KTaNE [game over!]

[Menalque]

you're trying and that's the important bit

[Menalque]

also fuckin' dad-eeeeeeeeee

[Bell]

You could arguably use it to identify town by seeing if nobody died that night.

Also, just a neat thought but what if you were a scum babysitter that could take someone with you if the town blew you up.

[Bell]

But it’s weaker, yeah.

[Bell]

Also, should we be holding off for mass claim or is now a good time to do that?

[Menalque]

You could arguably use it to identify town by seeing if nobody died that night.

Also, just a neat thought but what if you were a scum babysitter that could take someone with you if the town blew you up.

er, maybe? but I'll be honest, even with you saying that right here I'm still not sure how that would work

also, that is a neat thought! just sadly not a reality that we live in

***

kinda might as well, yeah

[Menalque]

prettttty sure everyone just claims vanilla from here though

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

uh, pooky, I've never conceded a game in my life when playing solo on mena -- I think I've agreed to concede for the sake of hydra partners once or twice. I'm also not sure I've talked about playing against wincon in the past, although I've certainly said that "I hope town loses" or stuff to that effect when very salty. do you have, uh, any receipts of me doing that, because it sounds a loooooot like you're just making shit up from here

the last time I played vs scum!you was Tarot and you basically told Gamma to concede afair

[Dwlee99]

I feel like the only person who would kill Cephrir here is Menalque. Does anyone have a refutation of that?

[Bell]

Dwlee99, pooky, enchant and I haven’t claimed.

Please claim In the following order:

Pooky/Enchant->Enchant/Pooky -> Dwlee99/Bell -> Bell/Dwlee99.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I claimed VT like 200 pages ago dude

[Bell]

I feel like the only person who would kill Cephrir here is Menalque. Does anyone have a refutation of that?

I don’t.

[Bell]

I claimed VT like 200 pages ago dude

Oh, I’m sorry ol’ chum.

[Dwlee99]

I claimed VT a billion pages ago as well

[Menalque]

uh, pooky, I've never conceded a game in my life when playing solo on mena -- I think I've agreed to concede for the sake of hydra partners once or twice. I'm also not sure I've talked about playing against wincon in the past, although I've certainly said that "I hope town loses" or stuff to that effect when very salty. do you have, uh, any receipts of me doing that, because it sounds a loooooot like you're just making shit up from here

the last time I played vs scum!you was Tarot and you basically told Gamma to concede afair

No, that was our slot who told Gamma to concede, and it was out of consideration for skitt because we were playing in a hydra.

I feel like the only person who would kill Cephrir here is Menalque. Does anyone have a refutation of that?

uh. whut lol

I mean I have the sarky refutation of "well clearly someone would because they did" but mostly I have no idea of what logic you're following to think that I and only I would kill ceph?

[Dwlee99]

Who is Cephrir threatening by being alive? His death feels like it can allow you to say "Cephrir townread me and died" and that's it

[Bell]

Too wifom for me, not to mention I don't usually read in that deeply to NKs.
I didn't even stop to think if Cephrir dying would hurt Mena's chances. So going that extra step wasn't even there.

[Dwlee99]

Mena said he wouldn't kill Cephrir

[Dwlee99]

Andy
Dwlee
Enchant
Bell

^ i feel good about all this being town


Mistyx, GL, Ceph, CSF <— this is the problematic section for me as it stands

\/ feel good abou this being scum

Pooky

im really obviously town and also like the only person defending you like dude

Cephrir has been killed night 6. he was a

DATS Inc. vanilla employee

.

Spoiler:

welcome,

Cephrir

! you are a

DATS Inc. vanilla employee

, a part of this game's uninformed majority.

role abilities:

~ you have no special abilities.

win conditions:

~ you win when all GB Inc. infiltrators are dead and at least one DATS Inc. employee is alive.
~ alternatively, you win when DATS Inc. employees act as successful bomb defusers 8 times.

the game thread is here. please confirm your role by replying to this pm with your role name.

the sun rises. it is now day 7.

yes, this is a kill I would make as scum

[Dwlee99]

It was his first defense on day start

[Menalque]

and if I'd killed you as scum then my defence would have been "that's way too blatant a kill for me to make, therefore I'm town"

if I were scum I could spin it either way, and yes, I have made kills on people who townread me before when I've been scum but generally speaking not when they are the only person who doesn't want me dead. I would have been about 500% better off if I were scum killing you, then appealing to reason to everyone else, and hoping that ceph would back me up

or do you disagree with that assessment?

[Menalque]

you're confbiasing so hard, dwlee

what do you expect town!me to do? go "that's a kill I'd make as scum" in response to seeing the ceph flip?

[Menalque]

I'm still not sure if anyone has said why they think pooky is town btw, or if anyone has said that

[Dwlee99]

I think anyone would have been better off killing me tbh, but the only one who really seems to benefit from killing Cephrir is you which is why I think it's an indicator for you. It's not just "What is the probability that menalque would kill cephrir as scum" it's "what is the probability that menalque is scum given cephrir got murdered"

[Menalque]

any scum that is not me distinctly benefits from you staying alive because they are aware that you are horrendously tunnelled on me

ceph was a broadly towny slot who I think only I was expressing any doubts about in the first place?