Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)

[Tracer Bullet]

now I have you here, would you mind answering the previous question about why you would expect catboi/me to be trying to kill each other?

Cuz you should be scumreading each other but you're doing this weird ass distancing/townreading schtick and it looks fake af.

[NorwegianboyEE]

this pissing contest is really unintersting

But it's entertaining.

[Tracer Bullet]

your townread of catboi makes absolutely no sense to me

[Tracer Bullet]

and he should've jumped you for it

but he didn't

so probly scum together

[Flavor Leaf]

my scum list currently is:

Catboi
Mena
Flavor Leaf

I had 3 other scumreads but I forgot them because shit for memory

This just looks like you’re paranoid of stronger scum players and/or just want to say you caught them.

you're not that good at scum sorry

Yet I have one of the, if not, the highest scum win % this site has ever seen with over 8+ scum game pool

From 2014-2018 only lost like 3 scum games.

cool story grandpa

Oo, a weak deflection tactic. Sign of insecurity and inexperience.

It’s doubly added upon because their form of trying to deflect was to call me a grandpa, which means they’re of the mindset that the older is inferior, however…

I’m only 27, and. 27 who’s still building towards going into that prime.

So yes, I am older than a good deal here, but with 8 years of the forum mafia experience.

You’re just outing yourself as taking weak tactics.

I was at that level once, ya know, 8 years ago.

you were a better player 8 years ago ngl

you're kind of washed up now

Lol, I’ve played like 6 games in the past 2 and a half years.

2 of those scum victories, 3 of those hard town solves. 1 of them I was only The Who had the correct reads as town, but others misfaded.


So stats prove other wise.

Don’t assume quantity over quality, kid

[Tracer Bullet]

Your style is more lone wolfy and you mostly demoralize your team to the point where they stop playing so I'm not really priotizing elimming you.

this uh

sounds like you have some problem with me beyond the game, because I don't really think I tend to do that to my scumteams at all

that was at flavor leaf

I’m the one that actively pushed pro teamwork and had an anti bus meta for 2+ years


Looks like you’ve seen 1 scum game, probably where I had an oldie as a partner, and assumed all my scum games are the same

I read your TM game where you blamed your team for being useless

[MonkeyMan576]

Flavor Leaf is actually a good scum player and it's a good reason to be weary of him.

[Wallflower]

and he should've jumped you for it

but he didn't

so probly scum together

Do you think Menalque's posting re: you having a problem with him was +town?

I agree that Catboi's play has been very ~off~, but I'm not as sure that they're scum together.

[NorwegianboyEE]

How to make Flavour Leaf engaged in the game:

Insinuate that he is lacking in the skills required to excel at playing as the scum alignment.

[Tracer Bullet]

Flavor Leaf is more interested in talking about how he's scum!god than actually catching scum in this game.

Therefore

Flavor Leaf is scum

[The Keeper]

My vote is not opportunistic. Less than 25% of all players are voting me at the moment, so there is no real pressure to speak of. If anything, given that I am more active than most, the fact that there aren't more people voting me and a lot of players think I am town says something. I like most of the points on MT so far and to me that seems the best place for a vote at the moment. If that changes I'll change my vote.

When you have 20 more posts than second place, you're definitely the most active player.
Doesn't mean you're any better than a Q0 item though.

[Wallflower]

Flavor Leaf is more interested in talking about how he's scum!god than actually catching scum in this game.

Therefore

Flavor Leaf is scum

I don't think this is alignment-indicative tbh

[Save The Dragons]

Flavor Leaf is more interested in talking about how he's scum!god than actually catching scum in this game.

Therefore

Flavor Leaf is scum

i feel like flavor leaf would do that as either alignment tho

[MonkeyMan576]

This is not alignment indicative.

[Wallflower]

lol

[Tracer Bullet]

and he should've jumped you for it

but he didn't

so probly scum together

Do you think Menalque's posting re: you having a problem with him was +town?

I agree that Catboi's play has been very ~off~, but I'm not as sure that they're scum together.

I don't townread any of his response posts and the fact that he still hasn't laid out why he townread catboi is very +++scum for him imo

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[Save The Dragons]

i feel like you should know that seeing you know so much about FL which is concerning

[Tracer Bullet]

Flavor Leaf is more interested in talking about how he's scum!god than actually catching scum in this game.

Therefore

Flavor Leaf is scum

i feel like flavor leaf would do that as either alignment tho

you literally just watched flavor leaf play that large normal where he was "solving" and killing townies left and right (as a townie)

[Menalque]

but Mena and FL are explicitly not-townreads.

oh, cool, could you expand pls?

What is there to expand on? I don't think anything you've done so far is particularly town-indicative. Do you disagree?

I mean, a bit, given that you and I have never played before

I think I'm being fairly pro-active about pushing the game forward so far having led/banded together support for not one but two wagons, and taken a hand in steering it away from boring-as-shit mechtalk

plus people who have never played with me before tend to townlean me at least when I'm being mostly clear about why I think what I think and not deliberately and arse-ily evasive so it was kinda weird to see you call me out as an "explicit non-townread"

That sort of stuff all seems like things you would do as scum in an effort to be read as town though?

I do want to make clear that even though I don't townread you, I have enjoyed your posts and I agree that it feels like you have had a positive impact on the gamestate. But I'm not really sure that you would play differently as scum.

I mean yeah, you're not wrong, I suppose I'm just not used to new(er) players taking that extra mental step to distance from what I would normally expect to be a desire to see me as town by now

as scum I'd be playing similarly yeah, I probably still have slightly lower WIM and willingness to post regularly, but I think that since my WIM as town has gone down the difference isn't so marked

also, glad to hear that you've enjoyed my posts either way!

[Flavor Leaf]

Your style is more lone wolfy and you mostly demoralize your team to the point where they stop playing so I'm not really priotizing elimming you.

this uh

sounds like you have some problem with me beyond the game, because I don't really think I tend to do that to my scumteams at all

that was at flavor leaf

I’m the one that actively pushed pro teamwork and had an anti bus meta for 2+ years


Looks like you’ve seen 1 scum game, probably where I had an oldie as a partner, and assumed all my scum games are the same

I read your TM game where you blamed your team for being useless

Exactly. One game.

DEB is one of my best friends IRL, so your context is lacking, and he actively chooses to not do anything.

And Status is from that oldie gen that has always been anti, and is a hard personality clash with me.

You're ability to read context is poor, and devalues your push.

This is me trying to actively help you push Catboi, and you don't even see that because you're too blinded right now.


Norwegian was in the game, and was one of the best 1v1's I've had in a while, and even they likely would say that was a scum team of 1.


You chose 1 game, a game in which I did well in, and assumed context from it based on your limited knowledge, and used it as a staple to judge all of my other scum games.

Mathblade just did the same thing, and got us super burned for it recently.

[Save The Dragons]

Flavor Leaf is more interested in talking about how he's scum!god than actually catching scum in this game.

Therefore

Flavor Leaf is scum

i feel like flavor leaf would do that as either alignment tho

you literally just watched flavor leaf play that large normal where he was "solving" and killing townies left and right (as a townie)

didn't he talk about being a god at the game in that game

i certainly remember something like that

[Tracer Bullet]

like maybe you weren't paying attention because you were a bulletproof traitor but Flavor leaf absolutely balled the fuck out of that game despite being wrong like on every push rofl

[MonkeyMan576]

My vote is not opportunistic. Less than 25% of all players are voting me at the moment, so there is no real pressure to speak of. If anything, given that I am more active than most, the fact that there aren't more people voting me and a lot of players think I am town says something. I like most of the points on MT so far and to me that seems the best place for a vote at the moment. If that changes I'll change my vote.

When you have 20 more posts than second place, you're definitely the most active player.
Doesn't mean you're any better than a Q0 item though.

Actually it does.

[Tracer Bullet]

Flavor Leaf is more interested in talking about how he's scum!god than actually catching scum in this game.

Therefore

Flavor Leaf is scum

i feel like flavor leaf would do that as either alignment tho

you literally just watched flavor leaf play that large normal where he was "solving" and killing townies left and right (as a townie)

didn't he talk about being a god at the game in that game

i certainly remember something like that

yea he did

but he also ENTHUIASTICALLY PUSHED TOWNIE ELIM AFTER TOWNIE ELIM

EVEN WHEN HE WAS TOWN AND COMPLETELY FUCKING WRONG HE WAS STILL HAPPILY PUSHING PEOPLE LEFT AND RIGHT.

Do you see any enthusiasm from the dude at all?

[Save The Dragons]

like maybe you weren't paying attention because you were a bulletproof traitor but Flavor leaf absolutely balled the fuck out of that game despite being wrong like on every push rofl

no i remember

but i don't see what this has to do with your point