Mini Normal 2271 - Game Over

[koopashell]

Maybe stop trying to push LHF who are easily findable as town and we can make it happen.

[MalcolmTucker]

I'd like a hammer asap. We aren't getting anywhere.

Alternatives I would consider to NK15 are HEM and Kitty. HEM has toned it down a bit but could just be clever mafia play, I'm fairly sure there's one in NK15/HEM.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Sheep me in Malakittens please

[MalcolmTucker]

Nah, still not feeling Mala.

[JacksonVirgo]

I'd like a hammer asap. We aren't getting anywhere.

Alternatives I would consider to NK15 are HEM and Kitty. HEM has toned it down a bit but could just be clever mafia play, I'm fairly sure there's one in NK15/HEM.

I would rather neither of those.

[humaneatingmonkey]

okay but if i make this elim happen and they flip scum, don't be sick of the amount of i told you sos that will rain upon you

[koopashell]

Sheep me in Malakittens please

I'm turning around on it - especially want to sheep Kitty on the read too.

I think you are town based on our last normal + your insistence to pull content out of mala is +town rather than just trying to bury her for it. As in going for the -> Hey please explain stuff and post your thoughts for me so I can try to get a better read on you vs. This person is just scum


If that makes sense.


I think people are too tunneled on NK15's playstyle and that gets mislimmed and it makes me sad.

[koopashell]

Nah, still not feeling Mala.

NK15 is doing significantly more solving than Mala - what do you townread mala for then?

[Roden]

Roden why did you drop Mala

I was having doubts when Mala started to actually play since her comeback felt genuinely townie. And Leaf claiming to be pocketed but literally being unable to explain why or how made me think Mala was the actual pocket instead. With that in mind, my gut was telling me that a Mala flip could lead to some chain mis-elims. Even if Leaf is scum, the elim wasn't happening today and I wanted to look for potential buddies instead.

However the Koba reveal is forcing me to hard reset entirely. Literally nothing is out of their scum range, and I need to reevaluate their main points to see if they were genuine or if I was just getting taken along for a ride. I feel like I've been getting heavily encouraged to tunnel Leaf, and despite my own attempts to try to step back I now just have all bad vibes gnawing away in the pit of my stomach.

[humaneatingmonkey]

your insistence to pull content out of mala is +town rather than just trying to bury her for it.

yes that is a hallmark of my scum game lmao

[humaneatingmonkey]

However the Koba reveal is forcing me to hard reset entirely. Literally nothing is out of their scum range, and I need to reevaluate their main points to see if they were genuine or if I was just getting taken along for a ride. I feel like I've been getting heavily encouraged to tunnel Leaf, and despite my own attempts to try to step back I now just have all bad vibes gnawing away in the pit of my stomach.

if you trust me
1.) i need you to defocus on koopa and look for a realistic D1 lim
2.) review my case on Malakittens

[koopashell]

I'd like a hammer asap. We aren't getting anywhere.

Alternatives I would consider to NK15 are HEM and Kitty. HEM has toned it down a bit but could just be clever mafia play, I'm fairly sure there's one in NK15/HEM.

I would rather neither of those.

Talk to me about Scorpious. I personally feel a more OMGUSy vibe in the sense that I have tended to be too trusting of people who just shitpush me and I feel they are towny for the stubbornness - But I've been extremely snowed by this kind of play in the past and its one of my bigger holes in my reading ability. I just had a game finish on a different site where I had a player do that to me and its fresh on my mind and I want to get a better perspective from someone who suspects them. I have Scorpious as scum mainly because of PoE and not because I can feasibly read them as scum here.

[MalcolmTucker]

Nah, still not feeling Mala.

NK15 is doing significantly more solving than Mala - what do you townread mala for then?

Mafia inherently make an effort to solve because they want to appear town. You seem to sometimes solely read people on how obviously scummy they look but mafia want to blend in and good players do so successfully to a point if town can't find them. Mala doesn't seem particularly bothered to me and I don't think their posts are coming from anything other than fairly uninvolved town at the moment, similar with Scorpious to a degree although I'm intrigued to see how they play going forward.

[MalcolmTucker]

Roden why did you drop Mala

I was having doubts when Mala started to actually play since her comeback felt genuinely townie. And Leaf claiming to be pocketed but literally being unable to explain why or how made me think Mala was the actual pocket instead. With that in mind, my gut was telling me that a Mala flip could lead to some chain mis-elims. Even if Leaf is scum, the elim wasn't happening today and I wanted to look for potential buddies instead.

However the Koba reveal is forcing me to hard reset entirely. Literally nothing is out of their scum range, and I need to reevaluate their main points to see if they were genuine or if I was just getting taken along for a ride. I feel like I've been getting heavily encouraged to tunnel Leaf, and despite my own attempts to try to step back I now just have all bad vibes gnawing away in the pit of my stomach.

This feels very, very townie for what it's worth.

[koopashell]

Roden why did you drop Mala

I was having doubts when Mala started to actually play since her comeback felt genuinely townie. And Leaf claiming to be pocketed but literally being unable to explain why or how made me think Mala was the actual pocket instead. With that in mind, my gut was telling me that a Mala flip could lead to some chain mis-elims. Even if Leaf is scum, the elim wasn't happening today and I wanted to look for potential buddies instead.

However the Koba reveal is forcing me to hard reset entirely. Literally nothing is out of their scum range, and I need to reevaluate their main points to see if they were genuine or if I was just getting taken along for a ride. I feel like I've been getting heavily encouraged to tunnel Leaf, and despite my own attempts to try to step back I now just have all bad vibes gnawing away in the pit of my stomach.

FWIW - Scum me just lets FL kill you if we are T/S

[MalcolmTucker]

Anyway I need to go, will evaluate everything in the morning. Please don't add 20 pages.

[MathBlade]

I'd like a hammer asap. We aren't getting anywhere.

Alternatives I would consider to NK15 are HEM and Kitty. HEM has toned it down a bit but could just be clever mafia play, I'm fairly sure there's one in NK15/HEM.

I’d go HEM in that case but I would rather not dismantle the NK15 wagon much as I prefer HEM as more people I townread are on NK assuming no major vote shifts.

I am scared if I change votes at this point we will no elim.

[Scorpious]

Did I mention I am also 1-shot Bulletproof :p

:\ .. also lolz

[JacksonVirgo]

I want to get a better perspective from someone who suspects them.

I don't scum-read them?

[koopashell]

I want to get a better perspective from someone who suspects them.

I don't scum-read them?

You have them in your PoE

[JacksonVirgo]

I want to get a better perspective from someone who suspects them.

I don't scum-read them?

You have them in your PoE

No I don't. And PoE doesn't mean I necessarily scum-read them.

[koopashell]

Gamma, Italian, Andres and NK.

All of which are in the PoE. I took Italiano out of the question temporarily. This is the pure PoE if all my reads up until this point are correct, which I do not believe is the case anymore. NK red leads to Koopa red which leads to Andres green. Not sure where I'd go from that point but in that case the remaining is currently in my brain as Gamma/Italian.

ah my b I think I mixed up your scumreads with someone else's and/or mixed up italiano with scorpious.

[humaneatingmonkey]

why dont you just go ahead and join the game as DkKoba so we can see you for you for who you really are

[koopashell]

Roden why did you drop Mala

I was having doubts when Mala started to actually play since her comeback felt genuinely townie. And Leaf claiming to be pocketed but literally being unable to explain why or how made me think Mala was the actual pocket instead. With that in mind, my gut was telling me that a Mala flip could lead to some chain mis-elims. Even if Leaf is scum, the elim wasn't happening today and I wanted to look for potential buddies instead.

However the Koba reveal is forcing me to hard reset entirely. Literally nothing is out of their scum range, and I need to reevaluate their main points to see if they were genuine or if I was just getting taken along for a ride. I feel like I've been getting heavily encouraged to tunnel Leaf, and despite my own attempts to try to step back I now just have all bad vibes gnawing away in the pit of my stomach.

btw hope you realize that I literally felt the same way re: Leaf and it is shown in my posts and how I tried to engage FL there.

[MathBlade]

Gamma, Italian, Andres and NK.

All of which are in the PoE. I took Italiano out of the question temporarily. This is the pure PoE if all my reads up until this point are correct, which I do not believe is the case anymore. NK red leads to Koopa red which leads to Andres green. Not sure where I'd go from that point but in that case the remaining is currently in my brain as Gamma/Italian.

ah my b I think I mixed up your scumreads with someone else's and/or mixed up italiano with scorpious.

Please….slow down. This pace is unmaintable.