Micro 1052: Lake Melancholy [END]

[Dwlee99]

Slaughterhouse, the game where mafia specifically tried to kill me in one of the games because I was *checks notes* sandbagging?

[Prism]

Absolutely mindboggling that you can spend several real life days advocating policing me without any regard for my dayplay at all and have the gall to flop and cry foul when I tilt and castigate you for playing like shit and not trying.

[Prism]

I am happy for you if you consider Slaughter Hour a beacon of effort and good play. I will drop the subject and not litigate the past further.

[Dwlee99]

Why do I have to spend tons of effort trying to squeeze water out of a rock if Aristeia is screaming you're scum?

[Dwlee99]

You've had a grudge against me since before I even knew who you were it's okay lol

[Prism]

When we are not actively playing, I don't give a shit about you. When you are trying, I make some effort to accommodate and cooperate and work together.

There is no grudge involved in this. I do not think highly of your play, correct. This is not a grudge and is in disgustingly bad faith.

[Dwlee99]

Prism the first time you talked to me you told me you have never agreed with anything I've ever written how is that not a grudge

[Prism]

It means I do not think highly of your play. It is nothing against you as a person.

[Prism]

I do not appreciate this. You are goading me into attacking you further and begging me to make it personal. It is about play. There is an immense lack of respect for your play. That is the sum and total.

[Dwlee99]

And you can sit here and be like "oh I'm insulting the play not the player" on the technicality that you are discussing my play but uh everything you've written about my play is extremely insulting and accuses me of breaking rules by not playing to win con which is a pretty serious charge to make with zero basis

[VP Baltar]

vp can you put the effort that you put into explaining your datisi progression into solving the game

like case me if thats what you want idc, just... something not about you?

don't get me wrong i did read the post thoroughly and appreciate the clarity it provided but even with the effort that still lands more on the social game side of things

Nah, I'm not putting a higher rate of effort into this game than i am right now. I already spent like WAY too many hours this week on the game. It's fucking absurd for you to sit here and demand a bunch more work from me when you're probably scum here, and if you're not, well....

[Prism]

I wonder why I would be tilted by your play and very insulting after multiple calendar days advocating policying me without regard for my play.

I am not accusing you of breaking the rules and do not think the low-effort, propped-up style I described earlier is doing so.

[VP Baltar]

and i would much prefer that to you putting a bunch of effort into responding to shuichi's case but do that if you must

We will see if I feel up to it. I don't right now.

[Dwlee99]

You were advocating policying you not even 2 days ago

And accusing me of sandbagging as town to win as scum would definitely fall under not playing to win con and would be breaking site rules. Good thing I don't do that

[skitter30]

My solve rn is dwlee/vpb

Essentially at same point, I do expect this level of play drom Dwlee having seen similar in Slaughter Hour/D&C

Differences are that they don't have any pet scumreads whatsoever, actual zero, when normally they draw a name from a hat and die on the hill giving one liners. The policying me angle is lazy and anti-competitive as fuck whereas normally they take some pride in guessing iirc

My pet scumread claimed bunyip and everyone unvoted lol

Ok so like no reassessment since then?

[Dwlee99]

My solve rn is dwlee/vpb

Essentially at same point, I do expect this level of play drom Dwlee having seen similar in Slaughter Hour/D&C

Differences are that they don't have any pet scumreads whatsoever, actual zero, when normally they draw a name from a hat and die on the hill giving one liners. The policying me angle is lazy and anti-competitive as fuck whereas normally they take some pride in guessing iirc

My pet scumread claimed bunyip and everyone unvoted lol

Ok so like no reassessment since then?

I reassessed VP this morning wdym

[fireisredsir]

Nah, I'm not putting a higher rate of effort into this game than i am right now. I already spent like WAY too many hours this week on the game. It's fucking absurd for you to sit here and demand a bunch more work from me when you're probably scum here, and if you're not, well....

im not asking you to increase your effort. im asking you to redirect it away from talking about yourself. if you are not willing to do that, then i will have to continue to assume that your priority is your own survival and not on the gamesolving and scumhunting that i have seen you do in the past when under threat of death as town

[Prism]

"Sandbagging" implies more intent behind it. I do not think there is explicit intent; I think it is how the style shakes out over time. I think it is extremely common on-site and in mafia in general and do not think you are alone in it.

My issues with your play this game are numerous and my feelings about your play this game assuming you are town, and your style in general, is extremely strong. I do not give a shit outside of the game, and I would not have answered your query about NEET etc. if I despised you as a person.

[skitter30]

A town!baltar lim is probably losing

If smarter people than me still want VPB I'll lim there though sure

This is what u mean by reasseasment? Or something else that i'm missing

[Prism]

I again do not think you are breaking any rules, or have in previous games. I do not think highly of your style. That is all.

[Dwlee99]

You literally said the word sandbagging, that word choice wasn't mine.

[Prism]

I agree. 2017 is a clarification of how I tend to use it not lining up to the broader usage.

I cannot be more clear than in the above post.

[Dwlee99]

A town!baltar lim is probably losing

If smarter people than me still want VPB I'll lim there though sure

This is what u mean by reasseasment? Or something else that i'm missing

I had him as scum and now I'm back to just not being sure about him

[Prism]

Can I return to critiquing/evaluating your play now without it being held as an out-of-game grudge or allegations of rulebreaking?

I again cannot more emphatically deny the first and on the second will apologize for my use of the specific word "sandbagging", which comes with intent, instead of my more nuanced stance that I do not believe is either intentional or rulebreaking.

[Prism]

I curse like a sailor without any regard for friend/foe. I can make an effort to cut out the strength of this language, along with unusual descriptors of mine like "disgusting" [aesthetically], if it helps make you more comfortable, and apologize if this contributed to out-of-game grudge ideas. I again cannot emphasize more that I respect you as a person and that you are valued, and that my evaluation/holistic opinion of your play is entirely separate.