Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)

[Nashville Dreams]

I'm starting to feel ill so I must question my reads from this morning.

Can someone briefly give me points where they feel I'm wrong besides catboi is too town to be town?

~Titus

[MonkeyMan576]

I'm starting to feel ill so I must question my reads from this morning.

Can someone briefly give me points where they feel I'm wrong besides catboi is too town to be town?

~Titus

You showed up late. You need to look at that bnuuy wagon.

[catboi]

To expand: I think catboi is scumhunting generally in 1208, using tactics that specifically don't work because this game is multiball. Catboi doesn't seem fully conscious of the fact that scum are trying to scumhunt in this game, and that's consistent with his lack of care to other aspects of the setup. I think this is a really weird mindset for catboi!scum to be in.

i think it's a mindset they're in because they're scum.

Catboi town would be more conscious of it.

Klick, if you're coming from a town perspective here, you're very aware of that tactic and whatnot, correct?

That's the difference here.

Catboi is not coming from that town pov here.

Not really? Last game the scum were mostly potatoes, didn't really try to scumhunt, made bad/shady pushes. Just because it's multiball doesn't mean you can't apply the same behavioral tells and wallflower's play to that point looked classically scummy

[cassowary]

god I'm so behind. I think next week hopefully I'll be able to keep up with this better :s

I don't super see the case on scum wallflower tbh

I'm finding it a lot easier to TR players in this game than SR them despite the high scum count between different teams.

Sameee. I think it's because scum can make genuine seeming pushes on people on the other scumteam which can make them look townier. Still trying to get the hang of it.

Quite frankly, there are 9 scum in the game so jumping on a few wagons is pro town and not pro scum.

I don't follow this logic at all. The issue is that a lot of your posts feel opportunistic like you're good with voting out whoever regardless of how you actually feel about them

I have received the heebie jeebies.

-snip-

This feels like such a specific reason.

And Flavor Leaf has presented it, which apparently not knowing who Tracer Bullet is. and presented as being based on exactly the posts of Tracer Bullet in this game.

While Catboi has presented it, while knowing exactly who Tracer Bullet was, and presented as being based on exactly the way in which Pooky has engaged with them in the past, in past games, on different alts.

I'm not sure this is heebies-worthy. I think it's a reasonable point to make that I honestly agree with, as someone without much prior context for this, iirc tracer was making a lot of points based around

how it would be if someone was scum

rather than making cases

that they were scum

(#957, #978, etc). At least that's how their posts read to me idk

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re Sword I think this reads like townie sword to me. I especially think if this is scum sword we have a good chance of being able to catch him out on something later. I don't think he is the type to try and pull a crazy early-claim gambit as scum.

I find the odds that SoD is VT to be very low, based on the first game role setup.

Odds anyone is anything are low, aren't they? This feels like trying to hide a push on someone widely townread using purely meta/setup-speculation-based reasoning as a front. If there

is

a VT in the setup at all,

someone's

got to be it. It's like accusing someone of lying about their birthday because there's only a 1/365 chance that would be their birthday, it's really halfassed reasoning.

... Okay, everyone else said the same thing afterwards. But, yeah, what they said. This feels like a lazy push on someone you're worried about becoming locktown.

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I’m sorry you’re feeling down bnuuy, you seem like a cool person

However even prior to drama I didn’t really see any solving in your ISO and that’s enough for me to kill you

If you’re town it would be very helpful to me if you could tell me who you think is scum and why

Not sure I see bnuuy's posts as super 'not engaged with the game,' they seem to be generally commenting on stuff and giving reads at the very least.

Like I could def see their iso coming from scum and I wouldn't be surprised if they were but they are far from the least engaged person here if that's the reason.

I'm pretty null on bnuuy overall I think for now, not sure they're my top suspect for today.

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Final thoughts:

Keeping my vote on monkey man for now. Too much weird continuing to happen for me to write it off as 'weird town', sorry.

Well Done has also been pinging me a bit just because they consistently seem to have the opposite opinion on stuff from me and I find that strange I guess.

I definitely think the multiball game is making it harder for me to get solid SRs on people especially day 1.

[bnuuy]

I have reason to believe Mastina and not SoD.

And that is?

[catboi]

That is a towny post from cassowary (and no, not because it's long).

[bnuuy]

I find the odds that SoD is VT to be very low, based on the first game role setup.

Ok, but that’s a dumb reason to suspect someone unless you also find them suspicious for other reasons.

His unwillingness to engage, and he seems to know more about playing the game than he is letting on.

you realize he's said he's played like 4 games before, right? I think you're pulling justification out of your ass here.

[MonkeyMan576]

I have reason to believe Mastina and not SoD.

And that is?

VT is a lot easier to fake than BP. Mastina has meta showing her early claming.

[MonkeyMan576]

I find the odds that SoD is VT to be very low, based on the first game role setup.

Ok, but that’s a dumb reason to suspect someone unless you also find them suspicious for other reasons.

His unwillingness to engage, and he seems to know more about playing the game than he is letting on.

you realize he's said he's played like 4 games before, right? I think you're pulling justification out of your ass here.

How many games before you can have a conversation with someone?

[Nashville Dreams]

I'm starting to feel ill so I must question my reads from this morning.

Can someone briefly give me points where they feel I'm wrong besides catboi is too town to be town?

~Titus

You showed up late. You need to look at that bnuuy wagon.

I will but I feel that it's another counter to catboi. That makes me think town before reading.

However, I am open to being wrong. It's also getting to the point where there are so many counters that catboi may need to be eliminated as catboi couldn't live until elo.

~Titus

[bnuuy]

me right now trying to save as many townies as i can

I get a bad vibe from this ngl

[catboi]

I'm starting to feel ill so I must question my reads from this morning.

Can someone briefly give me points where they feel I'm wrong besides catboi is too town to be town?

~Titus

You showed up late. You need to look at that bnuuy wagon.

I will but I feel that it's another counter to catboi. That makes me think town before reading.

However, I am open to being wrong. It's also getting to the point where there are so many counters that catboi may need to be eliminated as catboi couldn't live until elo.

~Titus

What

[Well Done]

I'm starting to feel ill so I must question my reads from this morning.

Can someone briefly give me points where they feel I'm wrong besides catboi is too town to be town?

~Titus

You showed up late. You need to look at that bnuuy wagon.

I will but I feel that it's another counter to catboi. That makes me think town before reading.

However, I am open to being wrong. It's also getting to the point where there are so many counters that catboi may need to be eliminated as catboi couldn't live until elo.

~Titus

Can you walk me through this post Titus?

You seem to be saying that it is yet another wagon designed to be a counter wagon to Catboi, but I thought you had catboi down as town. Do you think that scum are repeatedly setting up counterwagons on town!catboi? Or do you think that the counterwagons are coming from town? or?

[catboi]

I'm leaving now and have a long drive, so I want to say:

Enchant is in this game. Absolutely do not put me or anyone else at E-1 or he will hammer. If someone pushes for votes to get a wagon through it's a scumclaim.

[MonkeyMan576]

Good thing there's no rush to elim CB.

[catboi]

Good thing there's no rush to elim CB.

you know what? you're actually pretty funny.

[MonkeyMan576]

yeah my second job is a stand up comedian.

[Flavor Leaf]

I would've been primed to go the distance if he hadn't

re-evaluated

on me

right there.

Implying that Menalque has town read Catboi before, and had to re-evaluate.

So by Catboi's definition, Menalque has town read Catboi early, but reevaluated later in the game specifically, so this is NOT the same thing as Catboi pushing that Menalque has played with and should know both when theyve literally town read scum Catboi in almost this exact situation.

The way Catboi framed it is why Catboi is defending themselves (well, I might add) as scum, and not defending themselves as town.

[bnuuy]

I would like someone to make fan art where enchant is Not_Mafia’s child

this is a bit weirdChamp
why are you asking for what feels like fan art of real people

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm leaving now and have a long drive, so I want to say:

Enchant is in this game. Absolutely do not put me or anyone else at E-1 or he will hammer. If someone pushes for votes to get a wagon through it's a scumclaim.

OH MY GOD ENCHANT WE CAN QUICKHAMMER AT E-2

[Flavor Leaf]

Any other hammerers out here?

Make it an E-3?

[bnuuy]

Menalque can take the brunt and blame here if Bnuuy's town.

yeah nope I don't like this

[MonkeyMan576]

VOTE: Catboi

[Flavor Leaf]

Menalque can take the brunt and blame here if Bnuuy's town.

yeah nope I don't like this

Bunny, I saved your wagon.

You just dont like my ego, and I understand. I get it, that one's on me.

[cassowary]

I'm starting to feel ill so I must question my reads from this morning.

Can someone briefly give me points where they feel I'm wrong besides catboi is too town to be town?

~Titus

You showed up late. You need to look at that bnuuy wagon.

I will but I feel that it's another counter to catboi. That makes me think town before reading.

However, I am open to being wrong. It's also getting to the point where there are so many counters that catboi may need to be eliminated as catboi couldn't live until elo.

~Titus

i don't follow this at all, this feels like moon logic to me. why would 'there are a lot of counter wagons to catboi' mean 'we need to eliminate catboi at some point'? is that you're worried we're just getting distracted from catboi and not properly evaluating whether he's town or not? or... what?

I would like someone to make fan art where enchant is Not_Mafia’s child

this is a bit weirdChamp
why are you asking for what feels like fan art of real people

p sure it's a joke on the fact both players (apparently) habitually quickhammer for no reason

having played with not_mafia in one of my few previous MS games, I 100% believe this is a thing... but i will never be able to understand.