Mini 2270: Spring Fling!

[Ginngie]

Would it be mean to say that it bolsters my towncred that Andante scumreads me

I'm sorry but at the end of the day it's kinda funny reading their interactions this game. To be so confidently wrong and have that confidence be unwavering. Gonna pissed with the fact that I townread it because town are bullheaded dullards.

[Enchant]

Either way, if you suspect me AND Myko, then pairing with us is unlogical.

Is this at me? I didn't write that I suspected Myko in that post, or in any post really

It's for bell, as i said he should't even listen to anyone.

[Ginngie]

Btw if it's possible for Andante just demand to leave and I get auto eliminated, I'd rather Bell just propose to Andante this phase, I get eliminated, and game moves on.

Only reason I'd recommend the auto elimination(if that's how that works) is due to the fact that I wouldn't trust Andante with a 10 foot pole in the final dance.

So like legit, I want it discussed if Andante forces our pair to leave, why it wouldn't be more logical to just eliminate me. Spares one town slot at least compared to wasting two slots.

[mykonian]

How about we eliminate scum.

[Dunnstral]

Good idea, who do you recommend?

[Ginngie]

oh hey i got questions for you, not sure if they're answered yet but I have these on my notepad.

If you ar town, why not just use this to pressure and see what information you could've gotten. Even if you don't believe it and love Noraa to bits, just pretend? It's not going to decide how the day ends anyway.

I have no idea why you'd try to defuse the situation and it annoys me to no end.

fucking preach, I do like myko basically holding my same viewpoint, can't do much with just agreeing with a player tho.

+Ask Myko why they wanted a bell wagon when majority opinion at the time was reading town!bell++Also post 131 by Luke stating that they never played together makes Mykos post really weird. I get trying to meta read but not having one game together makes the interaction not make sense anymore. Dont think 135 was a satifisying answer to Luke about the post.

[Ginngie]

Also I know it's my own slot but Prism is fucking funny idc what you say

Don't really see the issue. Classic "Why get in the way?" reaction to Bell, naive and doesn't know the Lovecraftian cosmic horror level of spam that these specific two players will throw up if left unchecked.

Reminds me of when I would get into spats with Alisae when I first started playing the game. Bloody insane.

[Ginngie]

For transparency I told Andante in chat rn to talk to Bell to try and eliminate me this phase. They have an opportunity to eliminate me today, so like why not try for it lol

[Enchant]

For transparency I told Andante in chat rn to talk to Bell to try and eliminate me this phase. They have an opportunity to eliminate me today, so like why not try for it lol

Um ok, it looks weird from outside.

[Ginngie]

It's weird on the inside as well. Still tho, if you think about it. Andante is doing the newbie play of being so confident in a read they're willing to literally die themselves in order to get their scumread dead.

I know the best course of action is to actually get Andante to get Bell to propose because that further sorts the Bell slot. Also creates more discussion because now people have to convince Bell to not choose me or such; thus more reads are generated. So yeah, I encourage Andante to try their hardest to eliminate me; because now it forces everyone to actively solve our 3 slots in question.

[Enchant]

Why sacrifice self if you know you are town?

Like i know i don't give a fuck, but why you don't?

[mykonian]

oh hey i got questions for you, not sure if they're answered yet but I have these on my notepad.

+Ask Myko why they wanted a bell wagon when majority opinion at the time was reading town!bell++Also post 131 by Luke stating that they never played together makes Mykos post really weird. I get trying to meta read but not having one game together makes the interaction not make sense anymore. Dont think 135 was a satifisying answer to Luke about the post.

I think they were scum for the way they posted. I think I explained why too. What the rest thinks hardly matters. I'm still quite annoyed we didn't get to see them at least under pressure towards the end of the day.

But bell being central today makes all that pretty immaterial. I am looking forward to their choice and the discussion.

I feel the second isn't really a question so it is hard to answer. Most of you joined after I left, I won't have meta.

@dunn. The dream is fire, but in fairness this is from individual posts where I'm worried about them, mostly yesterday. I didn't do a proper reread of them yet.

[Ginngie]

Why sacrifice self if you know you are scum

no matter what it's dumb to sacrifice yourself. it's not AI.

Also, let me be clear, I'm not advocating for my own death, I just want Andante to push me more. I'm confident enough where even if Andante pushes me it's not going to be the nail in the coffin of my slot. I just know that pushing me will generate reads for everyone. More talking means more solving.

Remember how i said I want my scumreads to talk to me? Everyone reads those interactions and even makes posts about them.


@Myko So far I'm only on datsi's beginning posts at 227 and I'll share what I have so far. So I probably haven't seen most discussion yet. Also do you mean to say you have meta on others but others wont have meta on you?

Spoiler: catching up

K.
*slams* breaks.
Both of you. Shush for a little. I already see where this is going.
Let’s all lurk for a bit before inevitably losing self control and spamming again.

Gotta level with ya, I don't particularly enjoy hampering discussion. Talking is the only way to win the game.

I do get the sentiment but still I would rather not discourage it.

If you ar town, why not just use this to pressure and see what information you could've gotten. Even if you don't believe it and love Noraa to bits, just pretend? It's not going to decide how the day ends anyway.

I have no idea why you'd try to defuse the situation and it annoys me to no end.

fucking preach, I do like myko basically holding my same viewpoint, can't do much with just agreeing with a player tho.

Just as a heads up, I am actively trying to bring down the site wide perception of me being super high energy all of the time. Because, it is pretty not fun when I am town in a low energy irl day, and then everyone decides that low energy luke = scum luke, and so then low energy irl luke feels pressured to amp it up to not eat a miselim.

Take from that what you will, but I am aware that that might lead to me eating some miselims before people buy that I am changing my town playstyle for my own benefit.

AtE but I feel this pain. I remember stopping because it got to the point where oh ginngies posting she's town and oh they're not posting she's scum. Whats the point if you're just gonna be slotted based on activity. Ignore this post for the game, just a general gripe I have with peeople who read based on activity.

127 gives me flashbacks to the last game i've seen someone say "i'm purposefully trying to change my meta" and then they flipped scum, but we'll see

I do have to admit I myself have done this as scum and confbias tells me it's always been the case. Yes this somewhat contradicts what I said about AtE with Luke but still, it's mainly understanding Datsi's take here.

[mykonian]

Also do you mean to say you have meta on others but others wont have meta on you?

nah, I didn't read any other games at this moment. I just joined and started playing.

Meaning my "meta" on cephrir was apparently from 2009 according to them

[Ginngie]

Okay idk if this makes sense and is kinda game related but not really, do you find it refreshing playing with a bunch of people, who for the most part haven't played with before? I can't meta anyone here if I'm honest except maybe Dunn but it sounds foolish to try and meta dunn anyway.

[Enchant]

Why sacrifice self if you know you are scum

Indeed, but acting like you are ready for that...
... Hold the fuck up.

[Ginngie]

After first ten pages of catch up this is where I'm at:

Town: Dunn, Andante, Mala
Not town: Everyone else

dunn because I said so, Andante I've stated clearly and Mala is more townlean but townlean isn't scum so.

[Ginngie]

Why sacrifice self if you know you are scum

Indeed, but acting like you are ready for that...
... Hold the fuck up.

what are you holding?

[mykonian]

Okay idk if this makes sense and is kinda game related but not really, do you find it refreshing playing with a bunch of people, who for the most part haven't played with before? I can't meta anyone here if I'm honest except maybe Dunn but it sounds foolish to try and meta dunn anyway.

I never did meta all that much. I got "in tune" with a few select people? Where their thoughts made sense and but it stopped being that way if they were scum. I joined at the end of where you could consider MS to be small, but I read a lot of those games, I think from this game MS kind of feels small again? Where it becomes that everybody kind of knows everybody because you keep playing the same people. Or maybe people happened to join this game with lots of people they like. So clearly I'm a bit strange in how I can't tell Bell is town, or Enchant is going to leave anyway, or that Noraa tends to be a dominant voice? So I have some catching up to do in that sense.

But otherwise, coming back nothing much has changed really. It's still the same game, It seems like people still hunt by similar tells. I think I might be standing out somewhat but I was always a bit of an agent of chaos in my games, so idk if it's that or that I'm oldfashioned. Thankfully Andante did some of the chaotic stuff day one, so I didn't have to

It's fun playing with some new people and figuring out how they go about the game. And it's somewhat fun to relearn the (forum) game.

[Enchant]

After first ten pages of catch up this is where I'm at:

Town: Dunn, Andante, Mala
Not town: Everyone else

dunn because I said so, Andante I've stated clearly and Mala is more townlean but townlean isn't scum so.

RIP only 4 townies in game.

[Ginngie]

Im curious, do you scumread me because I'm advocating for my elimination? Does this also extend to Andante for wanting the same thing?

If you believe me to be scum, and Andante town, yet both slots advocate for their elimination, how would discern the two from one slot being town and the other slot being scum?


Honestly I actually dont know what your read is on Andante.

Mafia nightkill Andante, for my amusement!

Andante is mafia who didn't want to nk self

These posts are separated by 14 hours and Andante posted during that but truly you didn't give an explanation as to why.

At first you state that Andante is town because you believe Andante should be killed. Then your only real change of stance is the 2nd post.

What I noticed is that between the first post you expressed thinking Andante was town, Luke and Mala expressed scum reads, and your next post was expressing a scumread. What changed your mind about Andante? It just looks like you were sheeping the towns opinions to me.

[Enchant]

You doesh't advocate for my elim, you only supporting what is done by someone else.

[Malakittens]

Rereading I thought I had a slip on enchant, but Luke pushed for an answer & it’s no longer a slip.

Re: andante scum read on me for not picking FireB

[Malakittens]

Idk the more I read enchants iso the more I get scum vibes & the current posts are bad too

[mykonian]

you should push Enchant more often, it makes for good reading.