Mini 2270: Spring Fling!

[Andante]

but i disagree with your partner being scum andante

i'm more confidence elsewhere.

MY PARTNER IS MAFIA, why are you convinced I'm with town?

[Lukewarm]

I am vaguely against Bell proposing to myko, because I want to kill myko and enchant tomorrow.

idk i kinda think myko is town

There have been a lot of posts that I didn't like.

Want to talk about why you think they are town?

[Bell]

If you’re 100% sure your partner is mafia then just leave.

[Cephrir]

whatever, I can at least try.

I want to leave this dance now

is there any chance we can use votes this game

something fire and i did briefly discuss is our mutual desire to have wagons happen via vote i hate getting to day 4 and being like well i have no idea what anyone has pushed because everyone yololeft

[fireisredsir]

DO NONE YALL BELIEVE ME? PRISM SLOT IS MAFIA

you also think im mafia so im not exactly convinced by this lol

but it could be, i didn't really TR prism. you're the one who has the power to leave, tho, so you don't really have to convince anyone

[Andante]

If you’re 100% sure your partner is mafia then just leave.

well I'm also 100% sure I'm town, so like, if it's possible to just yeet my partner, I'll take that option... whatever you want me dead? I don't even care, I think your deadline to pair is soon anyways

[Bell]

I want bell to propose to me and Prism slot gone tbh

No. You’re gunna have to carry that weight.

why is that a hard no?

Because I disagree. You missed my posts where I said I think prism is/was town.

[Cephrir]

I am vaguely against Bell proposing to myko, because I want to kill myko and enchant tomorrow.

idk i kinda think myko is town

There have been a lot of posts that I didn't like.

Want to talk about why you think they are town?

sure. i think the main reason was his plan to pair with enchant, firstly at all (enchant is probably the worst partner scum could ask for if he's town), and secondly apparently with the intention of suiciding on him. i think i liked at least one post for content reasons recently. ill look for that

[Andante]

A New Hope ends in: (expired on 2022-04-24 02:00:00)

rip there's a whole 49 more hours of this

[Bell]

If you’re 100% sure your partner is mafia then just leave.

well I'm also 100% sure I'm town, so like, if it's possible to just yeet my partner, I'll take that option... whatever you want me dead? I don't even care, I think your deadline to pair is soon anyways

Deal wif it.

[Bell]

I’m waiting for datasi to get back and the. I’ll just start trying to move the discussion productively to who I should pair with.

[Bell]

For now I’m just trying to sort.

[Lukewarm]

I am vaguely against Bell proposing to myko, because I want to kill myko and enchant tomorrow.

idk i kinda think myko is town

There have been a lot of posts that I didn't like.

Want to talk about why you think they are town?

sure. i think the main reason was his plan to pair with enchant, firstly at all (enchant is probably the worst partner scum could ask for if he's town), and secondly apparently with the intention of suiciding on him. i think i liked at least one post for content reasons recently. ill look for that

What made you think that he was intending to leave with Enchant? What I saw was him refuse to answer the question.

[Lukewarm]

What made you think that he was intending to leave with Enchant? What I saw was him refuse to answer the question.

Which is one of the posts that bothered me btw

[Cephrir]

Mykonian do you plan to leave with enchant?

I think I'm happy to leave this one up in the air.

Feels like she was just the most town read player in the PL. I doubt a you+ydra pair had even a small chance of going through.

Alright then.

So this is the first person for who it makes sense that this kill happened. Scumpoints for Luke.

I got some town vibes from these two posts. Note that if you ask why you will get a cephrir brand reason-that-only-makes-sense-to-cephrir.

This should be interesting, having Bell with initiative. I don't mind this at all.

Now that we have had the flip, my feeling about yesterday is that scum had their problems sorted before the end of the day. I don't think Luke looked bad towards the end of the day, I don't think Mala went out her way to be the casting vote. I don't think the unbolded acceptance was a gambit. Mala lurked a fair bit, right now I don't feel like that's particularly scummy. Of that pair she's the one I do worry most about.

As mentioned yesterday, I think the game flowed about as expected, I fear that means scum was entirely too comfortable.

The first thing I thought yesterday when the pairs started forming was that.. I think it was actually Noraa? called that it would be scummy to pair early as scum is really survival minded. I've played something similar IRL where pairs somehow formed in 10 seconds to have 3 townies realize quite late that they had missed the boat and one of them wasn't going to make it. Anyway, really quickly after that statement about worrying about early pairings, Prism and Andante pair up. I think that boldness of Prism was town and I had a decent gut feeling about Andante. I have been quite happy in my Bell tunnel and seeing then the "bandwagon" where Bell quickly paired up with Ydrasse after I wasn't so fond of. Enchant being quite accommodating about me was quite weird at the time too. I don't think there was ever a question of Cephrir making it and tbh I haven't really read those pages too closely, but I don't think you can call that early anymore.

Now with the nightkill we get a lot of extra info. If Bell is scum, he's probably the "minor partner" in a scumteam that you can happily take a risk with. The upside is pretty good, Bell becomes an agent that can "choose" an elimination and with so many pairs still out there there's a decent chance someone is going to accept it. I think the ability to be proactive could paint Bell in a pretty good light after today too. It's a small risk high reward play.

If Bell is town this Ydrasse kill is genuinely the best kill scum could make and this is potentially a setup to have Bell be left out in the cold. I have two slight issues with this, but they are personal. I don't think Ydrasse stood out all that much in terms of reads or how much the town listened to them. I think much of the reason they weren't in the spotlight at all was because they very quickly took themselves out of the equation by pairing up, and they were a lady anyway so not on the chopping block. Before the night Ydrasse was a solid Null to me. Further I don't think Bell is actually suspected that much by people beyond me, so I'm not seeing the goal of a mislynch there. I think if this is the case the situation is even worse than I already think as the kill was not in my townreads (and they then might not be so town after all).

that said considering how much text is in this post it's pretty unimpressive.

[Cephrir]

I am vaguely against Bell proposing to myko, because I want to kill myko and enchant tomorrow.

idk i kinda think myko is town

There have been a lot of posts that I didn't like.

Want to talk about why you think they are town?

sure. i think the main reason was his plan to pair with enchant, firstly at all (enchant is probably the worst partner scum could ask for if he's town), and secondly apparently with the intention of suiciding on him. i think i liked at least one post for content reasons recently. ill look for that

What made you think that he was intending to leave with Enchant? What I saw was him refuse to answer the question.

i think something he said a while ago made me think this, not his recent question dodge.

[Andante]

why do I even try...

[Bell]

Mostly because their entire persentation of themselves has an air of conceit and contempt and Enchant is an obvious example of the type of player myko would murder if they’re trying to appear consistent?

[Andante]

Bell if you TRed prism so much, why not take ginngie?

[Malakittens]

why do I even try...

[Malakittens]

Bell if you TRed prism so much, why not take ginngie?

Because Bell should be trying to eliminate scum and try to stick with a hardcore town

at least thats my reasoning

[Cephrir]

Of the remaining ladies, I don't trust enchant. I do not want them to make the final pairing. I think we should leave the most important one with fire or datisi atm.

Sorry, phoneposting and it is late:

propose to enchant

You look so wonderful tonight, may I have this dance of you?

So look at enchants iso. It doesn't discuss other players yet. Tiniest bit of judgement with regards to mechanics. But there is no threat of elimination today, no way to force them to open up.

I proposed and in a way forced them to judge me. Not accepting the offer yet is one suggestion of a read enchant may have, though they only suggest my proposal is "fearless" in some way. They didn't say "no".

I have no incentive this day to pair with town, my life won't be tied to enchant in any way. So fearless makes no sense.

The elimination is going to be in the gentlemen and I think there are valid targets left there. Compared to a normal game I lack control over who is going to be eliminated and I don't think this is the time to strongarm the conversation about it as I may have done for Bell. Having Bell in the final two today would have been the best.

i think scum are going to be aware that enchant is limbait and not want to pair with him, and also the thought process here of intentionally pairing with a scumread makes sense from perspective of a townie who has thought about the setup and feels confident in their reading abilities

[Bell]

why do I even try...

Doggo, are you being for real right now. Because like, what.
What are you even saying or doing or thinking. I don’t even know what to say to this. What?

What

[Dunnstral]

Andante, if you're serious and you're town and plan to leave during the next phase, why do you need to convince us of that?

[Malakittens]

having a meltdown