Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)

[bnuuy]

i'd also probably turbo lim mastina in a heartbeat at this point

why

[MonkeyMan576]

i'd also probably turbo lim mastina in a heartbeat at this point

I'm curious, why is that? I thought some of her reads seemed a little strange, but nothing that was clearly suspicious.

i think part of me doesn't want to believe she's a beloved princess but that might be outguessing the mod

my gut is wary of mastina because i've seen her as scum act similar

i think she's actually town but i just said that because i want to be wary

have you seen her fake claim beloved princess?

[Nashville Dreams]

@Monkey, Can you explain the reads on Well Done, MalcolmTucker and SwordsofDucks?

[Save The Dragons]

monkey why did you give a readslist when you did

Why not? It puts it on the record, people are going to respond to it, and it moves the game forward.

just curious

my take on this is you already have thread presence so you don't need to, as scum, produce a readslist for the hell of it

i think if you were scum your reads list would have been a little less sloppy

so i think you're town (also from other stuff) and i'm trying to figure out why people are scumreading you

[Nashville Dreams]

i'd also probably turbo lim mastina in a heartbeat at this point

I'm curious, why is that? I thought some of her reads seemed a little strange, but nothing that was clearly suspicious.

i think part of me doesn't want to believe she's a beloved princess but that might be outguessing the mod

my gut is wary of mastina because i've seen her as scum act similar

i think she's actually town but i just said that because i want to be wary

have you seen her fake claim beloved princess?

The only surprise I have is why it's not a mason claim. xD

[bnuuy]

monkey why did you give a readslist when you did

Why not? It puts it on the record, people are going to respond to it, and it moves the game forward.

ok so you're less active than I thought. Are you wanting me to scumread you?

That's not the issue here - if you're not aware how active a player is when making your list then your list clearly isn't as detailed or as coherent as you want it to appear to the rest of us.

It's an early read list. I'm not expecting it to be taken entirely seriously.

These ideas feel mildly contrary

[Save The Dragons]

i'd also probably turbo lim mastina in a heartbeat at this point

why

i'd also probably turbo lim mastina in a heartbeat at this point

I'm curious, why is that? I thought some of her reads seemed a little strange, but nothing that was clearly suspicious.

i think part of me doesn't want to believe she's a beloved princess but that might be outguessing the mod

my gut is wary of mastina because i've seen her as scum act similar

i think she's actually town but i just said that because i want to be wary

have you seen her fake claim beloved princess?

This is more of me echoing Well Done's concern that the mod might not put a beloved princess in to be randomized in this setup

[bnuuy]

Hm, I get what you’re saying. Don’t think it’s stellar reason to vote out mastina currently tho

[NorwegianboyEE]

my take on this is you already have thread presence so you don't need to, as scum, produce a readslist for the hell of it

i think if you were scum your reads list would have been a little less sloppy

so i think you're town (also from other stuff) and i'm trying to figure out why people are scumreading you

I'm not particularly scumreading Monkey. It seems to me like they wanted to write a reads list but fumbled a bit. That could come from a town perspective.

[MonkeyMan576]

@Monkey, Can you explain the reads on Well Done, MalcolmTucker and SwordsofDucks?

Well Done - active an engaged, agree with their posts for the most part.

MalcomTrucker - Not really active, but their posts seem like they are trying to sort a little.

SwordofDucks - low content posting.

[MonkeyMan576]

I could actually consider a SoD wagon.

[Save The Dragons]

Hm, I get what you’re saying. Don’t think it’s stellar reason to vote out mastina currently tho

i mean it's not like i'm voting her i was exaggerating a little

[Well Done]

severely not convinced by Well Done's case on menalque

Sad.

~~More of my thoughts on Mena~~

The context:
~Mena was sitting on the largest early wagon: catboi.
~There was another growing wagon on Monkey Man
~I was currently leaning town on CSF based on the meta check presented in 358.

So, I saw Mena jump off of the largest wagon without voicing any read on catboi, and then ignore the second largest wagon (monkey man), and vote someone I think is town without reason. This makes me curious., so I ask why.

I feel like the timeline is a bit important to my thoughts, so will include.
Original vote is at 6:51 est, presumably he just thought of why he wanted to vote CSF. I ask why immediately after at 6:57 est, he sees my question and posts without answering immediately after at 7:04 est.

He then posts again, still not answering, but instead deflecting into complaining about hydras instead. -- He then comes back to give an answer, an hour after asked. His answer:

Spoiler:

thanks!

I voted CSF for 3 reasons:

(1) I think malc's "oh god 11 pages already" thing is very slightly +scum, but CSF's "he seems like he wouldn't mind the legwork of reading 10 pages" reads as overjustification to me

(2) she didn't say hello to me

(3) *reserved for now*

Firstly, I don't see CSF's explination as a overjustification at all. It was a 2 sentence explenation for the read after being directly asked to explain the read.

Spoiler:

I don't see that at all from this exchange tbh

Spoiler:

VOTE: MalcolmTucker

why

Gut lol

from what?

barely posted, how do you have a gut read

ok maybe i can see it

but answer anyway i wanna hear your answer

From complaining about having to read

My impression of Malcolm is that he doesn't mind doing legwork like reading 10 pages

[/sp/oiler]

Secondly, if the true reason Mena voted CSF was because he saw the Malcom vote reasoning, and thought it was an overjustification, I don't think he would have dodged the question twice before answering.

Thirdly, the way he presented the read was in itself an over justification imo.

His reason for voting CSF, was

maybe

a throw away kind of reason that is good enough to vote someone pre page 5 when you don't have content to look at, but definitely not in the context of when he made it.

Moving his vote, but not being able to / being unwilling to say why when asked, trying to deflect the conversation away, and then finally coming back with a really flimsy reason being presented as a serious reason reads to me like it was a fake read that he was not expecting to be questioned on. Not one that he believed in as he cast the vote.

[Save The Dragons]

menalque how serious is your CSF vote

[Menalque]

dunn, you continue to astonish me with the amount of effort you put in, time and time again, to not understanding my play

[Menalque]

menalque how serious is your CSF vote

(not very)

[cassowary]

Can someone give me an update on what's happened while I was taking stupid mandatory testing?

My dude if you want to do well in this game you are going to need to start reading the thread and catching up on what you missed yourself.

Not a fan of the way monkey keeps jumping out and doing stuff and then immediately backtracking when accused. Was suspicious of him before and nothing he's done has really assuaged that. He also hasn't really been super responsive to a lot of clarifying questions and followup discussion. And I agree the timing / inconsistency around the reads list is weird. I guess I could say, it's not necessarily scum behavior, but it's odd

VOTE: Monkeyman576

Still don't get the 'complain about pagecount' read. There were like three people including me who said the same thing and it was an understandable reaction to logging in a few hours after the game started to see a double digit number of pages. I thought it was kinda jokey at the time but I'm a little surprised people are still legit considering it. I don't actually think CSF looks that suspicious, but well done's accusation of menalque in 460 seems like a reach.

[Klick]

i'd also probably turbo lim mastina in a heartbeat at this point

Thank you
My initial reaction to mastina's opener was 'well there's a scum' but then no one else seemed to think this

VOTE: mastina

[Klick]

i'd also probably turbo lim mastina in a heartbeat at this point

I'm curious, why is that? I thought some of her reads seemed a little strange, but nothing that was clearly suspicious.

i think part of me doesn't want to believe she's a beloved princess but that might be outguessing the mod

my gut is wary of mastina because i've seen her as scum act similar

i think she's actually town but i just said that because i want to be wary

oh

[Save The Dragons]

yeah bummer

maybe i changed my mind

VOTE: mastina

[butterchurn]

Is mastina the type of player to go for an attention-drawing gambit like claiming beloved princess as scum?

[Menalque]

Is mastina the type of player to go for an attention-drawing gambit like claiming beloved princess as scum?

oh wow, you really are new here huh

[Menalque]

let's see if I can find a thing

[butterchurn]

I've played a couple of games here but for the most part am new to this site and to the people on it, yes.

[Menalque]

don't worry about it, and I can't find any really egregious examples that quickly but yes, mastina is (in)famous for making very bold and outlandish claims in her first post(s)