saihara]

Maybe it's your avatar - maybe its because you are tryharding and prism tends to make her partner tryhard so far outside their normal townrange it looks distorted.

Yes i am assuming prism is mafia and I shouldn't preflip but I am an idiot.

I'm tryharding bc this is my tryhard account!

[skitter30]

alright this is a pact

skitter/fire if i post again before 7p EST you vote me

:thumbups: enjoy ur wednesday prism!

[VP Baltar]

VOTE: Prism
I'm sleep deprived!

Let's keep the party rolling fam!

^ @vpb

I don't know what this is supposed to mean. How is me supporting the prism wagon, which I have been on for a long time now, "entering anyone but me" mode?

The tone is egging on the prism vote

Yes, because I support a prism lim and have for awhile. Again, how is that an "anyone but me" mentality? I'm not advocating for lims that are outside my poe and potentially popular.

[Shuichi Saihara]

Trying hard is exhausting tho so even though I need to do more isos today to finish by eod... I might just get high instead