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Post Post #5250 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:44 am

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In post 5248, Mistyx wrote:
In post 5245, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 5241, Mistyx wrote:
VOTE: GuiltyLion

if we flip this then pooky/ceph are town
and we sort in the rest
In post 5244, Mistyx wrote:when i say 0-2 i mean
it's either GL/Pooky, GL/Ceph, or none of them
What? This isn't even internally consistent?
meant to say if this flips scum
That's how I was reading it.

"If GL flips scum, then pooky/ceph are town"

"GL is scum with pooky or ceph, or none of them are scum"
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Post Post #5251 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:57 am

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In post 5249, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 5247, Mistyx wrote:
In post 5246, Dwlee99 wrote:Why are Ceph and or Pooky only scum with GL?
scum wouldn't send scum!gl to a group of three town bombers

and scum!pooky/ceph would take the chance to justify an explosion on town!gl
What makes you so confident that pooky/ceph would explode gl if given the chance? Especially because they could set him up to be mislimmed later with this line of thought.
cuz then unless it's exactly pooky/ceph then they just send their other partner in and try to get to 3

it's not a lock but it feels more likely that way
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Post Post #5252 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:58 am

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I don't get it

you just said it's either GL/Pooky or GL/Ceph for the scum team but you're also saying that if GL flips scum then Pooky and Ceph r both town?
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Post Post #5253 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:58 am

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if gl flips town

not scum

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Post Post #5254 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:59 am

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ok if GL/Pooky/Ceph are all town who are your scumreads then
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Post Post #5255 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 12:56 pm

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In post 5227, Bell wrote:Sorry. I and Andate murdered Titus because i didn’t have time to sort.
Not really, you told titus to place bomb under hat and say reads before dying.
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Post Post #5256 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:01 pm

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Never mind that you had more posts than me and Andante combined, so claims like you didn't had time are outrageous.
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Post Post #5257 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:27 pm

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It's all relative enchant.
For me, when I want to be confident about something, I require a lot of time.
You can think of it as having a higher self-standard of what time is.
I just defaulted to the safe choice as a result.
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Post Post #5258 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:29 pm

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I'd agree with the "not having time" excuse seeming odd.. I saw no situation in which we should've kept Titus alive.. like what, keep her here just to yeet her today?? it's very odd for scum to just give us Titus like that, means the poe that's mostly agreed upon is likely wrong.. but I'm down with yeeting Mistyx today, also, Titus was very confident on Mistyx maf

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Post Post #5259 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:32 pm

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Did you scumread Titus?
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Post Post #5260 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:41 pm

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In post 5254, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:ok if GL/Pooky/Ceph are all town who are your scumreads then
csf/mena like i just said
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Post Post #5261 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:41 pm

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In post 5258, Andante wrote:I'd agree with the "not having time" excuse seeming odd.. I saw no situation in which we should've kept Titus alive.. like what, keep her here just to yeet her today?? it's very odd for scum to just give us Titus like that, means the poe that's mostly agreed upon is likely wrong.. but I'm down with yeeting Mistyx today, also,
Titus was very confident on Mistyx maf


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this is so incredibly far from true

titus wanted me dead for VCA that was all
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Post Post #5262 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:47 pm

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For me, having time means "reviewing every post this player makes from the beginning of the game with the iso of GL and Baltar included in it"
When you have one player to focus on.

Eh, Pooky knows what I mean. I don't think anyone else in this game would. Think of it as a personal idiosyncrasy.
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Post Post #5263 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:51 pm

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In post 5261, Mistyx wrote:
In post 5258, Andante wrote:I'd agree with the "not having time" excuse seeming odd.. I saw no situation in which we should've kept Titus alive.. like what, keep her here just to yeet her today?? it's very odd for scum to just give us Titus like that, means the poe that's mostly agreed upon is likely wrong.. but I'm down with yeeting Mistyx today, also,
Titus was very confident on Mistyx maf


VOTE: Mistyx
this is so incredibly far from true

titus wanted me dead for VCA that was all

No, Titus very much wanted you dead in neighborhood chat.
You were her top priority.
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Post Post #5264 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:56 pm

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In post 5261, Mistyx wrote:
In post 5258, Andante wrote:I'd agree with the "not having time" excuse seeming odd.. I saw no situation in which we should've kept Titus alive.. like what, keep her here just to yeet her today?? it's very odd for scum to just give us Titus like that, means the poe that's mostly agreed upon is likely wrong.. but I'm down with yeeting Mistyx today, also,
Titus was very confident on Mistyx maf


VOTE: Mistyx
this is so incredibly far from true

titus wanted me dead for VCA that was all
Hey... welcome to the pt last night... I am only maf if you are, and titus is 99% sure you are maf!!!

But I also just SR you in general so like it works,

like, town should think about this. maf threw titus in bomb pt cause scum know titus would go boom. why not giive us mistyx? scum was just going for a boom, and we all KNOW mist would go boom, but instead mist has been SRed all game and hasn't been defuser once, I do think this is scum indicative. it would be one think if scum was throwing TRs in to defuse the bomb, but they're not, I think scum is literally confirming Mistyx to be maf based on their defuser choices
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Post Post #5265 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:59 pm

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In post 5263, Bell wrote:
In post 5261, Mistyx wrote:
In post 5258, Andante wrote:I'd agree with the "not having time" excuse seeming odd.. I saw no situation in which we should've kept Titus alive.. like what, keep her here just to yeet her today?? it's very odd for scum to just give us Titus like that, means the poe that's mostly agreed upon is likely wrong.. but I'm down with yeeting Mistyx today, also,
Titus was very confident on Mistyx maf


VOTE: Mistyx
this is so incredibly far from true

titus wanted me dead for VCA that was all

No, Titus very much wanted you dead in neighborhood chat.
You were her top priority.
Yeah, and added Andante to be dead if you flip scum.
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Post Post #5266 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:08 pm

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Me?
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Post Post #5267 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:10 pm

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In post 5266, Bell wrote:Me?
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Post Post #5268 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:10 pm

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In post 2728, Datisi wrote:
final bomb squad is:

experts:
  • Bell
  • Mistyx
  • GuiltyLion
defuser:
  • VP Baltar
the information for the defuser and experts will be going out shortly. night 2 starts now and ends in
(expired on 2022-04-04 20:35:00)
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Can the expert PT from this night be summarized?
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #5269 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:12 pm

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In post 5268, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2728, Datisi wrote:
final bomb squad is:

experts:
  • Bell
  • Mistyx
  • GuiltyLion
defuser:
  • VP Baltar
the information for the defuser and experts will be going out shortly. night 2 starts now and ends in
(expired on 2022-04-04 20:35:00)
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Can the expert PT from this night be summarized?
It sucks
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Post Post #5270 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:12 pm

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In post 2187, Datisi wrote:
final bomb squads:

Andante, Greeting, Andresvmb, Frogsterking - group 1 bomb experts
catboi - group 1 bomb defuser

Menalque, PookyTheMagicalBear, Cat Scratch Fever, Cephrir - group 2 bomb experts
VP Baltar - group 2 bomb defuser

the information for the defusers and experts will be going out shortly. night 1 starts now, and ends in
(expired on 2022-03-31 21:15:00)
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Group 2 would also be useful to have summarized
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #5271 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:12 pm

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In post 5269, Enchant wrote:
In post 5268, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2728, Datisi wrote:
final bomb squad is:

experts:
  • Bell
  • Mistyx
  • GuiltyLion
defuser:
  • VP Baltar
the information for the defuser and experts will be going out shortly. night 2 starts now and ends in
(expired on 2022-04-04 20:35:00)
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Can the expert PT from this night be summarized?
It sucks
You weren't in it
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #5272 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:13 pm

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In post 5270, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2187, Datisi wrote:
final bomb squads:

Andante, Greeting, Andresvmb, Frogsterking - group 1 bomb experts
catboi - group 1 bomb defuser

Menalque, PookyTheMagicalBear, Cat Scratch Fever, Cephrir - group 2 bomb experts
VP Baltar - group 2 bomb defuser

the information for the defusers and experts will be going out shortly. night 1 starts now, and ends in
(expired on 2022-03-31 21:15:00)
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Group 2 would also be useful to have summarized
It also sucks
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Post Post #5273 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:38 pm

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summary would be somewhat difficult.

1. General comments made about Baltar flip, confusion, jokes, minor suspicions.
2. I summarize the worst case scenario (GL and Titus are scum).
3. Enchant is for letting Titus live. Andante and I are against.
4. Titus made argument that she was chosen to be killed by scum.
5. Titus says They think Misty and andante are the team.
6. andante foses enchant, misty and Titus as containing the scum team.
7. I start reviewing associatives and come up with that ceph, CSF, Andante, and Dwlee are probably town.
8. I commit and tell Titus I'm not going to let them live.
9. Titus switches to asking us to provide her reads to the thread. Misty first, Andante if Misty flips scum.
10. Andante and Titus argue back and forth about her scum read on Titus.
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Post Post #5274 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:43 pm

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N1 PT was 7 pages total

There was some initial talk about why Andres was an expert and catboi was the defuser. There was generally a good deal of talk about Andres since that was VPB's primary scumread.

Cephrir was lightly townreading VPB and leaned toward saving, but also his TR was not that strong so he was ultimately fine with either saving or blowing him up

I started doubting my scumread on VPB, since I liked his push on andres and I didn't think scum would put scum!VP as defuser.

pooky initially came in and was like VPB you're going to die
then reconsidered a bit after VPB started pushing an Andres/pooky team
I'd say he was the most reluctant to save VPB by a good deal

Mena came in last and said we should be defusing all bombs because this game is like SH (Secret Hitler, I'm assuming), and you can get some info by trying to defuse all bombs and see which ones succeed/fail.
He solved his part really fast.
I asked him if he knew about scum's 4 defuse alternate wincon after he already posted his solve and he claimed he didn't.

So Mena was first to post his solve, then Cephrir, me, pooky in that order.
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