KTaNE [game over!]

[Cat Scratch Fever]

pooky is... probably the only person I townread who's not advocating for misty over one of us. Maybe dwlee too, I can't remember. Bourbon is good.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Oh wait nvm, I misread your post.

[Andante]

lol I think I know where this is going, and I'll solve this right now, I hardclaim VT, I was trying to draw a night kill

[Andante]

sounds like I was pretty successful though!!!

[Andante]

Like, I want to say CSF was trying to be like "I jailkept andante yesterday... who is claiming report.." which actually makes me TR CSF... I could be super wrong, but that's what I was thinking, and like, with all these shenanigans right now, it's probably the time to be like "yeah so I'm just a vt..."

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Wait really?

Because if you're not invest, then there's been 0 invest flips so far, so maybe Mena's theory that Datisi stacked this game with protectives has some footing to it.

Also Mena claimed to have protected you yesterday, not me. I jailkept Mena yesterday.

[Andante]

I’m just a VT, not invest, and no one has claimed invest, I mean, Datisi has had a game with a town gs and 3 maf docs before…

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Wait really?

Because if you're not invest, then there's been 0 invest flips so far, so maybe Mena's theory that Datisi stacked this game with protectives has some footing to it.

Also Mena claimed to have protected you yesterday, not me. I jailkept Mena yesterday.

Eh no, Mena's read progression on VPB was very shaky, and I'm standing by the nominating defuser thing being suss

[Andante]

day 6 and NO ONE has a single report… I could see this being stacked with prot roles, and no invest, meaning maf was supposed to claim invest…
I did like the case made where only 4 people referred to nominating defusers, and so far 2 of those flipped maf…

[Andante]

YALL!! I THINK I DID GOOD!!! By me claiming invest as town, scum were too scared to cc it!! and now, I go “ha! I’m just VT” and it’s too late for scum…

I really think the best move here is to just yeet mist

[Dwlee99]

You faked a VT check on me? Wtf

[Andante]

You faked a VT check on me? Wtf

well I TRed you over VP and I figured all town left was VTs sooooo

i mean, it worked out did it not?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

okay, I think I believe Andante.

I jailkept Andante N4. The reason I didn't want to out my jailkeep targets earlier when Mena was asking was because Andante hinted that she vanilla copped dwlee N4. So I was like ???? how when I jailkept her? I was a bit suspicious of Andante because of that, but she was pretty townie by dayplay, so I thought it wasn't worth outing my role to 1v1 her, especially since I didn't want to derail the VP lim or out my role just yet to make me susceptible to possible NKs.

After VP's flip, I thought maybe scum had used their ascetizer ability on Andante. And rereading day 2, I got the impression that VP and Andante weren't aligned.

Now that Andante has claimed VT, I have no reason to not out my jailkeep targets.

N1: Frogsterking (lol)
N2: Bell
N3: Cephrir
N4: Andante
N5: Menalque

[Cat Scratch Fever]

AMA

[Cat Scratch Fever]

What's the VC on Misty? I might vote her.

[Bell]

What was with the strange matter fake clear? I thought you were claiming detective or tracker.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im really drunk and i dont understand why misty and mena havent surrendered yet

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

csf mvp

game over

lets wrap this up

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ROFL andante was just making everything up

w i l d

good shit

[Menalque]

lol I think I know where this is going, and I'll solve this right now, I hardclaim VT, I was trying to draw a night kill

jhc

[Menalque]

Andante

Lying about having a PR to draw the NK — eh, pretty fair, can work out decently

Lying about having results to influence the lim — not cool, liable to v often end in disaster and broadly disrespectful to your fellow players

[Menalque]

Okay, before we lim misty I wanna talk about pooky. Does anyone read him as town, if so why?

Here’s his basic trajectory re: Baltar
D1: v sus
N1: has the opportunity to kill Baltar, talks about doing it, then just kinda backs down and chills out and is happy to go along with it when the mood from the other three of us is more towards letting Baltar solve
D2: uh I don’t remember súper well but not worried about Baltar really i think?
N2: Baltar gets picked as defuser
D3: I say “we probably need to kill baltar to be safe” and pooky hard shoots that idea down, goes in to bat and provides reasons why Baltar probably isn’t scum and we should keep letting him defuse
N3: Andres dies
D4: pooky suggests VPB town and probably only scum if SM scum and he’s bussing, soft defending VPB and just going along with the maj take
EoD4: SM town
D5: mood of game clearly towards limming VPB, pooky reverses again and is now down for it

[Menalque]

Now, lets look at my rough trajectory and how it’s different

D1: not really engaged with VPB, neutral, looking elsewhere
N1: push to not have VPB killed due to general mechanics and SH inspo for setup (yes, this looks kinda bad)
D2: soften on Baltar — note in my PT tells me that I liked how cooperative he was on N1 and even as I was aware that wasn’t a good basis for a TR, slipped into it anyway as he continued to be reasonable and helpful fmpov
N2: baltar is defuser
D3: suggest we need to kill him, not because of a shift in my read but bc he’s been defuser twice and I feel like we can’t risk him being scum
N3: Andres dies, scum confirmed in dwlee/strange/VPB — decide to trust my reads (lol) where I don’t like how absent SM has been, dwlee soft angling against me, and decide to trust (lol) my positive feelings on Baltar
D4: defense baltar, back limming the other two
N4: SM has flipped town
D5: Baltar clearly the more popular lim — choose to stick to my read and defend him while going after dwlee, until he makes an awful fakeclaim that’s not believable with what he posted on N1

[Menalque]

Question for anyone thinking I’m scum: why do I tie myself to my buddy on D5 when he’s so clearly going down anyway? If I’m hard committing to this, and willing to fake a PR claim (which you must believe me willing to do bc you think that’s what I’m doing today) then why not claim yesterday and claim a result to help Baltar survive, if I’m already hard committing to him?

Why hammer him at end of day when it weakens my possible defense of “sorry was stuck in a bad tunnel on dwlee”/try to maintain consistency there?

For today for those saying I make sense as scum with misty — if that were the team, and I’d just seen myself get shit for trying to save my buddy baltar, why in fuck would I not be all guns blazing for misty today when it would be that team comp’s ONLY hope of winning?

[GuiltyLion]

Yooo guys I'm at a music festival this weekend so I am effectively V/LA until Monday, I'll have time to skim through and maybe post a lil bit in the late evenings or mornings but it won't be effortposting

I've skimmed through the thread and I have gathered CSF/Mena CC each other, Andante was totally making everything up lmao, and people wanna yeet Misty. I'm totally good with that and will vote Misty once we have an up to date VC and good experts picked

Also I think the CSF tinfoil case around scum collectively misunderstanding the setup is pretty good too lol

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