Micro 1052: Lake Melancholy [END]

[Aristeia]

enchant has spent less than 2% of the effort Dwlee has so I have a hard time believing this is about Dwlee's effort and not the fact that Dwlee is voting for you

[Aristeia]

and I just got out of a game where town enchant vigged me and then hammered the person who defended me as "mechtown" in the next day which also happened to be mylo so I know a thing or two about how completely garbage Enchant's play is

[Aristeia]

yes Enchant I hate you and I hate how little you give a shit about trying to win.

see that's a grudge

[Prism]

I am not going to weigh in on Enchant's style right now for the sake of some idea of fairness.

Please stop, Aristeia.

[Aristeia]

What you're doing is just trying to give Dwlee shit for voting you which doesn't make sense since you said you are fine with being flipped [I don't think you do and the fact anyone believes it is fucking mind boggling to me](this is @ you skitter)

[Aristeia]

if we're actually giving people shit about not efforting in games we should start at the bottom of the "i dont give a fuck and I don't feel like trying" totem pole

[Aristeia]

that was @ you in case you couldn't tell Enchant

[skitter30]

Ari i'm kinda confused why you cant see it

I think ur very tunneled rn tbh

I dont have much more to add today, i prefer vpb but if we must flip prism ro move the game forward i supose i'm ok with that but very unideal for me

If prism like flips town tho do we get to flip vpb tomorrow or @ari

[Prism]

Aristeia, you have made your point that you think that my frustration is a scum-driven move. If does not help my tilt that Dwlee is voting me specifically and advocating to policy me specifically, yes.

Please stop.

[Aristeia]

sure i'll sheep you if prism flips town

[Dwlee99]

Can I return to critiquing/evaluating your play now without it being held as an out-of-game grudge or allegations of rulebreaking?

I again cannot more emphatically deny the first and on the second will apologize for my use of the specific word "sandbagging", which comes with intent, instead of my more nuanced stance that I do not believe is either intentional or rulebreaking.

I curse like a sailor without any regard for friend/foe. I can make an effort to cut out the strength of this language, along with unusual descriptors of mine like "disgusting" [aesthetically], if it helps make you more comfortable, and apologize if this contributed to out-of-game grudge ideas. I again cannot emphasize more that I respect you as a person and that you are valued, and that my evaluation/holistic opinion of your play is entirely separate.

Sure and I'm sorry for immediately assuming the worst out of your usage of sandbagging

[Aristeia]

I think ur very tunneled rn tbh

I know I am very tunneled but it doesn't mean I'm wrong.

[Aristeia]

also if Prism flips mafia and I get shot at night just make sure Cephrir doesn't endgame

[Dwlee99]

I think there is a congruence issue between Prism suggesting we should policy her and not liking when I say we should policy her

[Prism]

I again really do apologize for that word choice. I do not think you throw games or try to. I have an extremely high-effort style that you do not share, and have my opinions about it and effects it create.

Sandbagging 100% implies intent and you are correct+in being upset about its usage. I am the one that needs to be mindful of its widespread usage and definition, not you of my own use of it as shorthand.

[skitter30]

Is it bad that part of me is lowkey wondering if ari is scum ... ?
This might be bad
But yeah

[Prism]

I think there is a congruence issue between Prism suggesting we should policy her and not liking when I say we should policy her

I think this is valid, but I had a post earlier about my own shift in how much I cared that I might dig up later.

I also have always been skeptical of your intent in tagging along, particularly when you seemed to

not

find my vote inevitable.

[Aristeia]

Ari i'm kinda confused why you cant see it

I think ur very tunneled rn tbh

I dont have much more to add today, i prefer vpb but if we must flip prism ro move the game forward i supose i'm ok with that but very unideal for me

If prism like flips town tho do we get to flip vpb tomorrow or @ari

I apologize for being dismissive and mean.

What would you like for me to see?

[Aristeia]

Is it bad that part of me is lowkey wondering if ari is scum ... ?
This might be bad
But yeah

You would feel better if you dismiss the idea I could possibly be mafia from your mind.

[Prism]

Is it bad that part of me is lowkey wondering if ari is scum ... ?
This might be bad
But yeah

I do not think she is.

[skitter30]

What you're doing is just trying to give Dwlee shit for voting you which doesn't make sense since you said you are fine with being flipped [I don't think you do and the fact anyone believes it is fucking mind boggling to me](this is @ you skitter)

Well, this ....

she keeps saying she's fine with getting flipped
And she's doing little to prevent that from happening
She isnt really convincing the swing voters to vote elsewhere
And her overall vibe just seems very chill with being flipped, over a longish time period

None of this seems congruent with being scum, or with not being ok with being flipped

I'm not sure why u think she isnt really ...

[Aristeia]

And she's doing little to prevent that from happening

really?


There's 3 votes on her.

She knows my vote isn't moving and there is nothing she can possibly say to me to make me change my mind.

She is trying to flip VPB so she's not going to change his mind.

#3 is Dwlee which just happens to be the target of her browbeating right now

[Aristeia]

She isnt really convincing the swing voters to vote elsewhere

if she's town why wouldn't she want people to vote elsewhere ?

This isn't a point in favor of her.

[Aristeia]

she keeps saying she's fine with getting flipped

Skitter when I say I am fine with being flipped and I'm town and I mean it.

I usually am at e-1 and have lost all patience with the town.

And I will give them a time to say things and then self-hammer.

and I will follow through with Self Hammer.

Saying you are ok with being flipped when there are no votes on you is just performative defensive AtE.

[Aristeia]

And her overall vibe just seems very chill with being flipped, over a longish time period

I don't understand why you think you can vibe-read Prism.

Do you really think she will be telegraphing some kind of scum fear or w/e if she's scum here?

Do you think it would be some kind of panic?

If anything being cool doesn't actually make sense if you think you are being flipped by town cuz reasons if you are town.

I have been flipped many times D1 as town and I have never been cool with it.